If 'Bohemian Rhapsody' was released today...

Old Dog new Cans

Senior Member
So true. When I met my wife, my (step) daughter was 11. Only listened to like 5 things. Over and over and over. Being a music lover, she was forced to listen to whatever I wanted, and it was ugly at first.

Fast forward to a month ago. She comes up to me, and it goes like this:

Samena: Hey dad, I found this new song that I really like. It's really catchy and fun!
Me: Oh yeah, what is it?
Samena: It's called "9 to 5".
Me: (Uproarious laughter) That's a great song, but it isn't new. It's Dolly Parton, and is from like 1980.
Samena: Who cares, I still like it!

Now had I not met my wife, this poor girl would probably be stuck listening to the same 5 things for the rest of her life. Now she seeks out new music like a fiend. It's great, because she shares new stuff she likes with me, so I get to listen to and discover new music also. It's fantastic.
Absolutely yes. Great song, lol. Sometimes people simply need someone to show them something a little different. Get 'em out of their comfort zone.

There's just TOO MUCH GOOD music from 99' BACK, to ignore. And that's an entire century of music.
 

MrInsanePolack

Platinum Member
Good music, IS, good music. Younger people today, hopefully have someone older and knowledgeable in their life that turned them on to great music like Queen.
So true. When I met my wife, my (step) daughter was 11. Only listened to like 5 things. Over and over and over. Being a music lover, she was forced to listen to whatever I wanted, and it was ugly at first.

Fast forward to a month ago. She comes up to me, and it goes like this:

Samena: Hey dad, I found this new song that I really like. It's really catchy and fun!
Me: Oh yeah, what is it?
Samena: It's called "9 to 5".
Me: (Uproarious laughter) That's a great song, but it isn't new. It's Dolly Parton, and is from like 1980.
Samena: Who cares, I still like it!

Now had I not met my wife, this poor girl would probably be stuck listening to the same 5 things for the rest of her life. Now she seeks out new music like a fiend. It's great, because she shares new stuff she likes with me, so I get to listen to and discover new music also. It's fantastic.
 

Old Dog new Cans

Senior Member
Good music, IS, good music. Younger people today, hopefully have someone older and knowledgeable in their life that turned them on to great music like Queen.

I personally feel like there's just a loss of appreciation for quality today.

Lastly, if there was NO movie to go along with a "re-release" of the song, I don't think it would have re-entered the charts the same way. People like visual aides, (eyeroll).
 

Skate

Senior Member
Silly arguments are some of the best ones. And hypotheticals? where would we be without 'em?

Regarding Point 1. Nope - Queen always said 'no synths' on their records (back when one read album sleeves). Which means they wouldn't use Pro Tools or Autotune in 2019.

Regarding Point 2. BR was on their 4th album. already a large following and far from 'new'. Nobody waits for Gaga's latest to drop on YouTube.

And timing?....is everything.
You're right, the suggestion of Pro Tools and autotune is silly to be honest. A lot of people seem to think all music ever created in 2019 must be what's in the charts.
 

mrfingers

Senior Member
It’s the rediscovery of vocal harmonies, I think, after years of shouting, screaming, talking, moaning “rock” songsters.
 

larryace

"Uncle Larry"
If you are really hungry, the Mona Lisa can't help you, where as the mixer can.

I think I would prefer to chow down on the Mona Lisa than a mixer ha ha.

Oh but the Mona Lisa can absolutely help you if you're hungry. It all depends on individual perspective.

The way I see it, if you're hungry and you have the Mona Lisa and a mixer...

You could sell the Mona Lisa and have enough dough for all the food for the rest of your life see?

:)
 

MrInsanePolack

Platinum Member
When the the last time there was a line around the block to see your wifes Kitchen Aid. Seeing the Mona Lisa does a lot of people a lot of good. Depends on what you use to measure with. And in ten years, at the yard sale, the kitchen aid may get 10 dollars , Mona Lisa 10 million.

Following the Nov. 2 premiere of the new Bohemian Rhapsody biopic about the band and its late frontman Freddie Mercury, "Rhapsody" re-enters the Hot 100 (dated Nov. 17) at No. 33, as it blasts 36-5 on Digital Song Sales, up 236 percent to 24,000 sold, and returns to Streaming Songs at No. 41, surging by 77 percent to 13.3 million U.S. streams, according to Nielsen Music.
Nah, Kitchen-Aid isn't going anywhere. My mother in law has one that is over 50 years old. It's a $250 mixer, not some $30 junk.

