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AZStickman 03-11-2013 05:12 PM

Evans vs. Aquarian
 
Time to change Tom and snare heads on my kit and I wondered what your thoughts were on Evans Vs. Aquarian. I have narrowed my choices down based on the sound I am looking for to either;

Toms batter = Evans G2
Toms Reso = Evans G Plus Clear

Snare Batter = Evans Power Center Reverse Dot Coated or G2
Snare reso = Evans Clear 300

or

Toms batter = Aquarian Response 2 Black Coated
Toms Reso = Aquarian Response 2 Clear

Snare Batter = Aquarian High Velocity Black Coated
Snare Reso = Aquarian Classic Clear

Thanks for any responses....... Terry

jodgey4 03-11-2013 08:30 PM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
I am a huge Aquarian fan, the coating is probably the best out there, and they have a great warm sound. Make sure you get a Classic Clear Snare Side, and not the regular Classic Clear.
That all being said, Evans just came out with a new collar design that apparently makes tuning a breeze. I don't think you'll mess up either way.
Maybe you could buy one of each brand for a 12" drum or so, and try them both before you get a whole new set. It will only cost one head extra, and you'll be sure you get the sound you want.
Good luck.

AZStickman 03-11-2013 09:07 PM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
Jodgey4....
Thanks for the input..... I have been very impressed with the sound clips on the Aquarian site, The response 2 black coated are exactly the sound I am looking for, at least from the sound clip. I have yet to hear anyone say anything bad about these heads and I am leaning that way.....Terry

Terrence R 03-11-2013 09:52 PM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
Have you also considered the Aquarian Super 2 Tom heads? I think they are closer to the Evans G2's.

AZStickman 03-12-2013 12:44 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
Terrence....... I just listened to the Super 2 recording and it seems like they do have nice sound .... What reso heads would you recommend with them?..... Terry

porter 03-12-2013 12:55 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
Be sure to know that those recordings are processed through audio mixing and such, they aren't on your drums, and they aren't tuned how you tune- so it's not a good idea to just go by the recordings.

Anyways, the Super-2s are great all-purpose heads. What kind of sound are you looking for? Response-2s on the reso side of your toms will have a much different effect than G-Plus, I'll tell you that.

KarlCrafton 03-12-2013 01:13 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
Since both companies make quality heads, I'd say try both brands on your drums, with the way you tune to find the best match.
I'd do a top and bottom from each brand for one drum, and see what makes you say "that's it" right away.
That's not too much an investment.

The Evans collar change seems pretty cool, and their coating is nice and they hold their tone for a long time.
Aquarian recently changed their film, which seems to be more along the lines of what they initially had. They have literature about the new film being used.
I'm happy about a film change, because their initial film was a lot sturdier in my experience. The coating has always been great, but when they changed their film (back around 2000), heads which did NOT dent on me, were denting like crazy--within a 30-40 minute period of time. That was a bummer!
Other people have not had that issue with Aquarian, but dent Remo heads...and don't dent Remo heads at all (??!!).

Good luck with your testing!

AZStickman 03-12-2013 02:31 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
I'm looking for good attack, moderate sustain, and heads that will tune low well. I am very good at tuning. Even though the sound clips are mixed they still seem to have the same settings for each demo and provide a good comparison head to head. Although not necessarily brand to brand....... Thanks for the input guys....... Terry

porter 03-12-2013 02:37 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
I think any of Aquarian's tom models with a "power dot" will do well, especially their Performance IIs. You might want to look at Evans' Black Chrome heads as well- they have a wonderful low tone and actually aren't as metal!!!! as they're advertised.
Also, do what Karl suggested :)

GRUNTERSDAD 03-12-2013 02:45 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
Evans G2 coated over G1 clears. No further discussion needed.

zarrdoss 03-12-2013 03:53 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
Evans PCRD used to be my go to snare head now I use Aquarian Hi-Velocity or Hi-Energy. I still love the sound of Evans G2 over G1 clear on my toms though. But that is what works for me, I would suggest for anyone that likes Evans PCRD on their snare to try hi-velocity or hi energy on their snare.

Winston_Wolf 03-12-2013 05:01 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
I think overall both companies make great heads, so as long as you choose a model that suits your tuning and playing style, I doubt you'll go wrong with either one.

That said, I've recently begun switching over from Evans (which I've played for almost 15 years) to Aquarian because I've really liked the tone and durability of every head I've tried.

The Hi Velocity is an outstanding snare head. I just recently picked one up and I really like the sound.

I haven't seen anyone mention the Hi Performance snare side, but it is without a doubt my favorite snare side head. For me the extra laminated patches seem to add an extra bit of rigidity to the head that translates into crisper snare response.

