Ramblerboy
Junior Member
I recently bought a Yamaha Stage Custom Bebop kit with the 15 x 18 bass - Sounds kinda flat with the stock heads - any ideas on a head combo for a deeper more open sound ? Prefer soild resonant head
You should hear my Mapex Horizon 18" which almost sounds like an 808 if i play a long tone.They do have a bit of a tuning range, but you aren't going to get a real deep sound out of an 18" bass drum.
You should hear my Mapex Horizon 18" which almost sounds like an 808 if i play a long tone.
Naturally, but i mean in comparison with other 18" kicks the Mapex has a lot of low. At least that is my experience.I had a Mapex Venus Voyager with an 18" kick fitted with an Evans Hydraulic.
It had a massive amount of punch. You could feel it in your chest. And the tone was fairly low, considering.
But when I went over to my 22", the difference in pitch was immediately apparent.
Quick question, are these the same quality as the normal Stage Custom but in smaller sizes?
Quick question, are these the same quality as the normal Stage Custom but in smaller sizes?
Good question. I'd like to know too. Same number of plies? Regular size Stage Customs seem like they have more.. Both are birch I'm pretty sure. Yamaha's web page should have the answer somewhere. Yamaha's quality is good top to bottom but with moving the operations to China to save $$ time will tell.
You can compare them here:
http://ca.yamaha.com/en/products/mu...s/scb_bop/?mode=model#list=within&mode=paging
http://ca.yamaha.com/en/products/musical-instruments/drums/drumsets/stage_custom/?mode=model
Both are 6 ply. I have both kits, and besides the sizes and heads, they seem the same. Except for one thing. The Bop kit has a darker color on the natural wood than the regular kit. Might just be because they came off the line at different times, and changed the procedure or something.
Another thing that's a bit strange, is that the Canada site shows the Bop kit as discontinued, while the USA site doesn't. Maybe they're just discontinued in Canada - I don't know.
And for Ramblerboy - since your first post, I also tried an Aquarian Superkick head on the 18". It sounds real good, and might be another option for you if you still have the kit.
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Thanks for your post. I had to go to the UK website to find the specs for the Bebop kit. Couldn't find it on the USA site.
I own this same kit as well and I'm finally starting to love how it is sounding.
The birch shells were great for jazz but I wasn't getting enough beefy sound for fusion/ funk rock stuff. So I installed:
Bass drum: Emad clear // remo ambassador coated w/ a felt strip running down the inside of the redo side - I finally like the sound!! Great for my hip-hop/ fusion gigs. I use a remo fiberskyn FA w/ a port cut port hole for festival stuff that needs quick mic setup.
Toms: both have Evans level 360 G2 Coated// Genera clear - I simply just tune up for jazz/ brush stuff but the important thing is that they work for my heavier gigs.
I only bought the shells so I don't play on a Yamaha snare currently.
I never used a riser but I'm going to pick one up and try it out.
Important thing here is that this kit has some room to sound bigger than it is marketed for (be-bop) and is great for the versatile - gigging drummer. I contemplated trading it in for something bigger - but try some new heads before you do!! It's a beautiful kit.
Is there any kit better than this at this pricerange (I'm not seeing any) or for slightly more money?
Not sure what they cost across the pond, but there's the Tama Silverstar series as well. Their 18" and 16" bass kits come with a bass drum lift.