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dbshorter 09-12-2013 02:12 AM

Heads for a vintage Ludwig kit
 
I recently got a '58 WFL Ludwig Super Classic kit. The toms came with Aquarian Response 2 heads on them that are at least 10 years old. I'm replacing the heads soon but I wanted to know if anyone had any advice on the best tom heads for that vintage Luddy feel. Should I go coated? I've heard coated heads are warmer, but I've just always played Evans G2 clear heads.

Pocket-full-of-gold 09-12-2013 02:16 AM

Re: Heads for a vintage Ludwig kit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dbshorter (Post 1179514)
anyone had any advice on the best tom heads for that vintage Luddy feel.

From a '58 vintage? Gotta be calf skin, no?

dbshorter 09-12-2013 02:23 AM

Re: Heads for a vintage Ludwig kit
 
Well, yes, I imagine if I wanted to stay true to the era I'd go with calfskin. But it's a player's kit and I'm going to be gigging with it, I want some heads that will hold up well.

Pocket-full-of-gold 09-12-2013 02:32 AM

Re: Heads for a vintage Ludwig kit
 
It was a joke.

Personally, I'd use a coated one or two ply head from my preferred head manufacturer (in your case it sounds like that'd be a G1 or G2). The coated option is pretty much all that was used on every kit from the late 50's when mylar heads first came into existance, through to the early 70's when clear heads started become far more popular. They'll definitely capture the look, feel and sound of the era.

But at the end of the day, a drum is a drum. Whether it's from '58, '78 or '08....use whatever head you feel gives you the sound you desire.

dbshorter 09-12-2013 02:57 AM

Re: Heads for a vintage Ludwig kit
 
I get it now. That did make me curious to look up calfskin heads though, and Earthtone makes some that sound amazing.

harryconway 09-12-2013 04:41 AM

Re: Heads for a vintage Ludwig kit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dbshorter (Post 1179514)
.... '58 WFL Ludwig Super Classic kit .... vintage Luddy feel. Should I go coated? I've heard coated heads are warmer, but I've just always played Evans G2 clear heads.

Coated will be warmer, yes. Coated G2 over G1, will give that "vintage" vibe. You can adjust from there.

willieboy_sf 09-14-2013 04:43 AM

Re: Heads for a vintage Ludwig kit
 
I would go with Aquarian Modern Vintage coated or Aquarian American Vintage coated, depending on how old the drums are. The American Vintage are for older drums. Both sound warm and are durable (the coating doesn't wear off quickly if you play with brushes).

dbshorter 09-14-2013 07:38 AM

Re: Heads for a vintage Ludwig kit
 
I'll have to check out the Aquarian vintage heads. For now I went with coated Evans G2's, and the drums sound AMAZING. Full and warm, just like I was hoping for.

Skulmoski 09-14-2013 10:42 AM

Re: Heads for a vintage Ludwig kit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dbshorter (Post 1179522)
I get it now. That did make me curious to look up calfskin heads though, and Earthtone makes some that sound amazing.

Love my Earthtones. And they are especially sweet sounding on the toms.

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ight=calf+skin

GJS

dbshorter 09-15-2013 07:09 AM

Re: Heads for a vintage Ludwig kit
 
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Originally Posted by Skulmoski (Post 1180251)
Love my Earthtones. And they are especially sweet sounding on the toms.

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ight=calf+skin

GJS

I definitely want to check those out. Especially for studio work, I feel like it would be near impossible to beat the sound of calfskin. And Earthtone isn't out of this world expensive either.

RickVandeven 10-08-2013 03:30 PM

Re: Heads for a vintage Ludwig kit
 
I have a mid 70's vintage set of Luddies, and I slapped a new set of coated Aquarian Super 2's on the toms this weekend. Best heads that I have tried on this drumset yet. I played a show in a midsize room Saturday without mics, and I had people come up to me after the show and compliment me on my drum sound. Just regular patrons, not drum geeks.

caddywumpus 10-08-2013 08:58 PM

Re: Heads for a vintage Ludwig kit
 
Coated Emperors or G2s for that "thumpy" vintage sound. Coated Ambassadors or G1s if you want them to "sing" more. Pinstripes if you want to hate your drum sound.

bromasi 10-08-2013 10:59 PM

Re: Heads for a vintage Ludwig kit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dbshorter (Post 1180235)
I'll have to check out the Aquarian vintage heads. For now I went with coated Evans G2's, and the drums sound AMAZING. Full and warm, just like I was hoping for.

Thats what I have on my 1960's ludwigs the new 360's sound great.

Mcxnarf 10-12-2013 04:12 AM

Re: Heads for a vintage Ludwig kit
 
Aquarian Modern Vintage Heads.....wow!

poika 11-01-2013 12:23 AM

Re: Heads for a vintage Ludwig kit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by caddywumpus (Post 1187470)
Pinstripes if you want to hate your drum sound.

Ouch.
Ain't nothing wrong with pinstripes, on some drums and in some situations they work wonders.

wizard sticks 11-04-2013 11:06 PM

Re: Heads for a vintage Ludwig kit
 
Coated ambassadors top and bottom. Simples!

JD7 11-06-2013 10:18 PM

Re: Heads for a vintage Ludwig kit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wizard sticks (Post 1195442)
Coated ambassadors top and bottom. Simples!

Yes, but the Vintage A on top over a regular coated Amb bottom sounds pretty sweet! To my ear its just in between a modern coated A and coated Emp.

FYI, in my drumming life as of late, applying a vintage A has been my answer to nearly every question. I had a 60s Supra that I never successfully brought to life, until I put a vintage A on it. Now its my go-to snare for every band I play with.

*On the toms if you want to look period-correct but don't love coated reso heads, I'd suggest a smooth white, video gloss, or your favorite brand of med/thin smooth white heads.

cg2112 11-07-2013 05:29 AM

Re: Heads for a vintage Ludwig kit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by poika (Post 1194503)
Ouch.
Ain't nothing wrong with pinstripes, on some drums and in some situations they work wonders.

I played nothing but Pinstripes on my 1964 Super Classic, I loved the sound.


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