Simon Phillips

keep it simple

Platinum Member
Re: Can Simon play jazz?

What can I say guys? I checked this thread out after being away for a day, expecting maybe 1 or 2 extra replies and I find this!! Thanks for putting some energy into the debate. I've certainly learnt a lot from the guys here with a sound knowledge of jazz. I asked the question because I felt hugely under qualified to satisfy my own intrigue. In my very poorly informed opinion, the performance left me a bit cold. He didn't nail it as a rock player nor did he approch the piece with the syncopation and avoidance of first beat in the bar accent I'd expected. Don't get me wrong here, a whole ton better than I could achieve but not up to the usual Phillips innovation approach. Take his playing with his band, Protocol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H0tm-Hs9qo from 92. For most rock drummers, a really uncomfortable departure, yet he performed this with a certainty of purpose. That clarity of direction is missing on the jazz piece we're discussing. A sort of "on the fence" performance. I'm no good at analyzing the finer defining points of this feeling, it's just the vibe I pick up.

I've seen Simon many times. Unless you've seen him live, it's almost impossible to appreciate the power, dynamics and musicallity of this man. I can honestly say I've never been as impressed by any other player live as I have by Simon Phillips. This one just misses the mark for me, as does the latest PSP stuff I've heard to date, oh so clever but devoid of passion.
 

Deltadrummer

Platinum Member
Re: Can Simon play jazz?

He is a very musical player and he knows to surround himself with great players, Anthony Jackson here. He is a great fusion drummer and certainly looks like he is having a good time on this clip.
 

pbloxam

Senior Member
Re: Can Simon play jazz?

I believe Simon started out in his fathers Big Band and later moved on....

Therefore, early on, he was playing big band music, some jazz and his early infuences are all jazz related...

The performance on the video was excellent in my opinion...

While I am not fond of his association with Babko as it takes away from his monstrous playing...

I have most of Simon's solo stuff, with Beck, Priest, Toto, members of the Who, instructional DVD's, etc...

The guys on hundreds of albums....

One of my favorite players of all time..Just saw him play with Greg Howe, Eddie Jobson, Trey Gunn, and Marco Minneman on duel drums!!!!

Amazing!!!!

The guy can play anything with authority!!! I watched them tear up Mahavishnu material as though it was a cakewalk!!!!

Yeah, he can jazz it too!!!!
 
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jivadayadasa

Senior Member
IMO a thread about Simon Phillips isn't complete without mentioning his work on 801 Live with Phil Manzanera and Brian Eno.

His power, energy, tightness and speed was awesome on East of Asteroid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39eHgk5b1Ek) from that album, which was a mashup of Phil's East of Echo and Quiet Sun's Mummy Was an Asteroid, Daddy Was a Small Non-Stick Kitchen Utensil (yes, that's what it was called :)

It's hard not to like a guy who can not only do the "herd of stampeding elephants" double kick thing and super smooth grace notes.

As a side note, Quiet Sun was an experimental project of Phil M's while he was still with Roxy and featured the excellent Charles Hayward on kit and Bill McCormack on bass.
OMG! This was one of the albums that got me drumming way back when. Stunning finesse and power - I was just listening to this the other day with an old friend (TNK). I am so glad you mentioned this - thank you!

I have been working on some grooves that are inspired by Simon's playing. It has got me open-handed and like a fish out of water... I really like when he plays an ostinato on the hat with left hand, accents around toms w/ right hand, then seamlessly switches to right hand on hat (same exact ostinato), left accenting drums to the left of his hat.

I am trying to develop my weaker side (left) and use some of his sticking. It's like deep tissue massage: painful to do but I like how I feel afterwards.
 

Roger//

Junior Member
Very unique style with heads and tuning.
If you heard him soundcheck, sounds little too high when someone else plays.
But... when Simon sits down... mg!
Tried clear Ambassadors on my bassdrum. Sounds great. Just one problem for me...
Far less control over my playing, becouse the head is moving so much....

great drummer, one of my favs!
 

Mad About Drums

Pollyanna's Agent
Simon Phillips B-Sides - The Rarities

Heys guys

This thread's for the fans of the muli-styles talented super session drummer Simon Phillips who has recorded with hundreds of artists in almost any styles of music.

