More "crack" from the snare

AudioWonderland

Silver Member
After much experimentation I found a tuning setup for my kit that has all 5 toms at nice musical intervals that does not cause snare rattle and what is a good snare sound. As usual, over time I have become less than enamored with the snare sound. I t needs more crack.

I think the answer to more "crack" and "snap" in the snare is to tighten up the bottom head. Any aother thoughts on achieving that?

I will have to rework my tom tunings a little bit but I am OK with that. The snare sound is more important and I am certain I can adjust the toms accordingly.
 

caddywumpus

Platinum Member
More "crack" has to do with how you hit it. Rimshots are paramount here. You can have a deeply-tuned snare with buzzy snares with lots of "crack".

As for "snap", it conveys to me a more dry sound..."tighter" and "crisp", as it were. That has to do with tuning the bottom head and snare tension.

If you wanted more "pop", I'd say tune the top head into the stratosphere.

...and there you have Caddywumpus' "snap, crack, and pop" philosophy of snare tuning™. That'll be $50 for the lesson! :D
 

larryace

"Uncle Larry"
Snap crack and pop, pretty funny stuff there Caddy, yuk yuk.

When I think of crack, I think piccolo snare drum as an extreme example. I'm not sure if that is your description of crack
How deep is the snare drum Audio?
Perhaps you want a thinner snare drum?
 

Deathmetalconga

Platinum Member
Snap crack and pop, pretty funny stuff there Caddy, yuk yuk.

When I think of crack, I think piccolo snare drum as an extreme example. I'm not sure if that is your description of crack
How deep is the snare drum Audio?
Perhaps you want a thinner snare drum?
A shallower, thicker shell with thick heads tuned tight will give the most crack. That's how my snare is and it has more crack than a plumber's butt.
 

Pocket-full-of-gold

Platinum Member
A shallower, thicker shell with thick heads tuned tight will give the most crack. That's how my snare is and it has more crack than a plumber's butt.
Agreed....batter tuned reasonably tight and reso tuned tighter again is how I achieve my best crack.

More crack than Harlem is the term we use here DMC. No disrespect to anyone from the famous borough intended!!
 

keep it simple

Platinum Member
Agree with Caddy, DMC & PFG here. I use a piccolo snare & my snare cuts through just about anything. I played a gig last week & a local muso commented on the great band sound balance but thought the snare was a bit high in the mix. He was very surprised when I told him the snare was the only thing not mic'd on the stage.

Anyhow, try using a head with reverse centre dot to give you a range of flavours, especially with a snare in a high state of tune. This will offer real focus to the centre of the head but nice sustain / ring towards the edge. Cast hoops really help here too. Not only do you get finer tuning control but the rimshots are highlighted superbly. If you play anything other than light jazz, use a hazy 300 reso head & tune it circa 1/2 octave above the batter head. Then loosen the lugs either side of the snare wires by about 1/2 a turn each. This will reduce snare buzz but still give you a nice high pop to the drum.

Every drum has it's choke point. Start by tensioning the batter head evenly then raising the tuning by a 1/2 turn each time. Try the head at each stage to check for tone & volume. Eventually you'll reach a point where the volume of the drum reduces and gives you a "bonk" type response. This is the choke point. Wind the batter head down until you get a good volume and return of tone from the shell. Then wind the reso head up in the same manner with the snares engaged under a medium tension. As you raise the reso head tuning, you'll eventually reach a point where the snares are no longer obvious in the sound mix. This is the effective choke point of the reso head. Again, wind it back down until a good level of snare wire snap is audible. Once you've been through this process, you have a pretty good idea of the tuning envelope of the drum & head combination. From that baseline, you can experiment with different tension combinations until you get the sound you're after.

If you give us a bit more info about your drum & head specs, we might be able to advise you more accurately. It's all subjective and a personal choice thing anyhow. There's very few golden rules in drumming. Good luck.
 
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MisterMixelpix

Silver Member
I have my batter head tuned until the keys can't move, and the reso head at about half tension. Tons of pop and crack, not too much ring.
 

larryace

"Uncle Larry"
Snap crack and pop?
More crack than a plumbers butt?
More crack than Harlem?
Where have I been, these are all new to me.
 

larryace

"Uncle Larry"
There's volcanos in Iceland? Wouldn't they melt the ice?

The Grand Canyon crack thing totally went by me, I knew I would need those brain cells.

Curse you 1970's
 

Moldy

Silver Member
Agreed....batter tuned reasonably tight and reso tuned tighter again is how I achieve my best crack.

More crack than Harlem is the term we use here DMC. No disrespect to anyone from the famous borough intended!!
Harlem isn't a borough.

Tune the top head to a medium tension, the bottom head lower, and tighten your snares alot. You'll have a crisp crack that's sensitive. For steel, anyway.
 

wordword

Senior Member
I posted a couple questions on different forums with this same exact question.

i have too much ring in my snare and just want a more shallow CRACK with no ringy overtomes.

i'm trying the evans genera dry to achieve this sound on a tama artwood. hope for good results ( i should know within a couple weeks...just waiting on stuff to arrive)
 

BOOMBOXNOTATOY

Junior Member
I've always gone for that "Crack" and "Snap" sound with my snare, but I always found that when I tightened my batter head to the point where I almost couldn't turn the drum key anymore the snare would only give me that "Crack" sound for maybe a quick practice session. Then somewhere through another session I'd lose that sound because the head actually seperated from the metal ring that gives the head it's round shape. The head wouldn't hold tension after that. Wasted a snare head or 2 that way. So be careful if you go that route. I don't recommend it anymore haha.
 
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