I'd also probably argue that using something like an Ambassador/G1 batter would require less force for the drum to open up and resonate than like a 2 ply batter.Yeah, by "gear" I meant light sticks, dampening rings and thin cymbals.
As far as tuning, I have trouble playing a super tight snare quietly.
There's that mindset I was referring to.Sure, ....with an E kit
With a car, it's only one control to turn it up/down. With drums it's a combination of several things like tuning, gear and dynamics.
In my experience, they don't even care if we play correctly . As long as we keep decent tempo and don't play too loud, everyone I've played with has always been happy .....or obliviousI don't think too many other musicians care about the overall sound of our drums as long as we are plying them correctly.
Sure, ....with an E kitIf I have a super fast car, I can still drive it slowly. Same exact thing with drum volume
I hate to say it but this here speaks volumes (no pun intended). If it is to the point where you just want to forget the whole thing, the only way to make that happen is to move on.I did not reply all week because I was trying to forget about this problem. But, later today we have practice.
Mad props to you for being considerate in this situation! Very frustrating.The guitar player, adjusts his sound in a combination of volume and gain, and pedals, and tries to get the right sound out of his rig and he gets very serious trying to get "the right sound."
I don't think too many other musicians care about the overall sound of our drums as long as we are plying them correctly. It really drives me nuts that when I hit the ride cymbal, the cymbal itself sounds so bad. I also feel that as a drummer we have to make more sacrifices then other members of the band. Am I wrong in this observation?
I agree with makinao. I play with 2 very different sounding bands and for the more quieter band I often use Pro-Mark 7A's, they have a light touch and still feel good;muffling the drums is unnecessary.It would be easier if I can play with wire brushes, or nylon brushes, but they are requesting that I use sticks. At this volume, I have to choke the stick and not let it bounce. I am playing the snare near the rim. The hats have be played on the bow with bead of the stick.
Dude, you need a hug. I commend you greatly on trying to make this work.I thank you all for the very generous discussion. I am thinking of walking away too.
It is an old CB kit, 12, 13 toms. I installed legs on the 13 and use it as a floor tom. The bass is 22x16, and placed a large 66" x 5" foam up against the batter. 16" old heavy Zildjian for a ride, and a cracked 15" Paiste crash. The toms and cymbals are tapped, and only a little tape on the snare.
I thank you all for the very generous discussion. I am thinking of walking away too.I would step away from the band, because my personality would not put up with such neutering.
We do deserve to play good sounding instruments. But short that, what we do is not sound dependent. Sure we all want to sound a certain way. But many times (backline or practice kits) that's just not possible. The groove isn't affected unless the drummer allows crap tones to ruin their high.I don't disagree with anything you say, Larry... but gosh darn it, drummers deserve to play a good-sounding instrument too! It's always much easier to feel a good groove on my nice Ludwigs than on the entry-level, taped-up crap in a guitarist's basement...
IDK, inspiration....when the drums don't sound good, inspiration shouldn't suffer. I like playing awesome sounding drums as much as the next guy, but when that's not there, we still have to play. So the only thing to do is ignore the tone and focus on the timing, dynamics, musicality etc. There really isn't any other choice except to allow it to hamstring the player.I agree to a point.
When the instrument does not make a good sound, one cannot become inspired. It actually deters inspiration, IMO.
No other musician in the band would accept a poorly tuned instrument (e.g., guitar, bass, keys) and no one would accept a poorly voiced vocal.
The hypocrisy can cause bitterness.
But this is for rehearsal, so let it slide. I hope the OP is allowed to use his instrument tuned and set up the way he prefers it for performances.