Video of my Jazz Playing

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jay norem

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Hi Alex, you sound real good. I play matched grip too. You know your stuff man.
I'd like to ask you a question if you don't mind. There's been a discussion on another thread about what records should be recommended to a drummer who wants to learn about jazz drumming.
What records would you recommend to such a person, and what, if any, record do you remember helping you the most when you were just taking up the study of jazz drumming?
 

Clayton_C

Senior Member
Dear Clayton C.,

Thanks a lot for your very nice words!

Is that your real name or you pick it up as a tribute to the Brush Master?

Best regards and much succes in your drumming!
Nope, that's actually my real name! Maybe if I'm lucky, someone will confuse me with him and invite me to a huge gig in some important place!
 

Alex Sanguinetti

Silver Member

... what records should be recommended to a drummer who wants to learn about jazz drumming...
Dear Jay,

Thank you very much!

That's a difficult question to answer because there are so many great artists to learn from that would take a long time to list them all.

I basically focussed mostly from bop to today, and not so much on what happened before that (but that's interesting too, of course).

A very brief list of drummers I would reccomend to listen includes Max Roach, Art Blakey, "Philly" Joe, Roy Haynes, Elvin Jones, Tony Williams, Jack DeJohnette.

Then there are a lot of drummers who are more known for their contribution to Fusion playing, especially in the 70's, but that played jazz with special freshnes, like Steve Gadd (Chick Corea and so many others), Harvey Mason (Mulligan-Baker), Billy Cobham (lots of CTI records in the 70's and some late 60's), you can draw ideas from all of them, an incidentally any drummer you like from any style. As long as you understand the dinamics, touch, interaction, etc. that works well for jazz you'll be able to most likely ad what you like from them to your style of playing.

Then you have the more recent drummers like Jeff Watts, Ralph Peterson, Bill Stewart, etc.

I would basically recommend ANY record with those 13 drummers.

Then all the good local drummers, every town from every country has their own, a number of guys not too wellknown but that are great.

The list I made is very small, there are hundreds or even thousands, really, but at least it would help someone to start, and most probably, just looking for these artists, they would run into many other fantastic players.

It depends also on what specific direction of jazz drummer you want to be.



Best regards!

Alex Sanguinetti (Munich, Germany)
http://www.alexsanguinetti.com
http://www.myspace.com/alexsanguinetti

PD: In the case of the three first players listed I would like to mention one album from each, because many recordings of that period are not too clear due to the tecnology available back then (not that there are not lots of very clear recordings of them 'though):

* Max Roach: "Saxophone Colossus" (Sonny Rollins)
* Philly Joe Jones: "Sonny Clark Trio" (Sonny Clark)
* Art Blakey: "The Giants of Jazz" (live tour with Dizzy, Al McKibbon, Monk, Stitt, etc recorded at the Victoria Theatre in London)​
 
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jay norem

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* Max Roach: "Saxophone Coloseus" (Sonny Rollins)
* Philly Joe Jones: "Sonny Clark Trio" (Sonny Clark)
* Art Blakey: "Giants of Jazz" (live tour with Dizzy, Al McKibbon, Monk, Stitt, etc
Yeah. Sonny Clark! Great suggestion for a beginning jazz drummer, a piano trio.
 

Alex Sanguinetti

Silver Member


Hi Jay,

In your first message your question was:

...what records should be recommended to a drummer who wants to learn about jazz drumming...
However in your second was sligtly different (at least to me):

...suggestion for a beginning Jazz drummer, a piano trio.

My first answer was about drummers/records I think you should know if you want to "know about" or play jazz.

However, if the question is what drummers/records should someone concentrate on or analize if you are STARTING to play Jazz, my answer would be slightly different. It should be records that you, somehow, could analize and maybe play-a-long with:

So I include three (of the many):

* Max Roach: "Saxophone Colossus" (Sonny Rollins)
* Philly Joe Jones: "Art Pepper meets The Rhythm Section" (Art Pepper)
* Jimmie Cobb: "Gettin' Together" (Art Pepper)



For listening anyone of the first 13 drummers, but for STARTING TO ANALIZE the three previous records. Besides you should listen, even if you don't really understand what's going on, the kind of Jazz that excites you the most, whatever the direction is. The idea is that with those 3 records you can start developing some foundation for most types of Jazz.

Of course this is a simplified answer, the process is long, BUT BEAUTIFUL.

Best regards!

Alex Sanguinetti (Munich, Germany)
http://www.alexsanguinetti.com
http://www.myspace.com/alexsanguinetti

 
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jay norem

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So I include three (of the many):

* Max Roach: "Saxophone Colossus" (Sonny Rollins)
* Philly Joe Jones: "Art Pepper meets The Rhythm Section" (Art Pepper)
* Jimmie Cobb: "Gettin' Together" (Art Pepper)



For listening anyone of the first 13 drummers, but for STARTING TO ANALIZE the three previous records. Besides you should listen, even if you don't really understand what's going on, the kind of Jazz that excites you the most, whatever the direction is. The idea is that with those 3 records you can start developing some foundation for most types of Jazz.

Of course this is a simplified answer, the process is long, BUT BEAUTIFUL.

Best regards!

Alex Sanguinetti (Munich, Germany)
http://www.alexsanguinetti.com
http://www.myspace.com/alexsanguinetti
Excellent choices. I can't find fault with any of these. Appreciate the thoughtful response Alex.
You do know your stuff.
Have you visted the All About Jazz site? I think you may like it. And we definitely need more drummers there!

http://www.allaboutjazz.com/

It's been a little sleepy there today, but we get into some very good discussions and there some real heavies who post there. Come on and join up. You'd be a most welcome addition.

Jay
 

Alex Sanguinetti

Silver Member
great playing mate, loved the video :)
Dear asht89,

Thanks a lot for the positive feedback, and for expending some of your time watching the material. I imagine you are talking about the FIRST VIDEO.

Just in case:

I posted 4 VIDEOS in the thread, here are all of them together:


* Up Tempo Jazz Trading: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGngCan1eg0

* Medium Tempo Jazz Trading: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqHhBTatT1c

* Jazz Fusion Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRwtSxxIex0&feature=related

* Brazilian (Bossa Nova) Brushes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux7b407mtvA

Best regards!

Alex Sanguinetti (Munich, Germany)
http://www.alexsanguinetti.com
http://www.myspace.com/alexsanguinetti
 
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