Newbie chick drummer... help!

hey everybody,

I'm an 18 yr old chick, primarily play bass in a small "jam" band... 3 guitars and a drummer. I've been playing for 2 yrs, and played a little guitar before that. I started taking drum lessons and in total have about an hour and a half on a real kit... I know its a little quick to get into this all but I REALLY enjoy drumming.

I'm looking for some tips in selecting a drum kit. I've been looking on craigslist for a LONG time now and haven't really seen any "great" deals IMO so I've started looking on Musicians Friend and other misc sites. My max budget is about $500 at the moment. If I hold off for another month or two I may be able to get more than that (which I know would be a big help in getting decent gear...)

So far I've been looking at this kit, http://drums-percussion.musiciansfriend.com/product/Pulse-Pro-5Piece-Drum-Set-with-Cymbals-and-Black-Hardware-?sku=445369 figuring I could upgrade to new cymbals and heads in a few months (I really like the Sabian's I play when I'm at my lessons but don't have much experience with anything else, are Sabian good for the money?) and some Remo heads.

otherwise I've been looking at Scratch and dent, http://drums-percussion.musiciansfriend.com/product/Pearl-Vision-VX925FSP-5Pc-Shell-Pack-RB-Blue-Scratch-n-Dent?sku=582624 , but then I would need to spend more than my budget off the bat getting hardware and cymbals...

Could someone point me in the right direction? I totally understand $500 is very low but I'm hoping I can get decent sound in that price range.

Thanks for your help in advance!

Also, if it matters I like classic rock bands.
 

Vipercussionist

Silver Member
hey everybody,

I'm an 18 yr old chick, primarily play bass in a small "jam" band... 3 guitars and a drummer. I've been playing for 2 yrs, and played a little guitar before that. I started taking drum lessons and in total have about an hour and a half on a real kit... I know its a little quick to get into this all but I REALLY enjoy drumming.

I'm looking for some tips in selecting a drum kit. I've been looking on craigslist for a LONG time now and haven't really seen any "great" deals IMO so I've started looking on Musicians Friend and other misc sites. My max budget is about $500 at the moment. If I hold off for another month or two I may be able to get more than that (which I know would be a big help in getting decent gear...)

So far I've been looking at this kit, http://drums-percussion.musiciansfriend.com/product/Pulse-Pro-5Piece-Drum-Set-with-Cymbals-and-Black-Hardware-?sku=445369 figuring I could upgrade to new cymbals and heads in a few months (I really like the Sabian's I play when I'm at my lessons but don't have much experience with anything else, are Sabian good for the money?) and some Remo heads.

otherwise I've been looking at Scratch and dent, http://drums-percussion.musiciansfriend.com/product/Pearl-Vision-VX925FSP-5Pc-Shell-Pack-RB-Blue-Scratch-n-Dent?sku=582624 , but then I would need to spend more than my budget off the bat getting hardware and cymbals...

Could someone point me in the right direction? I totally understand $500 is very low but I'm hoping I can get decent sound in that price range.

Thanks for your help in advance!

Also, if it matters I like classic rock bands.
If they cost that much when NEW, think of how cheap you could buy them if they were USED!!

BIG $$$$$ Savings!!!!!!!

I think you see where I'm going with this.
 

canada_rokzz

Senior Member
If they cost that much when NEW, think of how cheap you could buy them if they were USED!!

BIG $$$$$ Savings!!!!!!!

I think you see where I'm going with this.
DITTO! I get almost all my gear used!

I did a couple random craigslist searches and found some examples for ya...

http://denver.craigslist.org/msg/1218321174.html
Brand new Tama Imperial Stars in boxes, but no cymbals... $375


http://denver.craigslist.org/msg/1177896905.html

Yamaha Custom Stage Drum Set - $500 and taking offers...


http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/msg/1223713015.html

Pearl Export 5 Piece Drum Set Complete - $375

http://montreal.en.craigslist.ca/msg/1213013040.html
Black Ludwig Accent CS LC105 #1 (5 piece set) - $485

http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/msg/1225346754.html
4 piece ludwig with 2 AAXplosions and DB pedal - $450

Don't spend your hard earned cash on some junky drums that you will regret. Get something used, and you will:

  1. Save money
  2. Get better gear than you could otherwise afford
  3. Be putting money into the hands of other people, not just Corperate America (or Canada, or other... hahaha)
  4. You won't have a ton of cash invested if you decided in three months that this was a mistake (although you wont cause drumming ROKZZ!!!!)

Hope this helps send you in the right direction!
Joe
 

harryconway

Platinum Member
Welcome to Drummerworld. Search through the threads here, lots of "looking for a new kit" info to be found. The Vision "scratch and dent" is a much better choice than the Pulse, of the 2 choices you posted. Look on eBay. A lot of people are sellin' right now.
 

eddiehimself

Platinum Member
I couldn't agree more with the buy used philosiphy. The other thing is buy the actual drum shells first. You should think about just getting a nice solid set of drums first, the cymbals and hardware can come in later.
 

mrchattr

Gold Member
I agree with what everyone else said. First of all stay away from Pulse Percussion. They are horrible kits. They sound and feel so bad, I know a person who was turned off from playing because of them. Of everything I have ever played, I can honestly say they are the worst.

