This was a topic of discussion the other day

Skitch

Pioneer Member
It occurs to me that maybe chicky baby likes you Mike. Maybe she wanted to push your buttons to see if and how well you defended yourself.

Girls definitely test guys without letting on.
Who knows! I don't really care at this point; I'm on to other stuff but you're right about women testing men to see where the hot buttons are. It's kind of a disqualification test for them. I had one show up to my gig with a guy in tow. I politely introduced myself. Later, she revealed that this guy was her brother.

It's one of those things they do to see if you have self-control.


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GruntersDad

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I usually divulge a little information; however, it usually ends with me saying, "You know, you're probably right" pretty early on in the conversation.

This is less stressful and less time-consuming. People are going to think what they are going to think.
I had an Uncle who would argue anything to argue. Took me too long to figure out to agree with his initial statement and leave him with no where to go.
 

cbphoto

Gold Member
“Chicky-baby, I’m first in and last out. I get both first dibs and the leftovers. Which are you?”
 
“Chicky-baby, I’m first in and last out. I get both first dibs and the leftovers. Which are you?”
I know I'm pretty new around here so maybe there's some in-joke I'm missing where the talking like a neanderthal in a manner that would have been mortifying in antediluvian times is post-meta and entirely tongue-in-cheek...but even if so, all this "chicky-baby" stuff is really uncool.
 

CommanderRoss

Silver Member
Saying “chicky-baby” is a bigger problem than a possible misconception that drummers are undervalued.
Nah...she had that coming.

We're here to talk of what drummers earn, not to be PC. ANYONE shooting off at the mouth about what I do for a living (or as a person), will get called what I want to call them.
Otherwise, they need to show me the basic human respect they want to receive.

Remember: Approach determines response. It's just the way of life.
 

CommanderRoss

Silver Member
I know I'm pretty new around here so maybe there's some in-joke I'm missing where the talking like a neanderthal in a manner that would have been mortifying in antediluvian times is post-meta and entirely tongue-in-cheek...but even if so, all this "chicky-baby" stuff is really uncool.
Good Lord, man! Do you talk with words like that in your usual circles, or is there a thesaurus next to you for this forum?

I get what you're saying, but I think you need to look at the overall picture here. The OP was pretty much put on blast in a public place for his profession. She didn't seem to care about...how did you put it, "Neanderthal talk/post meta" when she made the initial comment.
So what was he supposed to do? Just ignore her & not defend his position that he's worked so hard to achieve?

Your education (either genuine or fronted) aside, we talk ALL things drumming here & do so in a very open, honest and often non-PC manner. If it's below your intellectual level, maybe this isn't the place for you.

Just something to think about.
 

Croc

Senior Member
In the current incarnation of King Crimson, ALL members including founder Robert Fripp take equal cuts of the performance revenues. And that includes three drummers!

Take that, chicky!
 
Nah...she had that coming.

We're here to talk of what drummers earn, not to be PC. ANYONE shooting off at the mouth about what I do for a living (or as a person), will get called what I want to call them.
Otherwise, they need to show me the basic human respect they want to receive.

Remember: Approach determines response. It's just the way of life.
Gotcha. So because some person said something stupid, the proper response is to then talk about her in a way that makes crystal clear you're a fucking asshole. Got it.

we talk ALL things drumming here & do so in a very open, honest and often non-PC manner.
Just so you know, in 2019, when you say "a very open, honest and often non-PC manner," I obviously can't know exactly how you think you're coming across, but to at least half the country, what we hear is you whining, "I can't say fag and spic and kike jokes anymore!"

How was that? Thesaurus-free enough? Any words there you need explained?
 

Skitch

Pioneer Member
I know I'm pretty new around here so maybe there's some in-joke I'm missing where the talking like a neanderthal in a manner that would have been mortifying in antediluvian times is post-meta and entirely tongue-in-cheek...but even if so, all this "chicky-baby" stuff is really uncool.
You're also pretty delicate and hate free speech. If you don't like something, you can simply choose to not participate in the discussion and leave that discussion.


