Lou Reed and Metallica song released...

fixxxer

Senior Member
I want to keep loving Metalllica......I want to keep loving Metallica.....I WANT to keep loving Metallica...........


sigh
:(
 

Toolate

Platinum Member
They definitely do not suck .... Saw them light a stage hand on fire during a guitar solo. That is not something that sucks .

Ever hear their coors llight song?.
 

Pocket-full-of-gold

Platinum Member
They definitely do not suck ....
Yes, I remember a time (say from '83 to around '89) where they ruled the underground airwaves. The "big 4" metal bands were everything to young metalheads in my part of the world.

I agree their recent efforts aren't up to par with what came before, but nonetheless it's sad to see them totally dismissed, scorned and ridiculed these days. They were the pioneers of modern metal. No Metallica, no Maiden, no Slayer et al.....and these cats today just wouldn't sound the same.

That said, I do hope this is the last of the collaborative efforts between Lou Reed and Metallica. ;-)
 

Hewn

Member
I actually like this. Nice drums, nice riff, and James voice is sounding nice too. The only bit I dont like is the title, it keeps reminding me of the damn tv show.
 

Pollyanna

Platinum Member
Not at all into metal but I'm curious about why Lars's drumming is so ridiculed. He's not as crisp as most pro metal players but he rocks hard and his parts work with the song.

I like lots of Lou Reed music but there's nothing here for me. Sound like the guys were trying out something different. Why not try it out? Nothing to lose and you never know ...
 

Andy@MIT

Senior Member
It is what it is... a ballsy, "artsy" collaboration between artists that represent two completely different genres (if not more). Given the text that led into the song in the video, I am guessing that the whole album needs a listen straight through to make any proper sorts of judgements.

Metallica has been and always will be one of my favorite bands and I applaud them for going out on a limb, even if I don't like the execution presented in this track.
 

Duckenheimer

Senior Member
Not at all into metal but I'm curious about why Lars's drumming is so ridiculed. He's not as crisp as most pro metal players but he rocks hard and his parts work with the song.

I like lots of Lou Reed music but there's nothing here for me. Sound like the guys were trying out something different. Why not try it out? Nothing to lose and you never know ...
Lars is generally good. Usually he functions great with James' rhythm guitar. His drumming on the 2nd - 4th albums in particularly was clever, and rocked, and hugely influential on metal.

But his drumming for St Anger did not work well within the songs and riffs (the most expensive and contrived attempt at sounding "garage" in history?) and he played badly at some gigs for a while. He just didn't maintain the rather basic level of chops needed and literally - at least some nights - couldn't play his own songs.
 

Chaos_Inferno

Silver Member
Yes, I remember a time (say from '83 to around '89) where they ruled the underground airwaves. The "big 4" metal bands were everything to young metalheads in my part of the world.

I agree their recent efforts aren't up to par with what came before, but nonetheless it's sad to see them totally dismissed, scorned and ridiculed these days. They were the pioneers of modern metal. No Metallica, no Maiden, no Slayer et al.....and these cats today just wouldn't sound the same.

That said, I do hope this is the last of the collaborative efforts between Lou Reed and Metallica. ;-)
My problem with Metallica is how they're labeled as pioneers of thrash and such... when they play at about half the speed of your average thrash band, which normally I wouldn't bring up but thrash is pretty much by definition supposed to be fast... always was, still is. The half-blasts that make up most of the drumming bled into death and black metal and gave us blast beats, but half the riffing style and composition isn't thrash in the slightest from Metallica. I'm not really a big Slayer fan, but at least Slayer used to be some pretty legitimate thrash. The style predated all of the big 4, they're simply known as that because they found a niche market and found wild popularity that propelled them to musical stardom beyond just metal. Pretty much everyone knows them even if they're not metal fans.

I tend to agree with them helping shape the foundation of metal and being an influence for a large number of bands (I think Slayer was making music before Metallica was), but even Maiden is rather unique in what they did as far as the NWOBHM stuff goes. At least the egos and jackassery of Metallica convinced Mustaine to make Megadeth...

Anyways, I feel like that since they've been ridiculed for being too commercial since the Black album and whatnot they're finally trying something different rather than trying to half-ass their "throwback" sound like they've done for the past 20-ish years... and they've achieved different, alright.
 

shadowlorde

Senior Member
My problem with Metallica is how they're labeled as pioneers of thrash and such... when they play at about half the speed of your average thrash band, which normally I wouldn't bring up but thrash is pretty much by definition supposed to be fast... always was, still is. The half-blasts that make up most of the drumming bled into death and black metal and gave us blast beats, but half the riffing style and composition isn't thrash in the slightest from Metallica. I'm not really a big Slayer fan, but at least Slayer used to be some pretty legitimate thrash. The style predated all of the big 4, they're simply known as that because they found a niche market and found wild popularity that propelled them to musical stardom beyond just metal. Pretty much everyone knows them even if they're not metal fans.

I tend to agree with them helping shape the foundation of metal and being an influence for a large number of bands (I think Slayer was making music before Metallica was), but even Maiden is rather unique in what they did as far as the NWOBHM stuff goes. At least the egos and jackassery of Metallica convinced Mustaine to make Megadeth...



Anyways, I feel like that since they've been ridiculed for being too commercial since the Black album and whatnot they're finally trying something different rather than trying to half-ass their "throwback" sound like they've done for the past 20-ish years... and they've achieved different, alright.

i have to disagree ... kill 'em all up to ...justice were pure thrash .. look at a lot of the other bands at the time .. anthrax, exodus, testament ... most early thrash was not as fast .. slayer's 1st album http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAwlm-rJuM0 .. not much faster than metallica's hit the lights, motorbreath... just throwin it out there ...


but onto that lou reed thing ... to quote llamas with hats " that was horrifying to watch"
 

8Mile

Platinum Member
I loved St. Anger. It's probably my favorite Metallica tune.

Let the flaming begin.
 

Andy@MIT

Senior Member
I loved St. Anger. It's probably my favorite Metallica tune.

Let the flaming begin.
Album version or the version from the DVD (or was it a video CD) that was included with the album purchase, which had MUCH better mixing / mastering AND drum sounds?
 
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