I have to listen to everyone else...that's how I feel what to play. I get ideas based on what the others are playing. I can't imagine doing it any other way.
Your question is not really related to the original question of this thread.It appears&seems to me that WHAT i asked is NOT what's being discussed in this thread!
Exactly. One of many reasons I love this guy.Here is Stewart Copeland's thoughts on this (Play outside your horse! Love it!):
You once talked about "playing outside your instrument." When did you come up with this idea, and can you speak about what it means to you?
"It came to me when I was playing polo – you 'play outside your horse.' If you're thinking about your horse and your equestrian skills, and things like proper riding and hitting the ball, let alone playing the game and putting your horse in the right place on the field…
"See, you shouldn't even be thinking about the horse. You have to be outside the horse. Your body and horse are one. You shouldn't be thinking about riding. You have to think, 'Here's the ball. I need to get it there. I need to stop that guy from getting to the ball. Uh-oh, there's a pass and that's where I gotta be.' When you do that, you're thinking outside your horse. You're playing the game.
"Put this to music: The mechanics of playing an instrument should be furthest from your mind. You've got to think outside your instrument, play outside your instrument. You've got to think about the music: 'What is the music? Where are the other players are? What's going on? Where's the groove?' - things like that. What drum you're hitting, what your technique is – that should be completely subliminal."
Tell him/her/them to fuck off. Find other people to play with. And get back behind the kit.For the 1st time since being a member of this site/forum ,
I'm going to make this question which i desperately seek sn answer short sweet&to the point.When a artist/band/musician questions both your professional integrity playing expereince ,
& attacks you personally how do you "let go"& focus on whether or not you still WANT to be a drummer?.
That is wonderful, obviously. Following the instructions (i.e. playing the notes on the page correctly) is not music making. If you include music making in your definition of "getting it right", then you are going to make music. IMHO this is ideal, in fact.I'll toss another angle into it. Instead of "letting go", what about taking over and owning it? Using the example of the player who intellectually plays all the right notes as written, and sounds mechanical and uninspired as a result. Someone might tell them to "let go", or "don't think so much".
Whereas, if the player puts their all into owning the notes, playing them as expressively as they can, while concentrating on each one to make sure they made the most of it, then you get a different result. It becomes musical.
I used to play with a bass player who was fixated on playing everything "right". But right to him meant not only the right note in the right sequence, but exactly in the right place for the groove of the song. He didn't separate the notation from the music. Getting it right meant doing all of it.
The other day at a rehearsal, talking about using lyric sheets or iPads, a singer said she didn't like to listen to the original recording of a song very many times. She was afraid it would pollute her interpretation of it. This is in a cover band that otherwise plays things pretty much right off the record. She's a great singer and can really make you feel it. But I realized that she didn't understand separating content from delivery. She needed to totally get the content (lyrics) down cold so that she then had bandwidth to put herself into the delivery. Not letting go and doing whatever she felt like at the moment as the rest of the band is playing the structure of the song. She needs to have the structure on auto-pilot so that she can work her phrasing and dynamics in a musical interpretation that is completely deliberate.
...BUT HOW&WHAT to do when your dream gig goes down the toilet/(turns to shit another phrase/term) &you're "attacked" as a person &your playing ability/techincal ability.Even though you KNOW that WHAT'S required for the song is ABSOLUTELY DEFINTELY POSTIVELY the RIGHT part to play&which WORKS for the song!....
.2-3 weeks later&received message saying not only WASN'T she happy BUT quiestioned both my playing "experience" &playing ability asking WHY didn't i play a kick drum during the recording session? ....
Sorry to come late to this party/knife fight, but I wanted to echo and amplify philrudd's concise and excellent advice.Tell him/her/them to fuck off. Find other people to play with. And get back behind the kit.