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Celereon 10-23-2013 03:03 PM

Single Strap Drive Pedal (Yamaha, Pearl)
 
Hi,

I'm looking to get a strap drive pedal - just for a secondary kit at home, so durability is not really a concern here. It's replacing this Millennium pedal (from Thomann) - very solid double chain pedal, but just doesn't feel responsive. I've played the Jojo Mayer PB but I don't think I can justify spending that much especially on what is essentially a practice pedal. I loved the feel though.

I'm thinking of maybe a Pearl Eliminator (I like the customisation, but I'm concerned it might be on the heavy side). I've also heard great things about the Yamaha FP8500B. I had considered the much cheaper Gibraltar 3311S but in reality I can afford these other two pedals and I don't want to settle for second best once again to end up dissatisfied and look for an upgrade a few months later.

Where I am, the Eliminator strap drive can be had for $175, the FP8500B for $165 and the Perfect Balance is >$350. The 3311S is only $85 but I'm not REALLY considering it for the reasons mentioned above.

I'll try to get out and try these myself of course but where I am, music stores are lacking, especially the Yamaha gear, short of making a >2 hour drive.

Which one would you recommend/what do you think is the better deal?

Cheers,
Cel

Dre25 10-23-2013 03:25 PM

Re: Single Strap Drive Pedal (Yamaha, Pearl)
 
Pearl eliminators are very light and top notch. The jojo is lighter again but personally I need more power from my pedal.

EarthRocker 10-23-2013 04:21 PM

Re: Single Strap Drive Pedal (Yamaha, Pearl)
 
I use a Yamaha 7210 strap drive pedal. You'll only find the chain drive on amazon, so you might want to call Musician's Friend, or whoever you're buying from, and ask if they have the strap drive version. I've used the pedal for about a year, and I worship it. I played on a Tama Speed Cobra for a long time, and when somebody stole it from my car, I needed a good replacement for a good bargain. My friend had the 7210 strap drive pedal for 30 bucks second hand, witch was a steal, considering it had never really been played. If mine ever breaks, I'll buy another one. Amazing pedals for the price.

drummerjims 10-23-2013 04:33 PM

Re: Single Strap Drive Pedal (Yamaha, Pearl)
 
The Yamaha FP8500B Is the way to go in my opinion. You can get it on interstate music for $95. I had the dw9000 which I had in double chain and strap drive mode and I wasn't really feeling it. Then I moved on to the pearl demon drive. Which was smooth but I hated it. So I sold it and bought the Yamaha FP8500B. I am someone who has played so many different pedals. Although I have not tried the JoJo Mayer pedal yet. And this is by far my favorite. It is quiet. The build is solid yet because it has no heavy base plate it is light weight. They actually sprayed some of that rubber wrench handle stuff on the rods that connect the base to the posts so it has a solid feel. Of course this is just my opinion but I do recommend it. For the price it is great and honestly I doubt I would ever go to a different pedal.

dmacc 10-23-2013 04:48 PM

Re: Single Strap Drive Pedal (Yamaha, Pearl)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drummerjims (Post 1192177)
The Yamaha FP8500B Is the way to go in my opinion. You can get it on interstate music for $95. I had the dw9000 which I had in double chain and strap drive mode and I wasn't really feeling it. Then I moved on to the pearl demon drive. Which was smooth but I hated it. So I sold it and bought the Yamaha FP8500B. I am someone who has played so many different pedals. Although I have not tried the JoJo Mayer pedal yet. And this is by far my favorite. It is quiet. The build is solid yet because it has no heavy base plate it is light weight. They actually sprayed some of that rubber wrench handle stuff on the rods that connect the base to the posts so it has a solid feel. Of course this is just my opinion but I do recommend it. For the price it is great and honestly I doubt I would ever go to a different pedal.

This in spades is what I would of suggested. Next to an old Gretsch Floating Action pedal, this thing absolutely is a beautiful pedal! Light, simple and smooth as silk.

wildbill 10-23-2013 09:51 PM

Re: Single Strap Drive Pedal (Yamaha, Pearl)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Celereon (Post 1192143)

...Where I am, the Eliminator strap drive can be had for $175, the FP8500B for $165 and the Perfect Balance is >$350...


