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PeteN 01-13-2013 06:23 PM

More Cowbell!
 
Hey guys....my band os doing a cover of Don't fear the reaper by BOC and was just wondering what your thoughts are on the best way to incorporate the cowbell since it was over dubbed on the original release.

Right now the only two things I can think of doing is.... handing a cowbell to my singer or using my new roland spd-sx to sequence a cowbell style metronome? I'm new to my Roland spd-sx and not really educated on the terminology yet.

jeffwj 01-13-2013 06:31 PM

Re: More Cowbell!
 
You can try one of these.

http://www.steveweissmusic.com/produ...ssion-hardware

Jeff

PeteN 01-13-2013 07:11 PM

Re: More Cowbell!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffwj (Post 1098035)

I have one of those...thought about using it and concluded it would complicate things with hi hat opening and closing phrases.

Dr_Watso 01-13-2013 07:33 PM

Re: More Cowbell!
 
Hire someone for the part.

http://wa1.cdn.3news.co.nz/3news/AM/.../cowbell11.jpg

Mad About Drums 01-13-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr_Watso (Post 1098056)
Hire someone for the part.

That's right :)
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Midnite Zephyr 01-13-2013 07:47 PM

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You beat me to it, Dr. Watso. Of course, you're comment is much better than anything I can come up with. Lol.

Bo Eder 01-13-2013 08:30 PM

Re: More Cowbell!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteN (Post 1098028)
Hey guys....my band os doing a cover of Don't fear the reaper by BOC and was just wondering what your thoughts are on the best way to incorporate the cowbell since it was over dubbed on the original release.

Right now the only two things I can think of doing is.... handing a cowbell to my singer or using my new roland spd-sx to sequence a cowbell style metronome? I'm new to my Roland spd-sx and not really educated on the terminology yet.

That part was dubbed? I thought Will Ferrel did it live? Am I wrong? Dang.....

;)

PeteN 01-14-2013 01:18 AM

Re: More Cowbell!
 
I'm happy you guys are enjoying this ;)

alparrott 01-14-2013 07:26 AM

Re: More Cowbell!
 
My serious response? Give the singer a cowbell. It'll get a response from the crowd, for sure.

Anon La Ply 01-14-2013 11:20 AM

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It's risky, though, Al. It ain't pretty when a singer with a cowbell goes out of synch.

Singers with good time and who listen well can earn The Cowbell Privilege. If not, then you're better off playing it yourself and sacrificing some of the hat work.

keep it simple 01-14-2013 11:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anon La Ply (Post 1098315)
It's risky, though, Al. It ain't pretty when a singer with a cowbell goes out of synch.

Absolutely! It's taken me a while to rebuff requests from our singer to use a tambourine. At least a tambourine has a degree of fudge factor built in, but a cowbell - you've got to be joking. Unless they nail it, it's going to be horrible.

PeteN 01-14-2013 02:07 PM

Re: More Cowbell!
 
Ok....no cowbell for singer, I'm left with the roland option

Jack Boyd 01-14-2013 05:50 PM

Re: More Cowbell!
 
How about playing the cowbell with your right hand, instead of (or in combination with) hats/ride?

FranticDrummer 01-14-2013 06:10 PM

Re: More Cowbell!
 
I'd rather play along with a pre-recorded cowbell audio track or use the roland.

Mad About Drums 01-14-2013 06:11 PM

Re: More Cowbell!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FranticDrummer (Post 1098404)
I'd rather play along with a pre-recorded cowbell audio track or use the roland.

Who's Roland ?

keep it simple 01-14-2013 06:18 PM

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Who's Roland ?

For the UK's over 40's ;)

Otto 01-14-2013 08:39 PM

Re: More Cowbell!
 
Left hand on cowbell quarter notes...

Right hand moves from HiHat to snare...with open/close to pick up the unison snare hi-hat strike via your left foot.

I dont believe that song has sixteenth note hi-hat work concurrent with the cowbell...but you can move your left hand back to the set for use betweeen the quarter notes for any flavoring you care to add.

I do kinda the same when covering "My Sacrifice" (CD version..not the blechy video/radio release version) from Creed in order to keep the snare quarter notes going in the section where they are pulsed...with my personal preference to place them out on a piccalo snare.

Take the time to work it up to being smooth and I bet you will find it a nifty tool.

PeteN 01-14-2013 10:14 PM

Re: More Cowbell!
 
there's a reason BOC's drummer does not try to play the cowbell himself

radman 01-15-2013 01:30 AM

Re: More Cowbell!
 
Just to emphasize the earlier comments, keep the singer unarmed.

And not to state the obvious, but if going with Roland, make sure you can hear "him"! :o)

radman

Pocket-full-of-gold 01-15-2013 01:36 AM

Re: More Cowbell!
 
How did the original drummer pull it off live? Is there an idea there that can be borrowed or adapted?

Anon La Ply 01-15-2013 01:55 AM

Re: More Cowbell!
 
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Originally Posted by Pocket-full-of-gold (Post 1098583)
How did the original drummer pull it off live? Is there an idea there that can be borrowed or adapted?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdXfkkyI1nQ

It needs MORE COWBELL ;-)

inneedofgrace 01-15-2013 02:47 AM

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I've had experience with singers botching tamborines. Percussion in the hands of someone without a sense of time are real weapons that can destroy a song!

New Tricks 01-15-2013 02:51 AM

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Use the SPD. It's like a built in click!

I use mine subtly in a few cases with a tamborine. I beleve I have the cowbell running somewhere too. Can't remember what song.


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