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GruntersDad 03-06-2018 07:37 PM

Keith Carlock new Gretsch
 
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Awaiting the unboxing of Keiths new Gretsch kit. Teased on Twitter

Groov-E 03-06-2018 08:21 PM

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Very nice !

3 bass drums for the same kit is quite a luxury. Well-deserved in this case !

At the other end of the spectrum, there is this publicity for either 3M or Uline with all the tape on the heads : https://youtu.be/_ZIGj5-FQAA

Great sounding drums, let them sing.

incrementalg 03-06-2018 08:24 PM

Re: Keith Carlock new Gretsch
 
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Originally Posted by GruntersDad (Post 1549836)
Awaiting the unboxing of Keiths new Gretsch kit. Teased on Twitter

Mike Johnston is also unboxing a new kit today according to his social media. Antique maple USA customs I think.

Keith has been playing Brooklyns so Im thinking this new set will be Brooklyns too?

incrementalg 03-06-2018 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Groov-E (Post 1549841)
Very nice !

3 bass drums for the same kit is quite a luxury. Well-deserved in this case !

At the other end of the spectrum, there is this publicity for either 3M or Uline with all the tape on the heads : https://youtu.be/_ZIGj5-FQAA

Great sounding drums, let them sing.

I saw that too. What's the point of spending a few grand on drums just to tape em up?

Dr_Watso 03-06-2018 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoIsTony? (Post 1549845)
wtf is the point of getting a beautiful Gretsch kit then suffocating it with tape and making them sound like cardboard boxes ?

seriously

you could have gone on Craigslist and bought a 1980s composite Tama Swingstar for $60 and gotten the exact same sound

moronic

Yea, that is really weird... Right out of the box on a video supposedly showing the new drums you're going to choke the life from them, like, completely? That's not even just a bit of damping.

I get it that in studio sometimes people are going for that sound and use tape to do so, but in this situation of unboxing and showcasing it's sort of mind-boggling.

Groov-E 03-06-2018 09:44 PM

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That unboxing promo is a good marketing idea.

There seems to be more excitement for the Broadkasters than the USA customs these days, what do you all make of that trend ?

Mongrel 03-06-2018 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoIsTony? (Post 1549845)
you could have gone on Craigslist and bought a 1980s composite Tama Swingstar for $60 and gotten the exact same sound

moronic

Ahhhh.....NO....

Even with twice that tape the Tamas wouldn't sound THAT bad!

😜

evilg99 03-06-2018 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Groov-E (Post 1549855)
That unboxing promo is a good marketing idea.

There seems to be more excitement for the Broadkasters than the USA customs these days, what do you all make of that trend ?

I had a new Broadcaster kit and sold them them so that I could buy a USA Custom kit. I loved the Broadkaster bass drum and snare drum, but much prefer the 'singing' beautiful tone of the USA toms. They are just right. I found the Broadkaster toms to have much shorter notes....the bearing edges are really rounded over. For me, the BK's go too far in the vintage direction.

As luck would have it, after I bought my 12/14/18 USA kit in Millennium Curly Maple from Steve Maxwells, I found a great used 20" Broadkaster satin maple bass drum - and it is an awesome option for this kit.

You know, as much as I dearly love Ash Soan's playing , I have to say, his tone is very much along the lines of that same ^^^ super muffled sound. I don't get it.
Keith Carlock's tone and is the literal opposite of that. He will play whatever is in those boxes wide open, no muffling, usually with single ply heads. It's awesome.

Roadydad 03-07-2018 03:06 AM

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Evilg99, I believe I just bought your Broadkaster kit from Dave's in Ottawa.

Groov-E 03-07-2018 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Roadydad (Post 1549892)
Evilg99, I believe I just bought your Broadkaster kit from Dave's in Ottawa.

...if you ever sell that kit, hit me up.

This one stays in the family !

Tamaefx 03-07-2018 08:39 AM

Re: Keith Carlock new Gretsch
 
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Originally Posted by Groov-E (Post 1549841)
Very nice !

3 bass drums for the same kit is quite a luxury. Well-deserved in this case !

