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drummerboyfitz 06-29-2013 12:20 AM

I Need Ludwig Help - Anyone?
 
I was recently gifted with a 1961 Ludwig Super Classic in Blue Oyster Pearl. Included were a set of vintage Zildjian hi-hats from '61 as well as a Supraphonic snare. I'm experiencing some confusion because the shell sizes are all correct for the kit but it is unusual in two aspects.

1. The tom mounting rail is located directly over the badge on the bass drum, instead of offset.

2. There is no lug/mount for the cymbal 'L' arm.

The shells are in near mint condition. There are no extra holes drilled in the shell or wrap. There are no filled holes in the wrap or shell. There is no indication that someone removed the items in question (or moved them). It looks like the cymbal mount was never on the shell. It looks like the tom mount has ALWAYS been where it is. My question is: What the heck do I have? Floor model? Prototype? Sales model? These are pre-serial number, keystone badge Ludwigs with a date of "APR 13 1961" stamped in red inside the bass drum shell. The interior of the toms are painted white. This kit is up to spec in every way with the exception of the tom mount and cymbal mount. Please help me identify this oddity!!!! Thank you!

drummerboyfitz 06-29-2013 12:21 AM

Re: I Need Ludwig Help - Anyone?
 
Also, the badge on the bass drum shell is dead center on top instead of being more forward (like it should be). ????? HELP ME PLEASE!!!

Drumolator 06-29-2013 11:44 PM

Re: I Need Ludwig Help - Anyone?
 
A picture is worth a thousand words. Peace and goodwill.

harryconway 06-30-2013 02:37 AM

Re: I Need Ludwig Help - Anyone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drummerboyfitz (Post 1156165)
1. The tom mounting rail is located directly over the badge on the bass drum, instead of offset.

2. There is no lug/mount for the cymbal 'L' arm.

Could well have been someone ordered that drum as a virgin. Added the consolette after the drum arrived. Placed it where he wanted it, as opposed to where the factory normally puts 'em. Check the Blue Note double bass kit. http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/ludw...sets_1960.html No tom mounts. The shell mounted cymbal holders are $6.50 each. So you save that, if you don't order it.
Quote:

Originally Posted by drummerboyfitz (Post 1156166)
Also, the badge on the bass drum shell is dead center on top instead of being more forward (like it should be). ????? HELP ME PLEASE!!!

And the badges are centered. It wasn't until 63/64 or so, that Ludwig started with the off-set vent hole. Closer to the reso on the kick ..... and more towards the batter head on the toms.


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