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sween 08-02-2005 02:26 AM

Brann Dailor
 
Just started using the forum (although i have been reading with interest for a few months). I love loads of the drummers that have already been mentioned in this forum. Danny Carey, Bonham, John Theodore, Dave Grohl etc.(and loads that haven't, Ian paice, Matt Cameron, Brian Downey.) But one drummer who has really caught my attention recently is Brann Dailor (Mastadon). His chops and speed are incredible but where other metal drummers sacrifice feel and groove his are unreal. His use of ghost notes is superb and though you could argue he over plays it is what makes mastadon's music so exciting. He is a crazily creative drummer. Also a lot of other metal players could learn from him that use double kick drumming only when it feels right. I have seen him twice live and the stuff he nailed to a tee blew me away.
Sorry for being long winded but he is a great inspiration. Any thoughts.

CyclopseSlayer 08-02-2005 10:07 AM

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Brann is one of the most exciting drummers in heavy music out there right now. Leviathan is such and incredible album and it inspired me to start reading Moby-Dick.

He definitely is very tasteful with the double bass, he's got great grooves and mind blowing fills. He also writes a good deal of the material from what I understand. It's also great to see him talking up Prog guys like Phil Collins (well he used to be a prog drummer at least) and Bill Bruford. Hopefully a lot of new people will be turned on to guys like that.

I was stoked to see an interview and see that he's a really unique guy with a lot of character, "He's off in his own little world" as my friend Todd Hennig put it.

sween 08-02-2005 01:31 PM

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It is also interesting that along with some of the prog guys like phil collins and bill bruford he cites his main influences to be elvin jones and stevie wonder. It definitely shows in his feel and groove. For those on the forum who don't usually like metal drummers this guy is something different altogether. I recommend Leviathan to anyone but particularly drummers.

Limo Driver 09-18-2005 10:40 PM

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My favorite drummer. I signed up just to post in this thread haha. I might start drumming just because it's so interesting.... but I lack the discipline.

Doom 09-19-2005 01:09 AM

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I sometimes feel that he overplays but I really like Mastodon and I honestly think he should play that way. If he played in a simpler way it would change the music too much.
I guess theres no rule that overplaying is wrong.

Limo Driver 09-19-2005 03:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doom
I sometimes feel that he overplays but I really like Mastodon and I honestly think he should play that way. If he played in a simpler way it would change the music too much.
I guess theres no rule that overplaying is wrong.

That's funny, I think he's pretty tasteful. Maybe it's just because he pwns me too much for me to notice. @_@

Det_Nosnip 09-20-2005 07:25 AM

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He defintely overplays. Alot. I like Mastodon in small doses, but it gets old for me really quick. I feel like he's pretty repetitive in his fills, too...he has decent hands, though.

DoomGroove 10-30-2005 05:06 PM

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It would be overplaying if it wasn't their type of music, but his playing fits perfectly for the intensity that is Mastodon!

MetallicaItalian 12-16-2005 06:35 PM

Brann Dailor of Mastodon
 
Has anyone else heard this guy? Mastodon is a pretty good current metal band. If you're into metal you should deffinitely give their newest album, Leviathan, a listen. Brann Dailor is just ridiculous though. Probably one of the most fill-heavy drumming styles I've ever heard. He's a balast to listen to though and I think he deserves some credit. He's incredibly talented.

hateplow 12-16-2005 07:31 PM

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That guy is very unique sounding. His chops are great, and relies heavily on his snare for almost all his fills. Very powerful presence, they are an aptly named band.

thegreatdevastator 02-11-2006 09:39 PM

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Haha, I just read all these fill-heavy style comments and I had to laugh. He comes up with an absolute perfect drumming style for what the music demands. If you think mastodon is fill-heavy, check out the Today is the day album, "In the eyes of god" .Ridiculous. Brann and Bill from Mastodon played in Today is the day before hand. Check it out.

finnhiggins 02-11-2006 09:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Det_Nosnip
He defintely overplays. Alot. I like Mastodon in small doses, but it gets old for me really quick. I feel like he's pretty repetitive in his fills, too...he has decent hands, though.

