Shameless In-Tense testimonial

larryace

"Uncle Larry"
Here's a copy paste of a PM to Andy I decided to put out there. In a nutshell, the In-Tense snare just raised the bar bigtime, and I am ecstatic about it.

Hey Andy,

Sorry but I just had to gush to you. Last night was the first time I had a gig where I could hit the Guru snare more at a normal volume. OMG that thing records so amazing. And I really couldn't lay into it, but I didn't have to stifle myself either. The first recording I made with the die cast hoops, I really had to hold back volume-wise, it was a hard surfaced room with very few people in it that night. Even then the snare sounded equal to or slightly better than my maple drum.

But last night, since I could hit it at a normal volume, the Guru BLEW THE DOORS OFF my maple drum on the recording. I actually feel I have the best snare drum in the world, the thing just kind of dropped my jaw. I was so friggin pleased with what I was hearing...The In-Tense are just out of this world. Oh and the cross stick sound? It's not all in the hoops. That shell contributes a lot. I really, REALLY love the cross stick sound even with the die casts. Unbelievable. Color me blown away.

Brady? Joyful Noise? Bah!

In-Tense FTW.

Really, not everyone can afford a whole kit. But a snare should be within everyone's grasp. Everybody should at least own a Guru snare lol.

The friggin ash sounds ah-mazing, I can't get over it. I didn't think it was possible that I could like any snare more than the maple, but this thing is not just a little bit better, it's so much better sounding than the maple. Still in disbelief a little. Didn't think this was possible.

So the snare continues to knock me out, in a gigantic way. I am thinking of sending you a dropbox file of last nights entire recording so you can hear for yourself. I am still just as excited over this whole kit as the day I got them. I didn't expect that, and let me tell you...all the money I paid...OMG it was so worth it.

I remember you saying..."Oh Larry that snare is a honey"....I mean I loved it from first crack but I didn't realize the full potential of this drum until last night. So I am just about as tickled as I can get.

So sorry for the bother, but I had to tell you.

BTW, feel free to use any of my quotes in these exchanges on your website if you want. If you ever need a satisfied customers testimonial...hit me up.

So thanks again Andy. I don't know how else to express how satisfied I am.

Larry
 

keep it simple

Platinum Member
This is why we do what we do. As builders/designers, It's easy to get caught up in the detail, so receiving an informed & unsolicited real world validation is always such a huge pleasure.

That said Larry, I have to resurrect the old forum line - "recording (photo), or it didn't happen" ;)
 

tamadrm

Platinum Member
Thanks Lar...,.It's great to get first hand info ,that verifies just how great these drums really are.

No hollow marketing approach,just beautiful instruments,presented in an honest and completely open manner.None of the "ours are better" because of XYZ

These are our drums,this is out philosophy,this is what they look like,and this is how they sound,without any enhancement what so ever.These instruments, are just on a whole different level from everything else out there.Art meets function.

To be honest,I never thought such a thing was possible,when combining wood,glue,metal and plastic......I'm glad I was wrong.

Guru really IS different from the status quo.

Steve B
 

larryace

"Uncle Larry"
I've tried black beauties, supras, sensitones in both bronze and brass, a Pearl birch drum.....none of them beat my maple to my ear, in the recording. They were all a pleasure to play onstage for sure, and onstage, I was happy with just about all of them. But to me it's the recording I go by. I am not a fan of posting music anymore but I might make an exception, just so everyone can hear the voice this thing has. I would have to put up a few songs to show it off, because the cross stick sound is so pleasing. So give me some time and I'll split out a few songs.
 

steadypocket

Gold Member
Here's a copy paste of a PM to Andy I decided to put out there. In a nutshell, the In-Tense snare just raised the bar bigtime, and I am ecstatic about it.

Hey Andy,

Sorry but I just had to gush to you. Last night was the first time I had a gig where I could hit the Guru snare more at a normal volume. OMG that thing records so amazing. And I really couldn't lay into it, but I didn't have to stifle myself either. The first recording I made with the die cast hoops, I really had to hold back volume-wise, it was a hard surfaced room with very few people in it that night. Even then the snare sounded equal to or slightly better than my maple drum.

