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tamadrm 08-23-2013 11:17 PM

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I just read this this morning,Ben Affleck will play the Dark Knight in the upcoming Justice League movie with Superman in 2015

There are some who like his work in front of the camera,but to me.....Holy miscasting

I personally loved the trilogy with Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne/Batman.

I don't see Affleck even coming close to Bales intensity...or Batman voice.....

Steve B

CreeplyTuna 08-23-2013 11:51 PM

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Surely you missed the masterpiece that is Daredevil.

Reggae_Mangle 08-24-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CreeplyTuna (Post 1173601)
Surely you missed the masterpiece that is Daredevil.

Ahahahaha.

He didn't miss much :P

tamadrm 08-24-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CreeplyTuna (Post 1173601)
Surely you missed the masterpiece that is Daredevil.

I was ,unforuneatey exposed to it,which is why,I just can't see Afflack as the caped crusader.Mostly everything that makes a good superhero movie was ignored,in that rag.

The internet seem to agree with me,as thousands are chatting this up in the negative concerning this complete miscasting of a part.

I'm a fan of both Val Kilmer and Geroge Clooney,but they were just terrible as Batman.

Let the search go on.

Steve B

30Panther30 08-26-2013 01:10 AM

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I might catch some heat but there is no one that has played a good batman. A few of the guys did good Bruce Waynes but no one has done a good batman and Ben aflack is not about to start.
I've always believed that the role of batman and Bruce should be cast separately. All the two actors have to have in common is height and basic build. And chin. Just my ten cence. Although remember when word came out that ledger was playing joker and everyone was like "no way he's gonna suck" but he blew our minds, still has nothing on jack though, well I'm praying it's the same way with aflack.

MrInsanePolack 08-26-2013 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 30Panther30 (Post 1174173)
I might catch some heat but there is no one that has played a good batman. A few of the guys did good Bruce Waynes but no one has done a good batman and Ben aflack is not about to start.
I've always believed that the role of batman and Bruce should be cast separately. All the two actors have to have in common is height and basic build. And chin. Just my ten cence. Although remember when word came out that ledger was playing joker and everyone was like "no way he's gonna suck" but he blew our minds, still has nothing on jack though, well I'm praying it's the same way with aflack.

I thought Michael Keaton did a great job as Batman, and Bruce for that matter.

JustJames 08-26-2013 05:32 AM

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And may I be the first to say that Affleck couldn't do any *worse* than Bale?

Somebody had to say it.

What was with the stoopid I've-just-swallowed-a-handful-of-hot-gravel Bat-voice?

Anon La Ply 08-26-2013 05:59 AM

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James, I enjoy Christopher Bale's work ever since seeing the scope he brought to the lead villain role in American Psycho. Batman talks in a funny voice because he's damaged goods ... Gaga without the Lady ...

Ben A is like Sam Worthington and Eddie Murphy - their presence has no gravitas. Might as well hire Brendan Fraser if you're not going to go for depth (probably scared off real intensity by Heath's passing).

toddmc 08-26-2013 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 30Panther30 (Post 1174173)
Although remember when word came out that ledger was playing joker and everyone was like "no way he's gonna suck" but he blew our minds, still has nothing on jack though, well I'm praying it's the same way with aflack.

And here's what the interweb had to say about Mr Ledger playing the Joker when it was first announced (need some wine to wash those words down with)?
http://cheezburger.com/7756374528

Mad About Drums 08-26-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tamadrm (Post 1173595)
I just read this this morning,Ben Affleck will play the Dark Knight in the upcoming Justice League movie with Superman in 2015

There are some who like his work in front of the camera,but to me.....Holy miscasting

I personally loved the trilogy with Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne/Batman.

I don't see Affleck even coming close to Bales intensity...or Batman voice.....

Steve B

Well... Val Kilmer, Michael Keaton, Christian Bale or Ben Affleck, none of them can impersonate, behave and act like me, perhaps it's time I do a biography film about my life... at least it will be the real thing :)

tamadrm 08-26-2013 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JustJames (Post 1174219)
And may I be the first to say that Affleck couldn't do any *worse* than Bale?

Somebody had to say it.

What was with the stoopid I've-just-swallowed-a-handful-of-hot-gravel Bat-voice?

When watching all three Dark Knight movies,one of the character points was ,be something larger than just a man,and wear a disguise to protect thoase that matter to you.

Part of the mask/cowl/disguise,was the voice.How could he function as both Batman and Bruce Wayne,around people that know either one,without disguising his voice also?

One of the big downfalls of the Superman/Clark Kent "disguise"...eyeglasses...really?

Not so "stoopid",Bale is a gifted actor who elaborated on Keatons concept,of altering his voice while he was in his Batman persona........you should watch the first "Batman" from 1980.

