Six a.m.- This is Gonna Hurt

keep it simple

Platinum Member
I hate the phrase "everyone is doing it" because I feel like I'm back in middle school trying to get the newest fashion trend. However, consider even the Foo Fighters, who tracked their newest album on tape (!) edited it digitally and used sound replacement on the drums. Even the guys that "do it old school" end up falling into the traps of the mainstream monotony. Call me old fashioned (at 27) but I enjoy listening to "vintage" rock albums and hearing an occasional rim, off beat hit (not talking "Livin' in the USA" by Steve Miller where the tempo is overtly pushed into next week), and tiny- otherwise unnoticeable- gaffs in the song. It's called being human, it's called being a musician, and it's called letting the song breathe.
Good post, & I agree. I'm hopeful that eventually this practice will be going against the tide, but don't hold your breath on that. The straight truth, horrible though it is, is that the vast majority of band fans just don't give a damn. Acts don't make albums for the consumption of musicians, or at least, very few do. Shame, because I don't think the drum sounds on that track are especially great, & they could certainly be attained/bettered by a well tuned kit & a bit of desk/outboard work. Nice song hook though.
 

AJNystrom

Member
Sounds like the drums are a product of sound replacement and not programming. Unfortunately, even if there's a live drummer (which Sixx AM has, and a very good one at that in Glen Sobel and/or Tony Palermo) that drummers hits are tweaked to be /exactly/ on time thanks to Pro Tools and other editing software and the tones from the drums are replaced with individually sampled drums to get /exactly/ the right tone for each song.

I hate the phrase "everyone is doing it" because I feel like I'm back in middle school trying to get the newest fashion trend. However, consider even the Foo Fighters, who tracked their newest album on tape (!) edited it digitally and used sound replacement on the drums. Even the guys that "do it old school" end up falling into the traps of the mainstream monotony. Call me old fashioned (at 27) but I enjoy listening to "vintage" rock albums and hearing an occasional rim, off beat hit (not talking "Livin' in the USA" by Steve Miller where the tempo is overtly pushed into next week), and tiny- otherwise unnoticeable- gaffs in the song. It's called being human, it's called being a musician, and it's called letting the song breathe.
 

spides666

Senior Member
I use Superior Drummer at home and well I couldn't tell these drums were programmed...this is a good album but most songs are very influential of mainstream artists. I'd have to listen back but one track well if I was Muse I'd probably sue...

But overall not a bad album, some awesome lead solo's and I didn't realise there was a first album
 
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sticks4drums

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I love that song. Nikki Sixx has done well with this group. Better than Motley IMO. Great post Sticks!!
If you listen to the whole album it is very well done. I am not a Crue fan, but this album is good.
 

Biscuit

Senior Member
I love that song. Nikki Sixx has done well with this group. Better than Motley IMO. Great post Sticks!!
 
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sticks4drums

Guest
I got an itunes card for Fathers day, and bought this album, or whatever you call it now. I already had a single from their first album last year, but this album really impressed me. I don't think there is a dud on it. It is very mainstream, but easy to listen to. The drums are programmed, which I don't like, and you can tell. I guess it was easier than fighting with one of us block heads. :) The lyrics seem to have a conscious which I like. I really like the vocalists sound. Give it a listen. .
 
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