But last night, since I could hit it at a normal volume, the Guru BLEW THE DOORS OFF my maple drum on the recording. I actually feel I have the best snare drum in the world, the thing just kind of dropped my jaw. I was so friggin pleased with what I was hearing...The In-Tense are just out of this world. Oh and the cross stick sound? It's not all in the hoops. That shell contributes a lot. I really, REALLY love the cross stick sound even with the die casts. Unbelievable. Color me blown away.

Brady? Joyful Noise? Bah!

In-Tense FTW.

Really, not everyone can afford a whole kit. But a snare should be within everyone's grasp. Everybody should at least own a Guru snare lol.

The friggin ash sounds ah-mazing, I can't get over it. I didn't think it was possible that I could like any snare more than the maple, but this thing is not just a little bit better, it's so much better sounding than the maple. Still in disbelief a little. Didn't think this was possible.

So the snare continues to knock me out, in a gigantic way. I am thinking of sending you a dropbox file of last nights entire recording so you can hear for yourself. I am still just as excited over this whole kit as the day I got them. I didn't expect that, and let me tell you...all the money I paid...OMG it was so worth it.

I remember you saying..."Oh Larry that snare is a honey"....I mean I loved it from first crack but I didn't realize the full potential of this drum until last night. So I am just about as tickled as I can get.

So sorry for the bother, but I had to tell you.

BTW, feel free to use any of my quotes in these exchanges on your website if you want. If you ever need a satisfied customers testimonial...hit me up.

So thanks again Andy. I don't know how else to express how satisfied I am.

Larry
Larry, I can so relate to your enthusiasm and appreciation. I must correct you on one point, however. You don't have the best snare in the world. I do. You should hear my Guru In-Tense padauk stave and you'd understand. :)

Seriously, these things are the most amazing MUSICAL instruments I've heard or played. Funny you should cite Joyful Noise and Brady. I have three off the former and one of the latter. Love them dearly but there is something special about Dean and Andy's creations.
 

Red Menace

Platinum Member
Larry, I can so relate to your enthusiasm and appreciation. I must correct you on one point, however. You don't have the best snare in the world. I do. You should hear my Guru In-Tense padauk stave and you'd understand. :)
Looks like we're gonna have ourselves a good old fashioned Guru-off. Gents, get your sticks and meet me in front of the clock tower.

Larry, this thread is really in bad taste. You know us guys barely gave our GAS under control and now you come forward with tales of this magic snare drum!! For God's sake Man, I'm getting married soon! How will I hide another custom snare from the Mrs??

Seriously though, glad to hear your happy but this thread falls quite short without a picture of this fabled magic snare. If you're gonna anger up the blood and the GAS then might as well go all the way.
 

keep it simple

Platinum Member
Looks like we're gonna have ourselves a good old fashioned Guru-off. Gents, get your sticks and meet me in front of the clock tower.
Hahaha, so nice to see. Who gets to decide the winner? ;)

Both drums are very different. Actually, at opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of how they voice, yet they share the same physical DNA to some extent.
 

Magenta

Platinum Member
So give me some time and I'll split out a few songs.
PLEASE do, pretty pretty please!

Hahaha, so nice to see. Who gets to decide the winner? ;)
That would be fun! There couldn't be a winner though, because that would mean there would be a loser, and that's inconceivable.