To my ears he's not overplaying. He's playing a lot of notes, but typically that's either stuff that's duplicating parts going on in other instruments or playing very dense stuff at times when the other instruments are playing quite simply. If you dropped the simple sections back to more typical 4/4 grooves I suspect it would make the band as a whole sound a lot less nimble and a lot more like a high school metal band.

He's a strong player. I do like the snare heavy approach to metal too, it strikes me as a lot more sensible than the usual "trigger the hell out of your bass drum so you can hear it and play constant 16ths" approach. This stuff actually sounds like a drum kit, rather than a drum machine.

franklinj 02-11-2006 10:47 PM

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I think that he overplays, but idk. I think its part of Mastodons "sound." I picked up Remission a while ago too, and if you wnat to hear some of Branns craziest playing, cehck out workhorse. I cant even keep up with it when listening.

Anybody else notice on Blood and Thunder that Neil Fallon did the guest vocals? He sings the part:

Split your lungs with blood and thunder,
when you see the white whale!
Break your backs and crack your oars men,
if you wish to prevail.
This ivory leg is what propels me,
harpoons thrust in the sky.
Aim directly for his crooked brow,
and look him straight in the eye...

tambian89 02-13-2006 01:07 AM

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I completely agree with Franklinj. He does overplay his parts, as they are riddled with snare fills and rolls. I listened to the album Leviathan, and heard him keep a steady beat very rarely. Dailor attempts to bring in the progressive style of drumming like other metal and alternative drummers do, like Chris Adler and Danny Carey, but I do not think he performs this style as well as others. In my opinion, he should try sticking with the bassist and keeping a more steady beat. Everything seems to be played for no more than 20 seconds before there is another snare roll; What is the reason for this? Dave Lombardo got respect for his fills and double bassing, and so did Mike Portnoy (who I find juist as skilled as Lombardo), but they also knew when a steady beat was needed. Brann Dailor seems to almost be showing off.
- Marc

tambian89 02-13-2006 01:10 AM

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Finnhiggins:
I find Brann's bass drum to be just as clicky and trigger-sounding as most of the drummers of today.
- Marc

Mr. Bananagrabber 02-13-2006 04:50 AM

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i love this guy, he is definately excellent, and i agree about the drum sound, it is more natural sounding. He had great dynamics.

finnhiggins 02-13-2006 04:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tambian89
Finnhiggins:
I find Brann's bass drum to be just as clicky and trigger-sounding as most of the drummers of today.
- Marc

Really? I'm not hearing that, this could quite plausibly just be a thick head and compression. But either way, that's kind of beside the point. The point being that the bass drum is not being used in a way that the machine-like nature of the tone is made too obvious, most of the playing focus is on snare, toms and cymbals. The part construction is a lot more naturalistic, and the approach to recording just seems to reflect that.

Not that it sounds like Elvin Jones or anything, but it's still a step up from the likes of Fear Factory in this respect.

tambian89 02-14-2006 05:09 AM

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Finnhiggins:
I thought you were refering exclusively to the sound (sorry about that). Dailor has some sick chops, but I still feel he throws in too many fills, and his beats seem to be broken up by the fills, rather than complimented by them. He is a very good drummer-there is no doubting that, but I juist feel that in his case, "a little dab will do ya".
I like to think of fills like a person would think of speaking; Why say something in 15 words when you can say them in 5? In drumming, you should do the opposite: play something you play in 5 beats over 15 beats. Of course, drum fills require a lot of finesse, but knowing when brevity and longevity will suit the song best requires more skillty. In my opinion, spreading fills over a long period of time, in other words - playing a fill rarely but making it count each time - has a better effect than filling every 10 beats or so.