Buying used is awesome, and the way to go.

With that said, in drumming, you get what you pay for. You wouldn't want to start with a three-string bass, would you? If you can find a way to hold off until you save up another couple hundred bucks, you can actually get yourself a really decent kit right off the bat. Keep looking at CL, keep looking at eBay, and save up a little money, and you can probably get a good kit and a few cheap but decent cymbals for around $650 to $700.

You said that in a few months you'd be able to upgrade your heads and cymbals. One of the biggest rookie mistakes drummers make is buying cheap, then upgrading all the time. In the end, you spend way more than you could have if you just waited, saved up, and bought used.
 
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freestylin599

Guest
ok so i will tell you what i did and you can try this too. Look on ebay for cymbals you will find shit cymbals sift through those till you find a good set of zildjian zbt's or paiste pst3's. i got my paiste pst 3's (pair of hats and a crash ride) for 90 bux and that included shipping. Next go to your local drum store, ie if you dont have one go to craig's list and maybe musciansfriend.

musicians friend is having a deal right now there is a pulse hardware set for 99 bux, yes stay away from their drums but their hardware is ok.

90-cymbals
99-hardware http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Pulse-5Piece-Hardware-Pack?sku=444057

yo are up to 190 bucks so now find yourself a 300 shell kit and you're golden

http://drums-percussion.musiciansfriend.com/product/PDP-Z5-5Piece-Shell-Pack?sku=483477

http://drums-percussion.musiciansfriend.com/product?sku=582809

there you go two choices
 

EEEE

Junior Member
I suggest buy used like everyone said, but if you have to or want to buy new, save up a bit first. A better/more expensive drumkit will last you longer than a cheap 400 dollar one and will probably save you money later. Same goes with cymbals, stock cymbals on cheap drumkits arent really that great...
 

eddiehimself

Platinum Member
ok so i will tell you what i did and you can try this too. Look on ebay for cymbals you will find shit cymbals sift through those till you find a good set of zildjian zbt's or paiste pst3's. i got my paiste pst 3's (pair of hats and a crash ride) for 90 bux and that included shipping. Next go to your local drum store, ie if you dont have one go to craig's list and maybe musciansfriend.

musicians friend is having a deal right now there is a pulse hardware set for 99 bux, yes stay away from their drums but their hardware is ok.

90-cymbals
99-hardware http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Pulse-5Piece-Hardware-Pack?sku=444057

yo are up to 190 bucks so now find yourself a 300 shell kit and you're golden

http://drums-percussion.musiciansfriend.com/product/PDP-Z5-5Piece-Shell-Pack?sku=483477

http://drums-percussion.musiciansfriend.com/product?sku=582809

there you go two choices
That doesn't seem like much kit for 700 bucks to me if i'm honest.
 

Vipercussionist

Silver Member
ok so i will tell you what i did and you can try this too. Look on ebay for cymbals you will find shit cymbals sift through those till you find a good set of zildjian zbt's or paiste pst3's. i got my paiste pst 3's (pair of hats and a crash ride) for 90 bux and that included shipping. Next go to your local drum store, ie if you dont have one go to craig's list and maybe musciansfriend.

musicians friend is having a deal right now there is a pulse hardware set for 99 bux, yes stay away from their drums but their hardware is ok.

90-cymbals
99-hardware http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Pulse-5Piece-Hardware-Pack?sku=444057

yo are up to 190 bucks so now find yourself a 300 shell kit and you're golden

http://drums-percussion.musiciansfriend.com/product/PDP-Z5-5Piece-Shell-Pack?sku=483477

http://drums-percussion.musiciansfriend.com/product?sku=582809

there you go two choices
That doesn't seem like much kit for 700 bucks to me if i'm honest.
$700?? Where'd you get that amount???

Yeah, but it's pretty good for around $500, those PDP by DW will do just fine.
 
Whoa! Thanks for all the replies everyone! I've been doing a lot more research on craigslist and found a kit for $450....

1- Paiste 400 14” High Hat w/ Stand
1- Paiste 400 18” Crash/Ride Cymbal w/ Stand
1- Pearl Export Series Base Drum
1- Pearl Export Series Floor Tom
1- Pearl Export Series Medium Tom
1- Pearl Export Series High Tom
1- Pearl Export Series WA Snare Drum (Silver) w/ Stand
1- Pearl Base Drum Pedal
1- Pair of Vic Firth American Classic 7A Drum Sticks
1- Pair of Vic Firth .580” Diameter White Drum Sticks
1- Pair of Brand New Black Hard Rock Sydney Drum Sticks
1- TAMA adjustable drum throne
8- SoundOff Drum Set Silencers

Is this a good deal? Guy claims its 8 yrs old 1 owner but was only played for three and then just sat in his house... any problems with it being 8 yrs old?