As far as the Mona Lisa, it just does nothing for me. It's just a painting, that's all. I much prefer Bob Ross. But that's the cool thing, none of it matters. In the grand scheme of things, the mixer CAN have more value. If you are really hungry, the Mona Lisa can't help you, where as the mixer can.
 

GruntersDad

Administrator - Mayor
Depends on who you talk to. I don't think my wife would give up her Kitchen-Aid for the Mona Lisa. She uses it all the time, and the whole family benefits from it. The Mona Lisa has no use. Ergo mixer > Mona Lisa

Just sayin.
When the the last time there was a line around the block to see your wifes Kitchen Aid. Seeing the Mona Lisa does a lot of people a lot of good. Depends on what you use to measure with. And in ten years, at the yard sale, the kitchen aid may get 10 dollars , Mona Lisa 10 million.

Following the Nov. 2 premiere of the new Bohemian Rhapsody biopic about the band and its late frontman Freddie Mercury, "Rhapsody" re-enters the Hot 100 (dated Nov. 17) at No. 33, as it blasts 36-5 on Digital Song Sales, up 236 percent to 24,000 sold, and returns to Streaming Songs at No. 41, surging by 77 percent to 13.3 million U.S. streams, according to Nielsen Music.
 

MrInsanePolack

Platinum Member
There is zero comparison there. That's like comparing the Mona Lisa to a really great blender.
Depends on who you talk to. I don't think my wife would give up her Kitchen-Aid for the Mona Lisa. She uses it all the time, and the whole family benefits from it. The Mona Lisa has no use. Ergo mixer > Mona Lisa

Just sayin.
 

trickg

Silver Member
Remember that Bohemian Rhapsody was not a "hit" when it was released. Except for a very dedicated fan base that "got it," the song went largely unnoticed.

Until it was featured in the Wayne's World movie. That's when a musical masterpiece met a very popular movie. Only then did the song receive the widespread attention that it deserved.

GeeDeeEmm

https://decider.com/2019/02/05/waynes-world-bohemian-rhapsody-scene/
Based on their reaction, the Live Aid crowd in 1985 seemed to think that it was pretty special, and that was 7 years before Wayne's World hit the theaters. The whole crowd is singing along with him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A22oy8dFjqc
 

larryace

"Uncle Larry"
Putting technology, Commodore 64, up with an art form, Music, is a terrible analogy. Art is more emotional than technology.
I agree. Bohemian Rhapsody is actual art. It's stood the test of time. If the big picture is looked at, the C64 is just a minor blip on the screen in a never ending line of computer tech.

BR is true art that can't be diminished or reduced. It may not even be equaled, something that one cannot say about the C64.

There is zero comparison there. That's like comparing the Mona Lisa to a really great blender.

Laughable.
 

trickg

Silver Member
To quote Billy Joel's "The Entertainer":

It was a beautiful song
But it ran too long
If you're gonna have a hit
You gotta make it fit
So they cut it down to 3:05


I don't think "Bohemian Rhapsody" would become a hit if it was released today, and not only because it's too long. People are much more fickle about music now, and pop tunes seem to mostly be jammed into the same formulas and formats. It might do ok on an alternative rock radio station, but I don't think it would ever be mainstream.
 

GruntersDad

Administrator - Mayor
Putting technology, Commodore 64, up with an art form, Music, is a terrible analogy. Art is more emotional than technology.
 

toddmc

Gold Member
Question could also be..:

If being released today, would the Commodore 64 still become the most sold computer ever..?

Well, i guess not..
Haha- great analogy.
I was going to cite "Back to the Future" with Marty playing "Johnny B. Goode" only to be met with blank stares from 50's teens but yours works better.

Its hard to write a legacy song today. People move on very quickly. Is Smells Like Teen Spirit a legacy from the 90's. I would say so, being attached to the beginning of a new genre. Don't Believe the Hype fits that as well. But I don't know, is there a legacy song yet from the 2000's? ...its now nearly 20 years later.
Teen Spirit most definitely fits in the legacy category. I had to google "Hits from the 2000's" and there's not a single one there that I would consider being lauded through the generations (unless you think Hey-Ya stacks up against Bohemian Rhapsody) ; )

As far as trends go, when I think of the 2000's I think of the rise of "nu-metal/ rap metal" (and I'm sure as hell not putting Limp Bizkit on any legacy lists)!
 

opentune

Platinum Member
I most certainly DO NOT think that (how DARE you sir)??!! : )

Ok, lets' take how 2019 affects the recording of the song out the equation and assume that BR is released exactly as recorded in 1975 but released in 2019.

Everything else has still changed- the audience and the way music is marketed and distributed.
Yes even today's kiddies with their new-fangled music still love Queen but without that LEGACY over the years (as well as Queen's amazing body of work to back it up) I think the impact is severly diminished.

