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uniongoon 08-14-2013 03:55 PM

100 year old mahogany
 
Getting over the hump building this kit. It is I guess what we call a short stack kit. The wood is re purposed from a bed built pre 1920's which I scored for $20 at a yard sale. Oddly enough it belonged to a symphony drummer from Peterborough where the bed was originally built.

http://i49.tinypic.com/wlvg5u.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/34q46md.jpg

Sizes: 10X7 12X7.25 14X7.5 15X12 and the kick 20X17
I did not have enough of the antique mahogany for a kick, so I bought some African Mahogany which should mate quite well.

Kick on the lathe
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...rft2013026.jpg

I am inlaying a band of Olive Ash Burl on the toms, for the kick I am putting the burl into the hoops only. My first attempt at this, learning curve at work. No burl in hoops here, just the cut out, last pic shows one hoop taking shape with the burl inlay.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...naykick016.jpg

The toms also are outfitted with maple re-rings which I steam bent and installed. The edges are roughed in so far, outer round over, inner 45. One coat of danish oil applied here, the finish will evolve from here.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...rft2013017.jpg

The Old Hyde 08-14-2013 03:57 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
wow that is some nice work so far!! any thoughts yet on lugs?

uniongoon 08-14-2013 04:00 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Kit will be getting these arch lugs

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...naykick005.jpg

A little better close up of the 12

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...naykick015.jpg

The Old Hyde 08-14-2013 04:21 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Nice subtle lug choice, now, a sheet of black wrap and those are done!! haha what kind of oil finish are you going to use? boiled linseed?

uniongoon 08-14-2013 04:43 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
I think just a light clear with a hand polish, similar to what I did on this snare.

http://i48.tinypic.com/jl45ky.jpg

The Old Hyde 08-14-2013 04:50 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
That this is amazing looking. cant wait to see the completed project, good luck

double_G 08-14-2013 09:29 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
sick concept ! cannot wait to see the final product. love you man.

uniongoon 08-25-2013 03:36 AM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Plugging away at the kit. Have the bass drum hoops inlaid.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...rlhoops017.jpg

Kick, 20X17 1/2 done, steam bent the re-rings, need to cut the bearing edges, fine sand the inside and out.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...rlhoops031.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...rlhoops033.jpg

larryace 08-25-2013 05:47 AM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Wow, you go man. Gorgeous stuff. Are you keeping them or selling them?

bobdadruma 08-25-2013 06:04 AM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Stunning and beautiful.
I can't wait to see and hear the finished kit.
Great job.

TheBob 08-25-2013 06:21 AM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Amazing job, looking forward to seeing the updates to this thread!

keep it simple 08-25-2013 09:07 AM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
The inlay works really well on the hoops, & complements the bass drum beautifully :)

uniongoon 08-25-2013 02:13 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by keep it simple (Post 1173947)
The inlay works really well on the hoops, & complements the bass drum beautifully :)

My inlay skill is getting a little better with each drum, so I just went back, routed out the 14 and re did it. I too love the look of the hoops. I am getting anxious to play on this kit as well. I do have a drummer who has been hinting that he wants to buy this kit, he is the owner of the the burl snare posted above, he is a full time professional. That snare recently made it onto every track of his last album (he brought I think 8 or 9 others to the sessions) I am not sure I can come up with a price. I am afraid the time and materials that will be in the kit, I will want more than a Craviatto kit, and I know my inlay work is not up to Craviatto's level ---yet, so my conscience will force me to sell it for much less than what I feel it is worth, therefore I am leaning towards keeping it for my greedy self. But money talks, and I always need money.

keep it simple 08-25-2013 06:33 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uniongoon (Post 1173986)
I am afraid the time and materials that will be in the kit, I will want more than a Craviatto kit, and I know my inlay work is not up to Craviatto's level ---yet, so my conscience will force me to sell it for much less than what I feel it is worth, therefore I am leaning towards keeping it for my greedy self. But money talks, and I always need money.

For sure - if you added up your time, you'd be much better off flipping burgers!!!! Most players have absolutely no idea how long such a build takes, especially compared to layering up standard ply shells. I'm guessing the ratio exceeds 10:1!!!

My advice is to let the kit do the talking. If it really speaks to you personally, aside from the deserved pride in building it, then keep it. If it's just a very nice kit, let it be another one on your journey that helps build the next one. I've lost count of the number of drums we've sold way below cost, but they do their job, then it's time to move on :(

Deathmetalconga 09-09-2013 05:05 AM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
This is so badass, how you can just find some antique furniture and repurpose it to make insanely beautiful drums. I'm in awe.

opentune 09-09-2013 06:07 AM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
amazing work! the inlay must be quite difficult to learn.

am wondering, what is the thickness of these drum shells?

uniongoon 09-10-2013 04:53 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by opentune (Post 1178570)
amazing work! the inlay must be quite difficult to learn.

am wondering, what is the thickness of these drum shells?