As far as his performance as Bruce Wayne/Batman,he did an amazing job of,bringing to life,the duality and conflict of a very dark story.

So I must completly disagree with you assessment of Bales performance.I feel he was the best so far to don the cowl and cape.

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Originally Posted by Mad About Drums (Post 1174278)
Well... Val Kilmer, Michael Keaton, Christian Bale or Ben Affleck, none of them can impersonate, behave and act like me, perhaps it's time I do a biography film about my life... at least it will be the real thing :)

Coming to a theater near you.................summer 2015.............the Dark Knight returns,............Henri is....................BATMAN.....the caped drummer.:)

Steve B

tamadrm 08-26-2013 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Anon La Ply (Post 1174225)
James, I enjoy Christopher Bale's work ever since seeing the scope he brought to the lead villain role in American Psycho. Batman talks in a funny voice because he's damaged goods ... Gaga without the Lady ...

Ben A is like Sam Worthington and Eddie Murphy - their presence has no gravitas. Might as well hire Brendan Fraser if you're not going to go for depth (probably scared off real intensity by Heath's passing).

+1000 Grea.Bale brought an intensity to the role,of a conflicted soul,damaged and traumatized from childhood,and motivated to do what ordinary men can't do,when bound by a corrupt and all to inept system of justice.

Most tend to forget that , tragety befell the Bruce Wayne character as a boy.

Damaged goods indeed

Ben Afflacks presence, or more accurately,the lack of it,is about as exciting,as a piece of white bread and a glass of milk..

Steve B

Fur drummer 08-27-2013 12:45 AM

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Hey it could have been worse. Could have been Johnny Depp. Wonder how Robert Downey Jr would do as Batman..... Oh I'm just kidding.

Pocket-full-of-gold 08-27-2013 12:52 AM

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Loved the interpretation as presented in The Dark Knight movies. Thought Bale was the best Batman since Adam West!!

As for Val? He may have undersold Batman.......but has there ever been a better Doc Holiday? Now there's a role he completely owned.

Fur drummer 08-27-2013 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Pocket-full-of-gold (Post 1174498)
Loved the interpretation as presented in The Dark Knight movies. Thought Bale was the best Batman since Adam West!!

As for Val? He may have undersold Batman.......but has there ever been a better Doc Holiday? Now there's a role he completely owned.

I loved Adam West. One of my favorite TV shows as a kid.

30Panther30 08-27-2013 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by toddmc (Post 1174272)
And here's what the interweb had to say about Mr Ledger playing the Joker when it was first announced (need some wine to wash those words down with)?
http://cheezburger.com/7756374528

Maybe it's me being illiterate but is the part in quotations directed towards me? If so why? :)

FoolInTheRain 08-27-2013 01:01 AM

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Just when I started taking Batman seriously, Bale bounces.

Not looking forward to The Dahk Night.

Pocket-full-of-gold 08-27-2013 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Fur drummer (Post 1174501)
I loved Adam West. One of my favorite TV shows as a kid.

It had everything didn't it?.........including Julie Newmar!! Mmmmmm Julie Newmar.

Which in turn reminds me of Michelle Pfeiffer. Mmmmmm Michelle Pfeiffer. Has god ever created a more perfect speciman of beauty? And if he has, he sure as hell didn't put her in latex.

toddmc 08-27-2013 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 30Panther30 (Post 1174502)
Maybe it's me being illiterate but is the part in quotations directed towards me? If so why? :)

Time for yet another internet misunderstanding I guess : )
Nope, comment was directed towards the people who made those comments "back in the day" (hindsight is always 20/20 I guess)!

Reggae_Mangle 08-27-2013 12:01 PM

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I liked Keaton as Batman too. I couldn't stand either Clooney or Kilmer in the role, but that could be because of the director (Joel Schumacher), who tried to make the movies as kitschy and glitzy as possible.

Bale wasn't too bad and I thought the just concluded trilogy was not too shabby, with the one with the Joker standing out the most.

Kind of odd the Joker wasn't one of the criminals freed by Bane in part 3. Think he got the chair?

tamadrm 08-27-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocket-full-of-gold (Post 1174506)
It had everything didn't it?.........including Julie Newmar!! Mmmmmm Julie Newmar.

Which in turn reminds me of Michelle Pfeiffer. Mmmmmm Michelle Pfeiffer. Has god ever created a more perfect speciman of beauty? And if he has, he sure as hell didn't put her in latex.

Down boy.....roof,roof......Couldn't agree more.Lee Meriwether and Anne Hathaway ...filled....the costume,and role rather well also.

They can all scratch my post anyday.

The role of catwoman nearly went to Sean Young,instead of Michelle Pfeiffer.