The idea of this thread is to show and share some of Simon's little gems and treasures through his, sometimes, not so well know brilliant work via the mean of videos, mp3, mp4 etc.

I have followed Simon's career from 1980, I eventually went back to the start of his session work from 1974.

So please post your videos and mp3 of Simon's rare or forgotten recordings here on this thread. I'll be delighted to discover "new" tracks I didn't know about.


So here's the first 4 links to start this thread with some magic grooves from the Man:

Sunshine of Your Love by Toto from Through The Looking Glass, I know it's not really a rarity, but it's a special one for Andy, I know he loves to play this track :))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjaYkRO9Bsg

Behind your Dark Eyes by Bernie Marsden (Whitesnake, Alaska) from Look at Me Know (1981). A lovely 16th notes feel in this groove...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU3J3FEkcL4&feature=related

Camino Real by Duncan Brown from The Wild Places (1978), a very young Simon on this track, with John Giblin on bass (later in the 80's he played for Simple Minds).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKpDxJvKCCI

Head The Ball by Bernie Marsden (again) from And About Time Too (1979), dream rythm section here, Jack Bruce and Simon, phheeww!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_9zriz_wRE

Enjoy!

And if you have an anecdote about Simon, tell us the story...

And please post some vids :))
 
Re: Simon Phillips B-Sides - The Rarities

Hi MAD,

First off - well done, nicely structured and put on reality.
Now I'm enjoying my time with this thread and fixing to come back for the attack with some Simon's B-sides - The Rarities...which I like the most.

Simon Phillips - Dancing Men / Buddy Rich Burning For Buddy.

Check: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlnS-ViVte0&feature=related

Michael Schenker Group - Simon Phillips Drum Solo, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSmU62Z41bg

Cheers,

Ian
 
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Mad About Drums

Pollyanna's Agent
Re: Simon Phillips B-Sides - The Rarities

Hi MAD,

First off - well done, nicely structured and put on reality.
Now I'm enjoying my time with this thread and fixing to come back for the attack with some Simon's B-sides - The Rarities...which I like the most.

Simon Phillips - Dancing Men / Buddy Rich Burning For Buddy.

Check: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlnS-ViVte0&feature=related

Michael Schenker Group - Simon Phillips Drum Solo, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSmU62Z41bg

Cheers,

Ian
Hi Ian

Thanks for the kind comments

Loved this version of Dancing Men, Big Band drumming requires big energy as well as subtility, Simon's got it all, loved the drums & bass bridge, amazing...

The solo with MSG show Simon's more athletics approach while soloing in a heavy rock contest. I do have the original Michael shenker's Group "Armed and Ready" album circa early 80's, but unfortunately, only on vinyl record, so it lays in a box in a cupboard (sigh...)

Thanks for posting

Cheers :))
 

Mad About Drums

Pollyanna's Agent
Re: Simon Phillips B-Sides - The Rarities

Fantastic thread!!!!! Although I've posted a clip of this gig before, this is a different video. Finesse = no. Vibe, dynamics, skill, groove, balls = oh man, yes yes yes!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8qE5srP4dE&feature=related = incredible drumming energy in the last section :)
I like your description of the feel of this song, quite accurate...

I've got the DVD of this gig and the Steve Lukather's studio album with the featured song, During Simon solo, I've always asked myself " how the 3 guys can keep the ostinato going without loosing it? Simon's going all over the place and they keep the groove going. Simply amazing...

Thanks for posting it Andy, it's so good for our ears...
 

Mad About Drums

Pollyanna's Agent
Re: Simon Phillips B-Sides - The Rarities

Hi guys

Well, so far, so good... I'll post a couple of track everyday for a few days.

Here are the 2 links for today's post:

Rod Stewart's Sailing by Rock Against Repatriation (1990), a charity single and video featuring various artists. Simon and Pino Palladino are the rythm section here, very creative and subtle groove in the first part of the song and then... well... you watch the video and you tell me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S-x54SxlI0

Hymn To Her by the Pretenders (1986), aaah! Chrissie Hynde's voice... and a subtle groove from our man... Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGWyPJYJc4o

That's it for today guys
 

Mad About Drums

Pollyanna's Agent
Re: Simon Phillips B-Sides - The Rarities

As promised, here are the 2 videos highlighting the grooves and moods of legendary Simon Phillips...