Both drums are very different. Actually, at opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of how they voice, yet they share the same physical DNA to some extent.
This is fascinating. Do people generally have a clear preference between them? If not, how do they ultimately decide which to go for?
 

keep it simple

Platinum Member
This is fascinating. Do people generally have a clear preference between them? If not, how do they ultimately decide which to go for?
The BIG question. There's the basic characters that some artists understand, & with solid shells, it's fairly easy to nail them down. Then there's the huge personal preference element. Finally, there's the little curved ball that the instrument conception/execution brings to the table. It's all layers & trigger points. Ultimately, it's whether the instrument achieves the sound you seek in your head, or if the instrument fills a particular gap.
 

larryace

"Uncle Larry"
This is fascinating. Do people generally have a clear preference between them? If not, how do they ultimately decide which to go for?
Speaking for myself, having owned a drum that is very close to a stave drum (Canopus Zelkova) because of that drum, I realized that I like my shells to have tension on them. I believe it makes the tone livelier with more overtones. The vertical grain of the Zelkova sounded a little too focused and dry for me. I never tried a segmented, but I believe Andy when he says the segmented tone sits right between the stave and steambent tone. I like lively screaming drums lol so I go for steambent. I can always focus it down but you can't make a stave drum lively like a steambent. So that's my logic for choosing steambent.
 

Jeremy Bender

Platinum Member
Larry, I believe your comments are spot on accurate. I own both a Noble & Cooley steam-bent maple and a Drum Art stave cherry. They both possess the features you just described.
I chose the cherry to fill a "particular gap" in my choices of voices as Andy mentioned, as it's nice to have a sonic variety to choose from for different musical applications.

Congrats on the new snare, it sounds like it's a wonderful instrument to play.
 

keep it simple

Platinum Member
This weekend, I actually had some electrical work to do all this week.
Ah - good :) been away from drum business for most of this week too, but back at it now. Finishing off windows getting ready to paint the new workshop today, then off to London tomorrow to pick up a new spindle moulder ready for conversion to a mega accurate bearing edge cutting machine :)
 
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The Old Hyde

Guest
I remember liking the snare from the LDS videos a lot. is it the same line of snares?
 

keep it simple

Platinum Member
I remember liking the snare from the LDS videos a lot. is it the same line of snares?
Same line (ish), the In-Tense series, but the one on the LDS video is a 13" x 7" segmented shell with ovangkol hoops. Larry's (current) snare is a 14" x 5.75" steam bent version with cast hoops featured on his sound clip/clips although he does have ovangkol hoops for it (please correct me if I'm wrong Larry).

Picture with kit is Larry's actual steam bent ash snare, but shown with his Ovangkol hoops fitted. Other picture is a 13" segmented snare as featured in the LDS video.
 

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The Old Hyde

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AAAHHHH my guru porn fix for the day. those snares are amazing. hiding those behind a kit so no one can see them is a crime!!
 

brady

Platinum Member
I've tried black beauties, supras, sensitones in both bronze and brass, a Pearl birch drum.....none of them beat my maple to my ear, in the recording. They were all a pleasure to play onstage for sure, and onstage, I was happy with just about all of them. But to me it's the recording I go by. I am not a fan of posting music anymore but I might make an exception, just so everyone can hear the voice this thing has. I would have to put up a few songs to show it off, because the cross stick sound is so pleasing. So give me some time and I'll split out a few songs.
This is what really struck me.

I actually did a recording a few weeks ago with my blues band, and upon playback, did not the sound of my Supra (LM400) at all. I kept tweeking it between takes and all I kept getting was a super dry sound. I especially didn't like how it sounded with a shuffle; very clunky. I ended up going with the 5" maple snare.

I also didn't particularly like the bronze snare I played a long time ago either. Nice sound, but recorded, it sounded...different. Not bad, it just didn't do it for me.

With that said, since you also play a lot of blues, what are the specs on your snare? I'm sure you posted them somewhere but I haven't seen it.

It may take a while, I would like to add to my snare arsenal something like you described. I really love the tone of maple. Perhaps something in a 6.5" depth. Any suggestions?
 

larryace

"Uncle Larry"
My Guru In-Tense snare is 14 X 5.75 made from ash. I prefer a deeper 7 inch, but honestly, if I never got one I would be very satisfied with this drum. My maple drum is a thick shell, like about an inch thick, and it's 14 X 6.5. Still a great drum. Yea the recorder is the decider.
 
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