As far as general construction goes the G2 and the Response 2 are the same; two 7-mil plies. The Super 2 is a 7-mil and a 5-mil, which should sound similar but perhaps a bit more open. I've not tried either one on my kit so I can't comment with any actual experience.

uniin 03-12-2013 05:04 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
ive tried both response 2 and super2... the super 2 has a bit more attack, where as i found the response 2 is a tad bit warmer - similar to an emporer or g2.

jodgey4 03-12-2013 07:37 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
I use the Super-2s on my kit. I got a Hi-Energy for a friend's Acrolite and I now love playing that snare. Great round, full sound, without high overtones. It's not as dry or dead or quiet like many other pre-muffled heads -- not to mention it's near indestructible. I would have recommended it to you earlier, but I thought you wanted black heads all around.
If you use the search bar, you can find lots of great threads about all of these heads. Also, there are videos on YouTube comparing many heads. I think the best thing to do would just to be to buy a few to try. What styles do you play?

AZStickman 03-12-2013 11:50 PM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
Lots of good info, thanks guys....... I play mostly classic Rock and Blues. But enjoy a little jazz and sit in on a country session every now and then........ Terry

porter 03-13-2013 01:39 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
Ah, alright, I figured more of a heavier rock 'n' roll thing given the criteria. I think the Super-2s would do really well, I have coated ones on my fairly dead kit and they sing like birds. If you're looking to cut down sustain a little bit but add some warmth to the sound you might try some coated resonant heads, I have Remo Ambassadors but Aquarian's Texture Coated and Evans's coated G1s are the same category.

Midnite Zephyr 12-07-2013 02:01 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
I'm torn, and I'm really interested in which head will win. I have my favorite Aquarian head (Texture Coated Reverse Dot) on one snare drum, and my favorite Evans head Coated G1 PCRD) on another snare drum. It may take awhile, but in the end, only one head will be left standing. The suspense is killing me.To be continued....

evans_69 12-09-2013 12:36 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GRUNTERSDAD (Post 1117527)
Evans G2 coated over G1 clears. No further discussion needed.

+1.... Tried everything else, although i do still use emperors every now and again.. I have so many heads and G2's are my favorite.

drum4fun27302 12-09-2013 01:34 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
If you do more classic rock blues and jazz , coated response 2 would be the ticket. And like others say , the high energy snare heads are awesome and nearly indestructible.

shemp 12-09-2013 01:54 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
Using a 12.9 Saturn, I've gone through many combinations in an effort to get that gut punching low tone...So far the winner to my ear is clear G2 over clear G1....but there is still more attack than I want

Clear G1 on bottom seems like my preference....going to try G12 on top and coated G2 and I suspect one of those will end the search.


Edit: after thinking there was too much attack on the clear G2, I came back to it the next day and found I was wrong....Clear G2 it is.

beyondbetrayal 12-10-2013 03:39 PM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
Personally i find Evans to be better quality and last longer. With the level 360 stuff out now the solidified that for me too..


Trial and error.. I tried so many combinations and configurations my head hurt when I got my new kit.

I am a huge fan of the EC2's with g1's (toms)

as for kick the emad is a great head with a ton of lows and a nice punch

and for my snare its genera dry hd... but the coated reverse is a good choice if you want a bit more tone and overtones

EDIT!!!
(Oh, may not be what you want for blues and jazz, although on my second jazz kit I
I'm rocking an emad and i love it)

Gojilove 12-10-2013 11:25 PM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
Might I suggest the Aquarian High-Performance snare side head?
I just picked one up, what a cool head.

Rhino66 12-12-2013 06:07 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
+1 on Evans heads for me too!
I used to use Aquarian often too, but over time I found Evans to be much more consistent in tone and manufacture. The Level 360 heads Ive tried have been well recieved and love the tones and response Im getting from them.
Plus (especially over the past year,) Ive had sooo many troubles with Aquarian Q/C , and their new film . theyre not what they used to be at all. Wish it wasnt that way but it has been for me and some others that I know too.

You mentioned the G2 heads for toms, and those are great all around 2 ply heads, they work well in many situations, coated and clear. Emad 2 is great on the kick, a very nice choice as well. Id go with Evans!

Southpaw99 12-12-2013 06:13 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
I've been using Response 2's for years, very warm...sound great.

Midnite Zephyr 07-15-2014 08:34 PM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
I'm amazed how much better the Performance II's sound inside rather than outside, but I think I would prefer Response 2's or Super 2's.

markdrum 08-06-2014 04:51 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
I've had great luck using the Aquarian Hi-Energy batter over a High-Performance snare side head on all of my brass drums. They just bring out the best in the drums. Especially the free floaters. I also just replaced the stock heads on a Pearl SSC 14 x 6" snare with an Aquarian coated black dot batter and a High-Performance snare side. The Pearl tuned up like a dream. I love Aquarians!

drum4fun27302 08-07-2014 01:28 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
I just put some super2's with a ring on the outside (just like the studio x)on my yamaha tour custom : sounds great , very punchy, short sustain and tunes perfectly.

drumming sort of person 08-07-2014 05:05 AM

Re: Evans vs. Aquarian
 
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