The toms are about 5/16th thick, kick about 3/8-7/16 area. The re rings really allows the stave shell to go thin, which should let them resonate to the max. Had to finish up a couple furniture projects and clean the garage thoroughly so I can spray the finish. Cleaning the shop is a good 2 day job, which is now done, on with the build.

uniongoon 09-19-2013 03:50 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
I am on the home stretch now. I sprayed the kit with 6 or 7 coats of 2 part automotive urethane with a shot of flex agent to give the drum room to breathe with temperature changes. The bearing edges are 95% complete, roundover outer and a 45 inner. I masked the edges to keep them free of clear coat, they will get a final sand and a beeswax coat to finish them.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...G_00000081.jpg

I drilled all the lug holes using a homemade jig for consistency

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...G_00000087.jpg

And I inserted the custom vents. All that remains now is to wait a week or two for the urethane to cure, then I can wet sand 600 to 2000 grit and polish to remove the orange peel and have hopefully a finish like a calm peaceful lake. Then go spend a couple hundred bucks on new heads, assemble and PLAY!!!

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...G_00000098.jpg

The Old Hyde 09-19-2013 03:54 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
WOW, keeps getting better and better. this is going to look nice all set up!

bobdadruma 09-19-2013 11:45 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
WOW, what a beautiful kit you will have. If they sound even half as good as they look they will be wonderful.

thunderstruck 09-20-2013 12:19 AM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Beautiful work! You should very proud.

keep it simple 09-20-2013 12:29 AM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Coming along very nicely indeed :) I like the drilling jig too.

uniongoon 09-20-2013 01:43 AM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by keep it simple (Post 1182036)
Coming along very nicely indeed :) I like the drilling jig too.

Sometimes the simplest thing gets the job done. Who needs an automated 4 drill robot.

GRUNTERSDAD 09-20-2013 02:10 AM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Goon that is one of the nicest kits I have ever seen. Bravo

jodgey4 09-20-2013 05:51 AM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
I knew there was a reason I pinned this tab so I see it every time the internet is open :).

Arky 09-20-2013 06:48 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Discovered this thread just recently... What a stunning project you're having there!
Looks like great craftsmanship and a huge workload. Can't wait for the result and to learn whether you'll keep this shell set.

Bastille 09-20-2013 07:01 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Oh man... that is incredible. Something I could only dream of accomplishing. Way to go, dude!

MeltedUnicorns 09-21-2013 01:10 AM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
wow... those are beautiful..!

Dirtysticks 09-21-2013 04:02 AM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Those shells are absolutely gorgeous!

CreeplyTuna 09-21-2013 05:03 AM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Incredible work. That kit is gonna blow the pants off anyone who walks in the room. Thanks for sharing your project with us.

camcoman 09-21-2013 08:41 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Holy Carp!!! Sorry I'm late to the party. That is absolutely stunningly gorgeous, you should be very proud of your work, I wish I had those skills & that patience. Looking forward to seeing and hearing the completed build.

uniongoon 09-21-2013 09:04 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Big Thanks to everyone. My next post should be near the end of September and will be the complete kit with some video.

keep it simple 09-21-2013 09:44 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uniongoon (Post 1182596)
Big Thanks to everyone. My next post should be near the end of September and will be the complete kit with some video.

Looking forward to it, especially as your playing will do them justice :)

eclipseownzu 09-22-2013 03:47 AM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uniongoon (Post 1182596)
Big Thanks to everyone. My next post should be near the end of September and will be the complete kit with some video.

That's too long. I check this thread everyday looking for updates. Cant wait to see them completed.

uniongoon 10-02-2013 03:55 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
OK not quite there, but I did get one tom into the finished stage. It still needs to come apart one more time for a little lug adjustment and the tension rods are too long, so I was not able to tune it up yet. I wet sanded the shell with grits 600,800,1000,1500,2000 and 2500. Always seems weird taking sandpaper to a close to finished shell, but after the sanding and buffing with a couple stages of polish, the end result speaks for itself

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ished12017.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ished12018.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ished12019.jpg

Then a coat of Danish oil to the inside, and assemble using quality allen head fasteners

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ished12024.jpg

Loctite is used to help things stay tight
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ished12027.jpg

uniongoon 10-02-2013 03:58 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
d one drum assembled. Now repeat for the rest of the kit. Stay tuned video might be a few more days

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ished12029.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ished12030.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ished12031.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ished12032.jpg

The Old Hyde 10-02-2013 04:01 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
you sir, are a master woodworker! that drum is amazing looking. I don't even care how it sounds, that kit will be stunning~!

eclipseownzu 10-02-2013 04:50 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Quite possible the nicest set of drums I have ever seen!

Do you make custom drums to order, or is this a one off type thing? I will be in the market for a nice high quality kit in the next 6 months or so. I would love to talk about sending my business your way.

wsabol 10-02-2013 05:19 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Jesus, I think I've died and gone to drum heaven. That is the prettiest thing I've ever seen.

Trigger 10-02-2013 08:22 PM

Re: 100 year old mahogany
 
Woah. Thats looks really, really good.


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