OK, so I swapped my snare batter hoop for an "S" Hoop on batter side. Wow!!!! Love em!!!! Perfect cross-sticks every time,Nice and beefy and most of all...consistent!!!!! So I ordered and just got S Hoops for my tom batters also. Can't wait!!!! I'm also recovering my drums in a curly maple fade. Will post pics, but bottom line, S Hoops are heavy, level, and straight and are a GREAT alternative to basic 2.3 mm hoops and die cast- they are a perfect marriage of them both. Great hoops man!!!!!!