Kick Drum Miking Question

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funkutron

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Yeah, I've played some of the bigger venues in Spokane (nearest city-ish area, lol) and the sound guys give you a sideways look when you show up unported. Show 'em the jack, ask to plug you in and give it a try, and there has never been a problem. Even the adamant port guys have been satisfied.

99% of the time we ran our own sound, and it just made life super easy there, too.
You're in SPOKANE!? So am I! Who are you? Maybe you'd like to try one of my pedals! Right now I play in YESTERDAYSCAKE. We just played Curley's!
 

IDDrummer

Platinum Member
Do you find you get enough attack with the Shue mounted close to the reso? I was wondering about that and maybe considering a May for the front to back adjustability, but the May is a lot more expensive.
Yes, I've been able to get enough attack. The Shu has a couple inches of front to back adjustability, and you can mount it to the reso or batter side lug screws. So, there is a fair amount of flexibility in placement, though it certainly isn't infinite.

I've had opportunities to hear my kit FOH and the kick is exactly what I hope for.

EDIT - this was recorded on a cheap old handycam and the sound isn't fantastic, but this will give you an idea of how the Shu setup sounds live.
https://youtu.be/W5pYySRbFaE
 
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Ghostnote

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Yeah, I've played some of the bigger venues in Spokane (nearest city-ish area, lol) and the sound guys give you a sideways look when you show up unported. Show 'em the jack, ask to plug you in and give it a try, and there has never been a problem. Even the adamant port guys have been satisfied.

99% of the time we ran our own sound, and it just made life super easy there, too.
Do you find you get enough attack with the Shue mounted close to the reso? I was wondering about that and maybe considering a May for the front to back adjustability, but the May is a lot more expensive.
 

IDDrummer

Platinum Member
This will be my eventual setup when I can afford to do so. Kinda takes the sound man getting pissed when you show up for a gig with a full front head thing out of the equation.
Yeah, I've played some of the bigger venues in Spokane (nearest city-ish area, lol) and the sound guys give you a sideways look when you show up unported. Show 'em the jack, ask to plug you in and give it a try, and there has never been a problem. Even the adamant port guys have been satisfied.

99% of the time we ran our own sound, and it just made life super easy there, too.
 
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Ghostnote

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This is my basic setup. If you don't want to drill the shell for the XLR jack, you can use a ported reso and run the cord in that way, or you cut the end off a cord, thread it through the vent hole, then re-solder the connector in place. I used that method for a few years before I installed that jack. It worked great, but you had to mind the cord when putting the drum into/out of cases. The jack makes life amazingly simple. Perfect live setup, IMO.
This will be my eventual setup when I can afford to do so. Kinda takes the sound man getting pissed when you show up for a gig with a full front head thing out of the equation.
 
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gf2564

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It's the way I go by default when I mic my own drums. Sound guys will usually mic the reso head, even though there's no port. It makes sense to me -- I would never mic a tom on the reso side.
I have been micing the batter side for years; always had good results. There were initial concerns about picking up possible noise from the pedal but I have never noticed any.
 

IDDrummer

Platinum Member
I've got the same kick mic and setup except I don't own a Shu yet and I use a SKII batter/Regulator'd Drumart head. If you have time can you post a pic or two to me how the Shu mount is setup and how the cord for the mic gets plugged in?
This is my basic setup. If you don't want to drill the shell for the XLR jack, you can use a ported reso and run the cord in that way, or you cut the end off a cord, thread it through the vent hole, then re-solder the connector in place. I used that method for a few years before I installed that jack. It worked great, but you had to mind the cord when putting the drum into/out of cases. The jack makes life amazingly simple. Perfect live setup, IMO.
 

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dcolter

Junior Member
I'm curious about this method too. That's what I used to do years ago, but haven't mic'd for a while. Anyone using batter side only mic?
It's the way I go by default when I mic my own drums. Sound guys will usually mic the reso head, even though there's no port. It makes sense to me -- I would never mic a tom on the reso side.
 

IDDrummer

Platinum Member
I've got the same kick mic and setup except I don't own a Shu yet and I use a SKII batter/Regulator'd Drumart head. If you have time can you post a pic or two to me how the Shu mount is setup and how the cord for the mic gets plugged in?
I use a similar setup. Will post pics when I get home. I installed and XLR jack in the shell, but you can run the cord through a port or the vent hole.
 

Trip McNealy

Gold Member
I run a D6 on a Shu mounted dead center and pointed at the beater. Absolutely slays our subwoofers. The consistency night after night is ridiculous. Any room, any temp, always ready for more. My 22" has a 4" port to access the short cord attached.

Head choice is paramount. I use an Emad and a DrumArt Aquarian Regulator reso. I've got center muffling on the reso where flutter can occur and I've got tone control on the batter where feel and give are critical.

Then a dogbone pillow not touching the heads to absorb reflections. I can take this formula to nearly any size and depth bass drum with near instant success.
I've got the same kick mic and setup except I don't own a Shu yet and I use a SKII batter/Regulator'd Drumart head. If you have time can you post a pic or two to me how the Shu mount is setup and how the cord for the mic gets plugged in?
 

IDDrummer

Platinum Member
That shouldn't happen at all, even if the mic is placed right in front of the hole.
It sounds like something an Ebay knockoff would do.
Yeah, my experience has been that they are usable right at the beater, right at the reso, or anywhere in relation to the port. Different sounds, for sure, but the mic never choked up.

I'm not necessarily recommending those positions, just saying they didn't cause trouble for the mic.
 

WallyY

Platinum Member
That shouldn't happen at all, even if the mic is placed right in front of the hole.
It sounds like something an Ebay knockoff would do.
 

IDDrummer

Platinum Member
I've seen it happen with a Shure Beta 52 I think it was, you know, the fat one designed for kicks, the one with the built in stand mount.
Interesting. I've used that mic but never had that happen.

Goes to show, you don't ever know. that's why I try stuff on my own, despite conventional wisdom! :)
 
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