Would the song stand up on it's own merit in 2019? Absolutely it would!
But ask yourself: would it have the same impact in today's society without that legacy to support it?
Agree completely. And impact? as I posted above, its too bloody long for the average pop song of today. Really, as pointed out above, the new Hollywood movie on the band is the only reason for its resurgence.

As for legacy? I sadly think that most product today, including any kind of modern BR, would have a short shelf life, not for lack of quality but because everybody's memory is so short now in a rapidly uploaded/downloaded product heavy world. I think maybe a song has a chance of some legacy if attached to a movie soundtrack, but even then.
Its hard to write a legacy song today. People move on very quickly. Is Smells Like Teen Spirit a legacy from the 90's. I would say so, being attached to the beginning of a new genre. Don't Believe the Hype fits that as well. But I don't know, is there a legacy song yet from the 2000's? ...its now nearly 20 years later.
 
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toddmc

Gold Member
Do you really think that Freddie and his voice and the Queen harmonies would have needed auto tune?
I most certainly DO NOT think that (how DARE you sir)??!! : )
My point was just to illustrate that digital technology is available to them in 2019 and the possible impact it would have on the songs recording.

Silly arguments are some of the best ones. And hypotheticals? where would we be without 'em?

Regarding Point 1. Nope - Queen always said 'no synths' on their records (back when one read album sleeves). Which means they wouldn't use Pro Tools or Autotune in 2019.

Regarding Point 2. BR was on their 4th album. already a large following and far from 'new'. Nobody waits for Gaga's latest to drop on YouTube.

And timing?....is everything.
Ok, lets' take how 2019 affects the recording of the song out the equation and assume that BR is released exactly as recorded in 1975 but released in 2019.

Everything else has still changed- the audience and the way music is marketed and distributed.
Yes even today's kiddies with their new-fangled music still love Queen but without that LEGACY over the years (as well as Queen's amazing body of work to back it up) I think the impact is severly diminished.

Would the song stand up on it's own merit in 2019? Absolutely it would!
But ask yourself: would it have the same impact in today's society without that legacy to support it?
 

oldskoolsoul

Silver Member
I realise very well that most of the active members from this forum have grown up with Queen and all that other Classic Rock and that all that music is important to them..

But, with all respect, when people really think that Bohemian Rhapsody, being released today, would have any chance to even be heard by more than 50-100.000 people, then you definitely lost connection with the music world of today..

The only reason why Queen is in that Spotify list, is because of a hugely hyped-up movie release about a band we allready knew..Before that movie, among people under 30, no one cared about Bohemian Rhapsody and a few years from now also no one under 30 will care anymore about that song..Like, 5 years from now, Bohemian Rhapsody will for sure not be in that Top-100 list anymore..Thats not a question, thats just a simple fact..

Queen is not Twenty One Pilots..Or Ed Sheeran..Or Kendrick Lamar..Or Taylor Swift..Or Dua Lipa..Or Drake..or whatever artist from today..

Many of the members from this forum will almost throw up with those names, but those are people with 50-100.000.000 streams in a day..

I understand the nostalgia and the warm feelings that people have for certain songs, but to really think that a song like Bohemian Rhapsody, especially with the same 1975 production, would have any chance today, to me, is a little silly..

Question could also be..:

If being released today, would the Commodore 64 still become the most sold computer ever..?

Well, i guess not..
 
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opentune

Platinum Member
2 points to consider:

1. How the song would have been recorded in 2019:
As other people have mentioned, it would have almost certainly been done using ProTools and maybe even (God forbid) autotune. Who can say how this would affect the "magic" of the song?

2. The rise of the interwebs, music streaming, Spotify, etc:
Artists music can reach more people than ever before but it's very hard for new ones to cut through the deluge of content out there.
It's not out of the realm of possibility that Queen may have just uploaded a video clip on Youtube and called it good (where it may have gotten lost in the shuffle).
OK- for the sake of agument let's say that BR wasn't their first release and they had a decent following at the time (more hypotheticals) but my point still stands.

I submit to you that the TIMING of a songs release (along with a certain amount of resonance with the zeitgeist of the times) is just as important as it's sonic qualities.
Silly arguments are some of the best ones. And hypotheticals? where would we be without 'em?

Regarding Point 1. Nope - Queen always said 'no synths' on their records (back when one read album sleeves). Which means they wouldn't use Pro Tools or Autotune in 2019.

Regarding Point 2. BR was on their 4th album. already a large following and far from 'new'. Nobody waits for Gaga's latest to drop on YouTube.

And timing?....is everything.
 
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