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riquediz 09-15-2013 11:42 PM

Need advice on new heads - please help
 
Hey guys,

I'm a newbie on drums so bear with me! I need help on which heads i should get for my snare. I bought a clear emperor for the batter (which i don't know if it was the right decision) but now i need help on buying the resonant side. Should i buy a clear ambassador? if no, what should i get?




Thanks!

Winston_Wolf 09-16-2013 12:34 AM

Re: Need advice on new heads!!! Please Help!!!
 
I don't think there's anything truly wrong with putting a clear head on a snare, though it is uncommon. Most players use a coated head because it mellows out a few higher frequencies and gives a rough surface in case you're into playing with brushes.

Without knowing anything about your drum, your playing style, or the kinds of places you play your drums I'd suggest just keeping the clear Emperor until you're in need of a new head. It should suit you fine, and you can use the lifespan of this head to do some research into what type of head you might want to try next time.

A SNARE SIDE hazy Ambassador is pretty much the world standard for a bottom snare head, though that IS NOT the same as an Ambassador batter head.

bobdadruma 09-16-2013 01:45 AM

Re: Need advice on new heads!!! Please Help!!!
 
There is nothing wrong with a clear head as a snare batter. If that is the sound that you like then use it.
Use any manufacturers head that is labeled as a "Snare Bottom". These heads are thin so that the snare wires will react easily when the drum is struck.

porter 09-16-2013 01:53 AM

Re: Need advice on new heads!!! Please Help!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobdadruma (Post 1180717)
There is nothing wrong with a clear head as a snare batter. If that is the sound that you like then use it.
Use any manufacturers head that is labeled as a "Snare Bottom". These heads are thin so that the snare wires will react easily when the drum is struck.

Just to clarify- do you mean as a batter head or redo head? I agree about the reso head, but I'd recommend something thicker on the top. Clear heads are fine by me, I use one regularly.

bobdadruma 09-16-2013 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by porter (Post 1180720)
Just to clarify- do you mean as a batter head or redo head? I agree about the reso head, but I'd recommend something thicker on the top. Clear heads are fine by me, I use one regularly.

riquediz question asks what resonate head he should buy for his snare. He has already bought the clear batter head. I was answering his bottom head question. :)

porter 09-16-2013 02:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobdadruma (Post 1180732)
riquediz question asks what resonate head he should buy for his snare. He has already bought the clear batter head. I was answering his bottom head question. :)

This is why I shouldn't browse DW on my phone :)

Bo Eder 09-16-2013 03:21 AM

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Although I thought I read about someone who put a blackdot head for his snare side head and it sounded fine ;)

Sorry to add to the confusion - just stick with any "snare side" labeled head and you'll be fine.

riquediz 09-16-2013 04:56 AM

Re: Need advice on new heads!!! Please Help!!!
 
Would you guys reccomend this:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Remo-Weather...tem3cd5d66f17?

i'm planning to buy these not only for my snare but for the toms...

Midnite Zephyr 09-16-2013 05:14 AM

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Remo-Ambassa...item53fda833af

^^this is for your snare. For the toms I would recommend Genera resonates because of the Level 360 system or try these
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Remo-Drumhea...item3cd5e95bcc

riquediz 09-16-2013 06:15 AM

Re: Need advice on new heads!!! Please Help!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Midnite Zephyr (Post 1180779)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Remo-Ambassa...item53fda833af

^^this is for your snare. For the toms I would recommend Genera resonates because of the Level 360 system or try these
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Remo-Drumhea...item3cd5e95bcc

Thanks! i bought the snare one. Now i can sell the batter head for the snare and by a coated one. Which one do you think i should get?
A coated emperor? I had a coated head for the snare before, and i felt the difference between them. I like the coated better. So yeah, which one do you guys recommend?


This is the emperor i was saying: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Remo-Emperor...item53fda8086c

Midnite Zephyr 09-16-2013 06:58 AM

Re: Need advice on new heads!!! Please Help!!!
 
Yes, an Emperor is a good drum head. I use them on my toms. It really depends what you are looking for in your snare sound, being that you are new, you probably can start with that. There are plenty of drummers that like an Emperor snare batter. An Emperor is a doubly ply head, whereas Ambassadors are single ply. You can even consider an Ambassador X which is just as thick as an Emperor, but still a single ply head. Many drummers like the Controlled Sound heads (Black Dots) on their snare.

I've always used a coated Ambassador myself. They might wear out a little quicker, but I like the sound they give at high tuning. Lately though I've tried an Evans HD dry on my Gretsch snare, my Pork Pie BoB snare has an Aquarian Reverse dot Texture Coated batter, and my Acrolite has an Evans G1 Power Center Reverse Dot batter on it. I'm really liking that one.

It is your journey, man. A coated Emperor batter is as good a place to start as any. Go for it. Why not?

riquediz 09-16-2013 07:29 AM

Re: Need advice on new heads!!! Please Help!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Midnite Zephyr (Post 1180796)
Yes, an Emperor is a good drum head. I use them on my toms. It really depends what you are looking for in your snare sound, being that you are new, you probably can start with that. There are plenty of drummers that like an Emperor snare batter. An Emperor is a doubly ply head, whereas Ambassadors are single ply. You can even consider an Ambassador X which is just as thick as an Emperor, but still a single ply head. Many drummers like the Controlled Sound heads (Black Dots) on their snare.

I've always used a coated Ambassador myself. They might wear out a little quicker, but I like the sound they give at high tuning. Lately though I've tried an Evans HD dry on my Gretsch snare, my Pork Pie BoB snare has an Aquarian Reverse dot Texture Coated batter, and my Acrolite has an Evans G1 Power Center Reverse Dot batter on it. I'm really liking that one.

It is your journey, man. A coated Emperor batter is as good a place to start as any. Go for it. Why not?

Hold on, i wanna play songs from Nirvana, AC/DC, Soundgarden, etc. So should i buy a single ply or a double ply? I read an article and it said the most commonly used drumhead is the single ply. What do you think?

My snare: Yamaha Stage Custom Standard 14" Snare

Midnite Zephyr 09-16-2013 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by riquediz (Post 1180802)
Hold on, i wanna play songs from Nirvana, AC/DC, Soundgarden, etc. So should i buy a single ply or a double ply? I read an article and it said the most commonly used drumhead is the single ply. What do you think?

My snare: Yamaha Stage Custom Standard 14" Snare

Phil Rudd (AC/DC) http://www.evansdrumheads.com/EvArti...4-d96e808259df

Dave Grohl http://www.livenirvana.com/equipment/dave.php

Matt Cameron http://www.nowinvisibly.com/mcfp/mattdrum.html

I did your homework for you. Now it's for you to decide.

riquediz 09-16-2013 10:05 AM

Re: Need advice on new heads!!! Please Help!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Midnite Zephyr (Post 1180805)
Phil Rudd (AC/DC) http://www.evansdrumheads.com/EvArti...4-d96e808259df

Dave Grohl http://www.livenirvana.com/equipment/dave.php

Matt Cameron http://www.nowinvisibly.com/mcfp/mattdrum.html

I did your homework for you. Now it's for you to decide.

Arghh! so many haha! Well i just decided to play it safe and went with the emperors but thanks Midnite! you don't know how much you have helped me!

Again thanks man!

Midnite Zephyr 09-16-2013 02:28 PM

Re: Need advice on new heads - please help
 
No problem. Happy drumming!


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