- Marc

groove-dude 03-07-2006 01:44 PM

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mastodon are very cool band they reinstilled my faith in modern metal,brann is a great drummer he never gets dull and his style totaly reminds me of mitch mitchel who also gets acused of over playing but i think the dudes awsome

math_metal_182 03-07-2006 05:53 PM

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The great thing about Dailor is that when he plays, the fills are like grooves, and the grooves are like fills. There is a seamless transition, which, as finns said, makes his playing sound more 'natrualistic' (however you spell that).

I liken grooves and fills to working and holiday-ing. Too many drummers posses a very 'work-man-like' approach to grooves; this is what puts the food on the table for them, and they just mechanically churn it out, careful not to upset the other musicians. Only in fills are they allowed the chance to shine, express their creativity, and so on, so the fills can be considered the holidays in this analogy.

However, you're allowed, what 1-2 weeks off a year? Why not enjoy your job as well as the holidays, if you see what I mean. It's cool to see drummers providing feel and creativity in their grooves as well as fills, keeping ALL of their playing fresh and inventive.

Mr. Bananagrabber 03-07-2006 06:12 PM

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I completely agree, I think that Dailors fills are so musical and fit the music so well that you never lose sense of the groove, if anything it really enhances it and gives the song an obvious flow, whilst still being technical and interesting.

Mr. Bananagrabber 03-07-2006 06:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tambian89
I completely agree with Franklinj. He does overplay his parts, as they are riddled with snare fills and rolls. I listened to the album Leviathan, and heard him keep a steady beat very rarely. Dailor attempts to bring in the progressive style of drumming like other metal and alternative drummers do, like Chris Adler and Danny Carey, but I do not think he performs this style as well as others. In my opinion, he should try sticking with the bassist and keeping a more steady beat. Everything seems to be played for no more than 20 seconds before there is another snare roll; What is the reason for this? Dave Lombardo got respect for his fills and double bassing, and so did Mike Portnoy (who I find juist as skilled as Lombardo), but they also knew when a steady beat was needed. Brann Dailor seems to almost be showing off.
- Marc

I just read this through again, are you suggesting that Adler is better than Dailor!!??
personally i can't see that at all, playing a "steady beat" is fine but Dailors style is so much more interesting and really adds to the music. For me adler rinses out the old china/ride over double bass pattern a bit too much. but hey thats standard metal for you i guess.

franklinj 03-07-2006 10:13 PM

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I found it funny how in an interview with MD, Dailor said that he needed to "tone it down" for the recordings and "play grooves instead of a whole bunch of fills" when recording. I dont here either.

burnthehero 03-08-2006 01:17 AM

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I am on a Brann Dailor kick right now! I started listening to Mastodon recently and I've totally become a huge fan of his style. He definitely goes overboard with the extended fills, but it still works. For instance, the song "Crusher Destroyer" is basically just one long drum fill, but it sounds awesome. His drums sound really good, too.

Mr. Bananagrabber 03-08-2006 01:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by franklinj
I found it funny how in an interview with MD, Dailor said that he needed to "tone it down" for the recordings and "play grooves instead of a whole bunch of fills" when recording. I dont here either.

Wow, this really makes me want to see them live.

franklinj 03-08-2006 03:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Bananagrabber
Wow, this really makes me want to see them live.

Man, I had the chance, but I heard about it the day AFTER IT HAPPENED!!!!

Argh. That pissed me off so much.

Edit: Same thing happened with CoB. Damn them lazy promoters.

hybridshooter 03-08-2006 07:41 AM

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Brann is by far my favorite drummer! I saw him with today is the day on the in the eyes of god tour. It was the absolute most amazing drum work I've ever seen. He does a ton of fills, but never goes off time. I think he feels the music more then any one and instead of sticking to a structured beat he just plays what he feels. He for sure has the ability to do it and I have nothing but respect for him.

melodeath 03-23-2006 12:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sween
Just started using the forum (although i have been reading with interest for a few months). I love loads of the drummers that have already been mentioned in this forum. Danny Carey, Bonham, John Theodore, Dave Grohl etc.(and loads that haven't, Ian paice, Matt Cameron, Brian Downey.) But one drummer who has really caught my attention recently is Brann Dailor (Mastadon). His chops and speed are incredible but where other metal drummers sacrifice feel and groove his are unreal. His use of ghost notes is superb and though you could argue he over plays it is what makes mastadon's music so exciting. He is a crazily creative drummer. Also a lot of other metal players could learn from him that use double kick drumming only when it feels right. I have seen him twice live and the stuff he nailed to a tee blew me away.
Sorry for being long winded but he is a great inspiration. Any thoughts.