"In The Night" by Russ Ballard first solo album (1984), Simon's and Mo Foster on bass, a rock solid groove (with that nice 16th note's feel on the bass drum).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF6cRvc8fFE

"T.N.K. (Tomorrow Never Knows)" the Beatles' cover by 801 live (1976), a very young Simon already showing patterns that are his trademarks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkCQOdQ0Q8A&feature=related

Enjoy!

A couple's more tomorrow...
 

mikeybbdrummin

Senior Member
Re: Simon Phillips B-Sides - The Rarities

Check out Simon on Derek Sherinian's new cd Oceana...............w/Macalpine, Lukather, Bonamasso, S.Stevens and D. Aldrich..................good fusion going on!
 

Mad About Drums

Pollyanna's Agent
Re: Simon Phillips B-Sides - The Rarities

Check out Simon on Derek Sherinian's new cd Oceana...............w/Macalpine, Lukather, Bonamasso, S.Stevens and D. Aldrich..................good fusion going on!
Hey! Thanks Mickey B, that's awesome... AND the album has been recorded and produced by Simon Phillips in his studio!!! Wow, this is good.

A couple of songs from that album:

Oceana : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayuXNeRLMHQ&feature=related

Five Elements : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gccWtV0fXGw

Enjoy! ...I did :)
 

Mad About Drums

Pollyanna's Agent
Re: Simon Phillips B-Sides - The Rarities

Hey folks,

Not as much posts as I would like to see on this thread, but I see that it has been viewed quite a few times... so I'll posts some more.

On today's post I want to share with you some fast shuffles from Simon. Stamina and endurance at it's best.

"Space Boogie" by Jeff Beck from the album There And Back (1980), fast, ghost notes, dynamics and it's in 7/4.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij7yR0LubxY

"Face The Face" by Pete Towhsend (The Who) from the album White City (1986), this is a live version at the Brixton Academy Theater in Brixton, London (same year 1986) (I was there !!!),he play the secondary snare with his left hand and the suffle on hats with the right hand and when he switch to the main snare, it's the opposite way, impressive, he's completely ambidextrous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5R-b6wyN6w&feature=related

"Moonshine" by Ian Gillan (Deep Purple) from the album Naked Thunder (1990), a driving suffle groove with a splendid Phillips trademark's intro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcwlgPM07D8

Enjoy!
 

Mad About Drums

Pollyanna's Agent
Re: Simon Phillips B-Sides - The Rarities

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0opdoZJRZ4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Guys, great thread !
Check this rare one out - Shankar 1979 with frank Zappa producing. It's a "Little Stinker"!!

Enjoy.... :)
Hey Tamastar

WHAT a find man! ...I knew that Simon had recorded for Shankar, I read this in a Simon's interview in Modern Drummer years ago, but I never been able to find it... until NOW. I see that from this link to YouTube that we can listen to the whole album, well I know what I'm listening tonight.

Thank you sooooooooooooo much! :))
 

keep it simple

Platinum Member
Re: Simon Phillips B-Sides - The Rarities

Just got back to here, & listened to every link. Truly great stuff, & a real display of just how prolific Simon is over 35 years (& probably longer) of music making. & that's the key phrase here, music making. I know of no other player who has immersed himself so successfully into so many genres.

Sorry guys, I don't have any clips to offer now. I'm largely ignorant of who's who detail, but super interested to hear what comes up.
 

Mad About Drums

Pollyanna's Agent
Re: Simon Phillips B-Sides - The Rarities

...super interested to hear what comes up.
Thanks Andy... makes it worthwile to upload some more.

Here's a couple tracks from the master's master.

"Shadow On The Wall" by Mike Oldfield from the album Crises (1983) co-produced by Simon Phillips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFKwyzb5S34

"Romani" by Mike Rutherford's (Genesis) first solo album Smallcreep's Day (1980) a groovy song in odd time signature by "Si Phi"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzzu8hd4Gs4&feature=related

Enjoy!
 
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