Steve B

CCdrummer 08-27-2013 07:46 PM

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Well, ok, if not Ben Affleck (and I am not saying he was a good choice) then WHO?

tamadrm 08-27-2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by toddmc (Post 1174272)
And here's what the interweb had to say about Mr Ledger playing the Joker when it was first announced (need some wine to wash those words down with)?
http://cheezburger.com/7756374528

The people that thought Heath Ledger couldn't fill the Jokers shoes,could not have known of the true depth of his talent,nor that he was cast by Christopher Nolan,the mastermind behind the Batman trilogy.

Ben Affleck has yet to display those kind of acting chops,and nothing to date,indicates he has that kind of depth,......but ,we'll see.

Steve B

CCdrummer 08-27-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tamadrm (Post 1174738)
The people that thought Heath Ledger couldn't fill the Jokers shoes,could not have known of the true depth of his talent,nor that he was cast by Christopher Nolan,the mastermind behind the Batman trilogy.

Ben Affleck has yet to display those kind of acting chops,and nothing to date,indicates he has that kind of depth,......but ,we'll see.

Steve B

But what about Gigli? ; )

30Panther30 08-27-2013 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by toddmc (Post 1174577)
Time for yet another internet misunderstanding I guess : )
Nope, comment was directed towards the people who made those comments "back in the day" (hindsight is always 20/20 I guess)!

Ah ok. I figured that much but I wanted to make sure I wasn't stepping on your toes.

MrInsanePolack 08-28-2013 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CCdrummer (Post 1174737)
Well, ok, if not Ben Affleck (and I am not saying he was a good choice) then WHO?

Mark Wahlberg. His repertoire is fairly large, he is able to do most any type of roll from retarded comedy to serious and intense, and overall is a really good actor. Maybe we could splice an old movie of his with Batman, ladies and gentleman I give you The Boogie Knight!

Jeremy Bender 08-28-2013 01:39 AM

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On side note, the lead actor from "Breaking Bad" will play Lex Luthor in an upcoming Superman movie. http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/n...steel-20130826

Dr_Watso 08-28-2013 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Anon La Ply (Post 1174225)
James, I enjoy Christopher Bale's work ever since seeing the scope he brought to the lead villain role in American Psycho.

Did you see "Harsh Times"? Bale does good work in that one, too.

Pocket-full-of-gold 08-28-2013 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tamadrm (Post 1174733)
The role of catwoman nearly went to Sean Young,instead of Michelle Pfeiffer.

Definitely the right choice. Mind you, Pfeiffer cast as a bag lady would still be the right choice! :-)

Anon La Ply 08-28-2013 01:44 PM

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Didn't see Harsh Times, Doc. Will YT it.

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Originally Posted by Pocket-full-of-gold (Post 1174498)
Loved the interpretation as presented in The Dark Knight movies. Thought Bale was the best Batman since Adam West!!

Saw an old Batman episode yesterday. I think I like Adam West best after all.

I always thought of Batman as goofy and found it strange for all these "dark" and gloomy depictions crop up. They're entertaining but no matter how serious they try to be, they're still goofy.

A guy dresses up like a bat to fight crime. Nobody ever recognises him under the mask, despite his high profile. He has an arch enemy. The arch enemy has a theme. The Joker or The Penguin.

Goofy, all of it.

Come to think of it, Ben Affleck could work out ... and bring back the Kapow! captions.

Reggae_Mangle 08-28-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Anon La Ply (Post 1174988)
Didn't see Harsh Times, Doc. Will YT it.



Saw an old Batman episode yesterday. I think I like Adam West best after all.

I always thought of Batman as goofy and found it strange for all these "dark" and gloomy depictions crop up. They're entertaining but no matter how serious they try to be, they're still goofy.

A guy dresses up like a bat to fight crime. Nobody ever recognises him under the mask, despite his high profile. He has an arch enemy. The arch enemy has a theme. The Joker or The Penguin.

Goofy, all of it.

Come to think of it, Ben Affleck could work out ... and bring back the Kapow! captions.


True, but that was more for another time. Jumping over giant coins, sleeping next to Dick Grayson... The character has undergone a massive re-imagining since, fighting murderers and rapists. You should check out Batman Year One, one of the best graphic novels out there. Bats is seriously one creepy dude, one step away from the loony bill.

tamadrm 08-28-2013 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocket-full-of-gold (Post 1174498)
Loved the interpretation as presented in The Dark Knight movies. Thought Bale was the best Batman since Adam West!!

As for Val? He may have undersold Batman.......but has there ever been a better Doc Holiday? Now there's a role he completely owned.

"I'll be your little huckleberry."...Killmer was born to play that role.Dennis Quade was good ,but Val just killed it.

Steve B

Otto 08-28-2013 08:31 PM

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I was pulling for Jack Black...as long as he put on a couple pounds around the waist...and interpreted the role with plenty of dance.


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