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Soupy 03-21-2013 03:04 AM

So, Remo UX heads are thin.
 
How thin? Roughly Diplomat thin. I just measured the thickness of a Mapex Remo UX head, the stock head from my 10" Mydentity tom. There's a small spot where the coating had chipped off, and since the head was due for a replacement, I sliced up the head and measured it with a cheap pair of digital calipers. The coated section measured .009 inches thick, and the section with the coating worn off was .0075-.008 inches thick. So 7.5 to 8 mil thick, about what a Diplomat is, and definitely less than the 10 mil an Abassador/G1 measures.

So it's no wonder those UX heads dent so easily. The UX heads on my toms and matching snare are chock full of dents in the middle; snare and rack toms the most, not really as much the floor toms. On the other hand, I just swapped out a 2+ year old real Remo Ambassador on my Acrolite, and that head was in great shape. Sure, it's dirty, and the coating was worn smooth in the middle, but not dented like the moon, and no chips in the coating. The only reason I had for replacing the head was that I wanted to switch to a G2 on that drum.

So yeah, stock heads suck. Boo to crappy heads on nice drums.

Now to ponder Evans or Aquarian...

porter 03-21-2013 05:17 AM

Re: So, Remo UX heads are thin.
 
I don't understand why companies request these garbage heads for their kits either. You'd think they'd want good heads more than saving a couple of bucks profit.

Don't disregard Remo just because they make these, though... so does Evans. Their actual heads are the same quality as the other guys.

ProZak 03-21-2013 05:27 AM

Re: So, Remo UX heads are thin.
 
I left my new Black Panther snare at a friends place a couple of months ago and within 4 days he had managed to dent the ux head it had about 5mm or more, completely taking the coating off the central inches. I replaced it with an Evans g1 and that's much better sounding, can't say I have let my friend rip at it though, so I can't speak for the difference in durability.

As for why they put them on their kits, cheaper, end of story. for example $999 is much more appealing than 1049, even though you'd be adding more $ for better/more durable heads.

larryace 03-21-2013 05:58 AM

Re: So, Remo UX heads are thin.
 
Do you mean the UT heads? Utter trash?

porter 03-21-2013 06:09 AM

Re: So, Remo UX heads are thin.
 
The UX and UT and whatever else aren't their *real* heads, you'd notice a marked quality difference with an Ambassador, G1, or really any head that's not made of bargain plastic.

I can't name any kits that are $999, though, and the $1000 line for pricing is an issue that I could see mattering if there were a lot of kits at that price.

Putting these crap heads on their drums is honestly something I find disrespectful to the customers who wouldn't know any better.

audiotech 03-21-2013 06:33 AM

Re: So, Remo UX heads are thin.
 
There are quite a few areas other than just the heads where manufacturers try to economize or "cheapen" in the construction of their beginners and intermediate kits. From the basic wood used in the shells to the hardware they install on the drums.

Evans also has their economy heads that are seen on many less expensive kits. I believe they say something like "heads made by Evans", talk about coatings that chip.

Dennis

porter 03-21-2013 07:11 AM

Re: So, Remo UX heads are thin.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by audiotech (Post 1120864)
There are quite a few areas other than just the heads where manufacturers try to economize or "cheapen" in the construction of their beginners and intermediate kits. From the basic wood used in the shells to the hardware they install on the drums.

I certainly understand that but heads are so easy to replace unlike lower-quality wood (especially on inner plies) and unlike hardware (really only an issue on really low-end whereas these heads propagate through even $1000+ kits).

larryace 03-21-2013 04:12 PM

Re: So, Remo UX heads are thin.
 
I'd rather that drum manufacturers leave the heads off and reduce the price, Either that or put good heads on straight away.

Anduin 03-21-2013 09:05 PM

Re: So, Remo UX heads are thin.
 
I bought a low-end Sonor kit a while back just because I wanted the cute little 16 inch kick drum. The kit came with UX heads, and they lasted for about 2 seconds of normal playing before they were just covered with dents. Absolute garbage.

Then again, it was a low-end kit. The shells are pretty good, and the mounting hardware seems okay, but the rims are thin junk metal, and the heads are absolutely unplayable in a real-world situation.

But I knew thereíd be areas of cheapness when I bought the kit. I mean, it was cheeeeeeeap!

I donít think you can even buy any UX heads around here, and thatís no surprise because, really, who would want them? But Iím fine with Sonor using them as stock heads on their low-end product. If youíre going to cheap out somewhere, stock heads are the best place to do it, because all heads are inherently disposable. (About those rims though...)


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