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larryace

"Uncle Larry"
I take no issue with the descriptive term chicky baby. Because Mike didn't say that to her face. I think it's harmless. Mike is allowed to have his own unpopular opinions. After all, she attacked Mike. If she was a dude, any name Mike gave him wouldn't have raised an eyebrow, guaranteed.

Mike was just describing his attitude towards her, to us only, not her, via his snark. No harm no foul, it's his prerogative. She was never exposed to it. If a person attacked me, what, I don't have a right to feel something negative towards that person? And am I not allowed to express that negativity because of PC? FPC. She was the antagonist, therefore the responsibility and any fallout falls squarely on her shoulders, not Mike's.

I'm so sick of being PC. This is being puffed up way beyond what it actually is.

Mike was sharing a story and he added some of his own very tame commentary, to us only, that's all. Let's not get all superior over it. We need to stick together and support one another, not be attacking from within...

FWIW Mike I respect your opinion of chicky baby. It's only because she's female that this is an issue. Seems more in line with real equality to me.
 

PorkPieGuy

Platinum Member
Gotcha. So because some person said something stupid, the proper response is to then talk about her in a way that makes crystal clear you're a fucking asshole. Got it.



Just so you know, in 2019, when you say "a very open, honest and often non-PC manner," I obviously can't know exactly how you think you're coming across, but to at least half the country, what we hear is you whining, "I can't say fag and spic and kike jokes anymore!"

How was that? Thesaurus-free enough? Any words there you need explained?

You know, you're probably right.
 

8Mile

Platinum Member
You're also pretty delicate and hate free speech. If you don't like something, you can simply choose to not participate in the discussion and leave that discussion.
Right. So I can insult your mother and call her names, and then you'll just not participate and leave the discussion, right? Because otherwise you'd be delicate. And hating my free speech.

Just want to make sure I understand how this works.
 

cbphoto

Gold Member
Right. So I can insult your mother and call her names, and then you'll just not participate and leave the discussion, right? Because otherwise you'd be delicate. And hating my free speech.

Just want to make sure I understand how this works.
I surprised "chicky-baby" is considered offensive. Some dude gets his panties in a bunch over an innocuous remark and people begin tearing each other down. SMH.

This is how it works:
 

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8Mile

Platinum Member
I surprised "chicky-baby" is considered offensive. Some dude gets his panties in a bunch over an innocuous remark and people begin tearing each other down. SMH.

This is how it works:
What does it matter? He’s offended, you’re not. I don’t understand why people are offended by some things, either. But it is what it is. We’re allowed to disagree.

People are too sensitive. But the ones who complain the most about it tend to be some of the most easily offended. They’re just offended by different things.
 

TMe

Senior Member
...with chicky-baby stating that...
You're complaining about someone casually giving offense, possibly without even realizing it, because of their ignorance.

As the saying goes, if you listen closely to the accusation, you'll often hear a confession.

People are too sensitive.
Especially drummers who take offense when a random stranger doesn't know much about drumming.
 

KEEF

Senior Member
No-one should get offended by just words - they're just words!!

Plenty of things in this world we should be offended by.....
 

MrInsanePolack

Platinum Member
Gotcha. So because some person said something stupid, the proper response is to then talk about her in a way that makes crystal clear you're a fucking asshole. Got it.



Just so you know, in 2019, when you say "a very open, honest and often non-PC manner," I obviously can't know exactly how you think you're coming across, but to at least half the country, what we hear is you whining, "I can't say fag and spic and kike jokes anymore!"

How was that? Thesaurus-free enough? Any words there you need explained?
Yes because calling someone an F-ing A-hole (I kept it clean for you) is much better than chicky-baby.

The other half of the country hears you whining. That's it. Stop being a baby.

Words don't hurt. If you disagree, you call me names and I'll shoot you in the foot. We shall see what hurts more.
 

TMe

Senior Member
Yes because calling someone an F-ing A-hole (I kept it clean for you) is much better than chicky-baby.
There seems to be a lot of that going around. People are offended by something, so they respond by giving offence.

To use another old saying, we become what we hate.
 
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