Sorry to disagree with you but her's the ultimate.If you going to buye a new steam bent snare from Europa, here is ultimate guy for you:
Yes, that is true. Be that as it may, ply drums can still sound terrific.But the biggest problem with plywood, in my opinion, is that different pieces of woods, often from different boards or even trees, usually running in different directions, cause interference with sound transmission by breaking up the coherence of parallel grain structure.
They may be great, ( and may-be better - I never play on those snares) .
There is nothing like the sound of natural whole wood drums.
The grain & colour on your snare is absolutely delicious! What timber species is that?They may be great, ( and may-be better - I never play on those snares) .
They are looking WONDERFUL, and I gues, sound as well too -
But the Holly Grail among the drums is Holow log drumshell curved out of trunk from a few hundred years old tree.
As my ALM Antonio snare,(holow-log) that I get/receive yesterday:
Oh, sorry. Elm ( Alm in Sweidish).The grain & colour on your snare is absolutely delicious! What timber species is that?
Oh, sorry. Elm ( Alm in Sweidish).
I cant tell how "good" hollow log sound - I have not yet discover / test how mine is sounding. Since I never play a holow drum before , so I did not have another holow drums to compare with either.
And Elm is completly new material/wood, for me, when it comes to drums.
But the little I have tried it so far ( today) ....
1- Unsualy sound. Can not explain better.
2- Seems to be very responisv.
3 -Not at all rings ( overtone.. you said like that??) as "ordinary" wood snare use to have. Much more "wooden" sound , aschh... I can not find rigth words. But I have not yet try to tune it higher or lower...
4.- Warm. Unusaly warm.
5- Badge is not "oval" as snare :-( . Since its "flat" , its not attached 100% to the shell on the edges.You can see it on the pictures, that there is a little space between badge and shell.
Acctualy, nothing to get angry for. I can "press" it round , "back", to the shell, to get it "oval" as the shell. But that was something I see at the first secont I was looking at the snare.
But I have to play it more to see what it goes for.
I hade no idea that Elm and Zelkova ( sibirian wood ) was cousins...?It looks like Zelkova to me which is in the Elm family. Here is a Canopus solid shell Zelkova snare for comparison:
Thank.Groove, that is the best looking snare I have seen. And I have seen a few. Can not wait to see the whole kit. WOW.
What you're describing is pretty much what I would expect. The basic characteristics are the same as thick shell stave in a softer wood. The lack of sweet spot is more down to thickness than anything else. The bottom head sensitivity comes from the unmolested vertical grain transferring vibrations directly from the batter head to the reso head. You should notice that especially at lower volumes. The same mechanism is giving you a lot of body in your rimshots. You can get these drums to crack, but you should be using a fairly thin head & high tuning. You'll lose some body in the sound, but you will increase the cut. At the same time, you'll get some higher overtones coming through to give it a bit more life. I'm guessing the batter head bearing edge isn't too sharp. That will also give you more shell tone & a slight muffling affect.Thank.
And I can hardley wait to receive my set too. He think that my 3 toms will be finnish about 4-5 month from today...
And kick few month after toms.
I tried snare more today. I have not test tune it , I just play little on it.
Its responiv .
But I could not find any sweetspot... strange. Snare sound allmost the same, if I hit it on the edge or in the middle, losser, harder, hard.... Very unuslay... I still do not know what to think about that...? Good - bad?
But rolls --- wowww, I did not know that I was SO GOOD?!?! They just work...!!!
Another think i find out prety soon, thats its loud. Very loud.On a another way. When I hit rimshots, there was a sound I did not expected, . it was DEEP and Loud sound, BUT without a typical CRACK that made s snare cutting througt. ( I like "crack" ). Instead I get something like a deep bottom. Loud, bottom. And I feels like snare can give more than that... like when you are trying a new STRONG amplifier.. you turn it up to 50% volyme... and a redy to blow windows... and its powerful... but you do not feel you aproach max... there is more to give. You almost not dare to turn it upp more. That was feeling when I hit snare hard, rimshots. Like ther is MUCH MORE to go.. It feels like you can hit it hardest you can, blow heads, but snare can take it all.
But no "typical" Crack ?!?
I must try it when gig with my band to find out if that volume , without crack I am use to, is enought to cut throu.
And allmost NO rings att all. Nice, No needs for tape or moongel.
Its not like snare I had before, any of it: Pearl Piccolo,GeorgeWay, Camco, Cravitoto, Supraphonics, Premier AceRoyal, Premier 2000, Ludwig Hamdhammred Bronze, 3 ply Ludwig snares, usaly and unusaly standard Tama, Pearl, Premier snares... It something... different. I guess I have to use to it, try to tune it upp and down.
I have not tune a snare at all, and tesnion on heads was pretty losse ( l guess between loose - and medium tuning). Thats how they waswhen snare arrive.You can get these drums to crack, but you should be using a fairly thin head & high tuning.
I get a few drums recoring ( without any EQ, Compressor, Reverb ) from Antonio, and one other guys who allreday have a set, simmilar to that I have order,i toms have a very-very punchy and foused sound. A ring for a hours with high tuning,... With low tuning they produce a very deep tone 14"x 12,5" tom 12,5" = deep) sound allmost( or better said- AS) like my 18"x18" L.A. Camco floortom. But, within that low-tuning, they produce more "normal" ring, not so long as with high tuning.As for the rest of the kit, do you want a similar focussed sound from your other drums, especially the toms? Maybe a good idea to discuss shell thickness & bearing edges with your builder. Those two factors make a very big difference to the way your drums respond, & your builder will be able to describe the options available to you.