I feel like a dork for being so helpless with all these questions but we all gotta start somewhere, right?

thanks so much everyone!
 
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Mediocrefunkybeat

Guest
For that kind of money, that's a pretty decent deal. Not sure what the cymbals are like, but they are an older Paiste line. For the money, that's a good set and the hardware is good quality too if it is Pearl.
 

Vipercussionist

Silver Member
Whoa! Thanks for all the replies everyone! I've been doing a lot more research on craigslist and found a kit for $450....

1- Paiste 400 14” High Hat w/ Stand
1- Paiste 400 18” Crash/Ride Cymbal w/ Stand
1- Pearl Export Series Base Drum
1- Pearl Export Series Floor Tom
1- Pearl Export Series Medium Tom
1- Pearl Export Series High Tom
1- Pearl Export Series WA Snare Drum (Silver) w/ Stand
1- Pearl Base Drum Pedal
1- Pair of Vic Firth American Classic 7A Drum Sticks
1- Pair of Vic Firth .580” Diameter White Drum Sticks
1- Pair of Brand New Black Hard Rock Sydney Drum Sticks
1- TAMA adjustable drum throne
8- SoundOff Drum Set Silencers

Is this a good deal? Guy claims its 8 yrs old 1 owner but was only played for three and then just sat in his house... any problems with it being 8 yrs old?

I feel like a dork for being so helpless with all these questions but we all gotta start somewhere, right?

thanks so much everyone!
Don't feel like a dork, no one STARTS OUT knowin' all this stuff, it comes with YEARS of doing it.

Yeah, that's a good deal. it has everything you'll need, so you won't HAVE to spend any more money to get playing.

You can add stuff later if you want or need to.
 

caddywumpus

Platinum Member
Since you are a newbie drummer, I see nothing wrong with buying a "newbie" kit. Sure, there are those to stay away from (any kit that you can buy new for less than $350 is a good indication of what NOT to buy). Get yourself a decent beginner's kit, used, and save up some money for some decent cymbals. You can always tune your newbie kit to sound semi-newbie, but your cymbals are always going to sound the way they do.

In my neck of the woods, I've seen some great deals on beginner kits with decent cymbals for under $500.

Here are some kits to stay away from...
Rockwood
Pulse
Sound Percussion
Percussion Plus
Pearl Export EX

And cymbals to try to avoid...
Sabian B8
Zildjian ZBT or ZXT

Try to find a Tama Rockstar, Ludwig Accent, or Pearl Export (NOT EX) with some Zildjian A or Sabian AA cymbals. You should be able to find something under $700, if not for under $500.

Good luck! Let us know what you get...
 
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freestylin599

Guest
Since you are a newbie drummer, I see nothing wrong with buying a "newbie" kit. Sure, there are those to stay away from (any kit that you can buy new for less than $350 is a good indication of what NOT to buy). Get yourself a decent beginner's kit, used, and save up some money for some decent cymbals. You can always tune your newbie kit to sound semi-newbie, but your cymbals are always going to sound the way they do.

In my neck of the woods, I've seen some great deals on beginner kits with decent cymbals for under $500.

Here are some kits to stay away from...
Rockwood
Pulse
Sound Percussion
Percussion Plus
Pearl Export EX

And cymbals to try to avoid...
Sabian B8
Zildjian ZBT or ZXT

Try to find a Tama Rockstar, Ludwig Accent, or Pearl Export (NOT EX) with some Zildjian A or Sabian AA cymbals. You should be able to find something under $700, if not for under $500.

Good luck! Let us know what you get...
for a newbie drummer zildjian zbt and zxt are fine, some b8's are ok and rockwoods are great sets for the prices i have sat behind one a couple times and as long as you through emperors on the bottom and pinstripes on the top they sound great. the cymbals are shit though
 

ermghoti

Silver Member
Thanks again for the quick replies and the opinions!

Here are two pictures of the kit...




doesn't look severely beaten to me! hah
That's definitely an official Craigslist photo as well.

Not a terrible deal, but you may want to upgrade the cymbals pretty soon. I'd keep an eye out for cheap used Zildjian A's, Sabian AA's, and Paiste 2oo2's. These are all stereotyoical cymbals of good quality, that have been in production a long time. You can pick off a crash, ride and hats for $300-350 pretty easily, and it's unlikely they'll sound offensive. In time you may come to prefer other cymbals, but those won't hurt you, unlike a lot of the beginner/bargain stuff out there.
 

timmdrum

Silver Member
Those fake long lugs [actually two short lugs with a long piece that sits under the short ones, for a long lug appearance but no other function] make me think the kit is older than 8 years, although I'm not quite sure when Pearl stopped with those. I'm thinking mid-90's...?
 
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