At the other end of the spectrum, there is this publicity for either 3M or Uline with all the tape on the heads : https://youtu.be/_ZIGj5-FQAA

Great sounding drums, let them sing.

silly thing to muffle that much such a nice kit ; this is how a drumkit should sound : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRiGmfIgpck

Rattlin' Bones 03-07-2018 02:19 PM

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A lot of basic snare/hat/kick I could tell nothing about how the toms sound. Typical flaw in most demos is 99% of it is snare/kick/cymbals.

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Originally Posted by Tamaefx (Post 1549910)
silly thing to muffle that much such a nice kit ; this is how a drumkit should sound : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRiGmfIgpck


Rattlin' Bones 03-07-2018 02:22 PM

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Oh my there is literally no musical sound coming out of those toms. Might as well be playing cardboard boxes than that beautiful kit. What a waste.

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Originally Posted by incrementalg (Post 1549843)
I saw that too. What's the point of spending a few grand on drums just to tape em up?


evilg99 03-07-2018 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadydad (Post 1549892)
Evilg99, I believe I just bought your Broadkaster kit from Dave's in Ottawa.

No way! Congrats! Yes, that was my kit for sure...I have been having mixed feelings about selling them...not that I find the USA drums lacking in any way, it's just that I'm turning into an absolute Gretsch junkie. I want them ALL.

Just so you know a little more history of those drums....I bought them from Chicago Music Exchange...they purchased them directly from Gretsch after the NAMM 2016 show....at 3:10 into this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B89jI-zJJHg

Enjoy the drums!

Neal

Push pull stroke 03-07-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rattlin' Bones (Post 1549925)
. Typical flaw in most demos is 99% of it is snare/kick/cymbals.

Youíd think the players would realize that problem from watching demos and then avoid the same mistake, but....I guess theyíre just addicted to showing off their chops. Or maybe they think that the intended audience for the demo isnít smart enough to know better? I donít know, but Iíve definitely noticed the same thing.

Roadydad 03-07-2018 06:15 PM

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Evil99 I PMed you.

GroovE, when I go 6 feet down, they're coming along for the ride.

I have been searching for the Carlock unboxing on youtube, but no joy. What site is it on, or has it even happened yet ?

TK-421 03-07-2018 06:35 PM

Re: Keith Carlock new Gretsch
 
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Originally Posted by evilg99 (Post 1549933)
Just so you know a little more history of those drums....I bought them from Chicago Music Exchange...they purchased them directly from Gretsch after the NAMM 2016 show....at 3:10 into this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B89jI-zJJHg

Turns out I hit those toms a few times at 2016 NAMM. I bet if you looked super closely at the rack tom head when you first got it, you would have seen a tiny little stick mark from me :)

Roadydad 03-07-2018 09:29 PM

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I believe I found your stick mark. 7 A ?

Bo Eder 03-07-2018 10:07 PM

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I do like Gretsch's "unboxing" campaign. Although I think the only one I saw where the guy wasn't all that excited about it was Steve Ferrone. He was cool, but it wasn't the Vinnie Colaiuta geeking-out cool. Steve is too cool. He even says he has somebody else tune his drums, and he just likes to play, so I can see him thinking, "My tech has to get these first to make them playable".

But then again, his video was made before Tom Petty passed. I wonder what Steve's doing now'?

Groov-E 03-08-2018 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Roadydad (Post 1549950)
Evil99

GroovE, when I go 6 feet down, they're coming along for the ride.

And leave your estate to manage this pharaonic fantasy ?

Those poor grieving souls.

I'll take over their burden when the time comes. Would you be so kind to advise 30 days prior for my convenience? I am trying to be reasonable here.

:-/

opentune 03-08-2018 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo Eder (Post 1549996)

But then again, his video was made before Tom Petty passed. I wonder what Steve's doing now'?

Answering the phone for the next gig.

mmulcahy1 03-08-2018 01:48 AM

Re: Keith Carlock new Gretsch
 
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Originally Posted by incrementalg (Post 1549843)
What's the point of spending a few grand on drums just to tape em up?

The guy probably has an adhesive tape endorsement.

evilg99 03-08-2018 05:10 AM

Re: Keith Carlock new Gretsch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Groov-E (Post 1549894)
...if you ever sell that kit, hit me up.