Brann Dailor is one of the most amazing drummers I have ever heard! His beats are so original. I totally agree with you.

JDM 04-30-2006 05:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Limo Driver
That's funny, I think he's pretty tasteful. Maybe it's just because he pwns me too much for me to notice. @_@


theres no such thing as overplaying as far as im concerned

Bodom4life 07-25-2006 07:08 AM

Brann Dailor
 
What do you guys think about Brann Dailor from Mastodon? I love how he adds tons of fills and rolls right in the middle of guitar riffs. It adds a nice feel to the music. I havn't heard any other metal drummers who have that sort of style.

Doom 07-30-2006 08:16 PM

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Yeah, he fills alot but they come in and out all over the place and never lose their place. Thats something that really impresses me about him. He always is under control despite the chaos that seems to be going on.

lungfull 08-10-2006 04:18 PM

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brann is class....he's got his own style...yea its fill heavy buts thats just him!!

ya'll should check out the mastodon dvd thats out...ya get about 30 live tunes and boy he's fun to watch play!!!!

tox1n 09-26-2006 05:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sween
Just started using the forum (although i have been reading with interest for a few months). I love loads of the drummers that have already been mentioned in this forum. Danny Carey, Bonham, John Theodore, Dave Grohl etc.(and loads that haven't, Ian paice, Matt Cameron, Brian Downey.) But one drummer who has really caught my attention recently is Brann Dailor (Mastadon). His chops and speed are incredible but where other metal drummers sacrifice feel and groove his are unreal. His use of ghost notes is superb and though you could argue he over plays it is what makes mastadon's music so exciting. He is a crazily creative drummer. Also a lot of other metal players could learn from him that use double kick drumming only when it feels right. I have seen him twice live and the stuff he nailed to a tee blew me away.
Sorry for being long winded but he is a great inspiration. Any thoughts.

Brann Dailor is one guy(apart from chris adler and danny carey)whose playing can never go out of style!!!!INSANE

Dak 09-29-2006 06:31 AM

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I recently picked up Mastodon's new one, Blood Mountain. Anyone that's been saying that he lacks groove and feel...well, check it out, because this is Mastodon's grooviest album to date. Sure, he goes nuts in lots of parts on this one, but he's evolved with the band and has actually toned it down some. Any way you turn it, he's one of the most talented metal drummers working today.

TopCat 11-03-2006 01:17 PM

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Just recently got into Mastodon. Brann is out of this world! I certainly wouldn't call it overplaying - everything seems to fit. He's turned 'metal' drumming on it's head.

Mapex589 11-03-2006 02:52 PM

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Man....all this talk about Mastodon and Branns drumming. I think I'll go put on Blood Mountain!!

dreadnought2020 03-11-2007 10:57 PM

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Me and my band supported them for a show on December 1st 2005. They're amazing live, but Brann is ridiculously amazing. Watching him from the side of the stage was awesome, and I could see everything he was doing. It made me wanna cry.....
He's an awesome guy as well. Funny as hell. I have his autograph somewhere.....

Dean

chazgrohl 06-28-2007 01:20 PM

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the man brann, bloody amazin drummer and to look at him live he doing it so easy, its like, ah il just throw another fill her, here and here to sure why not

Mr. Pasquini 06-29-2007 06:02 AM

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This is me and Brann Dailor. He's my idol...

I was first row at the show. Great stuff!

chazgrohl 06-29-2007 10:49 AM

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ya bastard, sorry for the language but good stuff outa u, and for you


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