Are you in the USA? Like drummerjims says, that Yamaha pedal can be had for a lot less.
I like it, but can't really say how it compares to the others.
If a 2 hour drive is too much, maybe you can find a place to get it from that has a good return policy.

JosephDAqui 10-23-2013 09:58 PM

Re: Single Strap Drive Pedal (Yamaha, Pearl)
 
The Yamaha is a really good pedal, especially for sliding. The beaters are light but pack a decent punch. You'll find it to be quite fast...

double_G 10-23-2013 10:34 PM

Re: Single Strap Drive Pedal (Yamaha, Pearl)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drummerjims (Post 1192177)
The Yamaha FP8500B Is the way to go in my opinion. You can get it on interstate music for $95. I had the dw9000 which I had in double chain and strap drive mode and I wasn't really feeling it. Then I moved on to the pearl demon drive. Which was smooth but I hated it. So I sold it and bought the Yamaha FP8500B. I am someone who has played so many different pedals. Although I have not tried the JoJo Mayer pedal yet. And this is by far my favorite. It is quiet. The build is solid yet because it has no heavy base plate it is light weight. They actually sprayed some of that rubber wrench handle stuff on the rods that connect the base to the posts so it has a solid feel. Of course this is just my opinion but I do recommend it. For the price it is great and honestly I doubt I would ever go to a different pedal.

agreed w/ Jims x 100. Yamaha FP8500B on of the best pedals i have bought in maybe 20 years. my progression went speed king (80s), yamaha 7 series (late 80s), dw (those first double pedals in late 80s). pearl double (late 90s?), pearl eliminator (hated it after a while, sold), dw 7000 (returned), dw 5000 (returned), dw 9000 (nice but too heavy, returned) then Yamaha FP8500B. light & fast. does ankle swivels no problem.

the same series (current) Yamaha hi-hat also UNBELIEVABLE.

Celereon 10-24-2013 01:50 AM

Re: Single Strap Drive Pedal (Yamaha, Pearl)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wildbill (Post 1192299)
Are you in the USA? Like drummerjims says, that Yamaha pedal can be had for a lot less.
I like it, but can't really say how it compares to the others.
If a 2 hour drive is too much, maybe you can find a place to get it from that has a good return policy.

I'm actually in Australia (I had it in my location but it must have disappeared, I think it's back now) - so prices are a little different. I think the Pearl is also a bit cheaper because its more well known so there's a bit more demand and sales (I just found it for $149). The 2 hour drive is to the nearest store that even stocks Yamaha, I'd have to make sure they had this pedal in store first.


double_G, do you mean the HS-850 hi hat stand?


I'm leaning towards the Yamaha right now, just emailing all the music stores in Australia to see if I can find a lower price. Is the Yamaha good because of the price, or is it just generally an excellent pedal? It's really looking like I won't be able to get it cheaper than the Eliminator so I'm wondering if that new information makes the Eliminator the better choice.

drummerjims 10-24-2013 05:07 PM

Re: Single Strap Drive Pedal (Yamaha, Pearl)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Celereon (Post 1192374)
I'm actually in Australia (I had it in my location but it must have disappeared, I think it's back now) - so prices are a little different. I think the Pearl is also a bit cheaper because its more well known so there's a bit more demand and sales (I just found it for $149). The 2 hour drive is to the nearest store that even stocks Yamaha, I'd have to make sure they had this pedal in store first.


double_G, do you mean the HS-850 hi hat stand?


I'm leaning towards the Yamaha right now, just emailing all the music stores in Australia to see if I can find a lower price. Is the Yamaha good because of the price, or is it just generally an excellent pedal? It's really looking like I won't be able to get it cheaper than the Eliminator so I'm wondering if that new information makes the Eliminator the better choice.

I think the Yamaha is just a great strap drive pedal in general. There seems to be a pretty average weight to the actual motion. its well made and very dynamic. I have always been a fan of strap drives and this is my favorite that I have played. However I have not tried the Eliminator so I can't speak for it. Who knows it may be better than the Yamaha but all I can do is give you info on the Yamaha.


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