This one stays in the family !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadydad (Post 1549950)
Evil99 I PMed you.

GroovE, when I go 6 feet down, they're coming along for the ride.

I have been searching for the Carlock unboxing on youtube, but no joy. What site is it on, or has it even happened yet ?

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Originally Posted by TK-421 (Post 1549956)
Turns out I hit those toms a few times at 2016 NAMM. I bet if you looked super closely at the rack tom head when you first got it, you would have seen a tiny little stick mark from me :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groov-E (Post 1550021)
And leave your estate to manage this pharaonic fantasy ?

Those poor grieving souls.

I'll take over their burden when the time comes. Would you be so kind to advise 30 days prior for my convenience? I am trying to be reasonable here.

:-/

Alex, didn't know you were looking for Gretsch again, I would have said something. I straight-traded the Gretsch kit for a Sonor Vintage in Black Slate 12/14/20/14sn.

TK-421 Ah ha ! That was you !! that put those stick marks on the heads! Just kiddin' - I put the factory heads aside and played them for a short while with regular Remo Ambassadors - then put the factory heads back when they sold.

All this talk of this kit is making me sad...I think now that I screwed up.

Anyway....I'll stop derailing this thread now...back to Keef - has he unboxed the Gretsches yet ?

Roadydad 03-08-2018 05:36 AM

Re: Keith Carlock new Gretsch
 
Perhaps Keith Carlock's Gretsch were delivered to the wrong house, hence the wait ?

Groov-E 03-08-2018 04:08 PM

Re: Keith Carlock new Gretsch
 
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Originally Posted by evilg99 (Post 1550045)
Alex, didn't know you were looking for Gretsch again, I would have said something. I straight-traded the Gretsch kit for a Sonor Vintage in Black Slate 12/14/20/14sn

Absolutely no worries Neal, I just happened to see your old BKs in the background on a picture of a Tama kit Dave put up for sale on his FB page, inquired but he said the kit moved the day he took the picture.

With the current Gretsch fad I too started regretting selling my usa customs, but then I remembered that 22x14 bd had zero balls. I am happy with what I have at the moment.

As for the unboxing, there seems to be a backlog at gretsch's marketing department as we are also waiting for Mike Johnston's unboxing. Great move by DW, this new marketing strategy combined with the existing impressive demand for gretsch kits will hopefully translate into increased sales.

TK-421 03-09-2018 12:02 AM

Re: Keith Carlock new Gretsch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by evilg99 (Post 1550045)
TK-421 Ah ha ! That was you !! that put those stick marks on the heads! Just kiddin' - I put the factory heads aside and played them for a short while with regular Remo Ambassadors - then put the factory heads back when they sold.

Mua-ha-ha!!! That was my plan all along, to go to NAMM just so I could leave stick marks on everyone's soon-to-be-new kits. And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids! (anyone recognize that quote???)

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Originally Posted by Roadydad (Post 1549990)
I believe I found your stick mark. 7 A ?

I've been playing Vater Lil' John Roberts Philly Style signature sticks for about six years now, so that's what it would have been at NAMM 2016. I don't even know who Lil' John Roberts is, but I love those sticks! (Basically a slightly elongated 5A with a gradual taper and acorn tip.)

GruntersDad 03-09-2018 01:43 AM

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The Twitter account says hashtag vintage champagne sparkle

J-Boogie 03-09-2018 09:22 PM

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Ruh Roh Raggy, no clue where that quote is from, zoinkies!

incrementalg 03-09-2018 09:47 PM

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Gretsch just posted the Mike Johnston un boxing of his new USA Custom set. I'd post a link, but I can't get my phone to copy it for some reason.

Groov-E 03-10-2018 03:31 AM

Re: Keith Carlock new Gretsch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by incrementalg (Post 1550261)
Gretsch just posted the Mike Johnston un boxing of his new USA Custom set. I'd post a link, but I can't get my phone to copy it for some reason.

https://youtu.be/oyL6u57hZS0

Gorgeous finish and great sound

Roadydad 03-10-2018 05:05 AM

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Those looked sweet, and sounded even sweeter.


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