Ian Paice

drums4nik

Junior Member
To say that all Paice does is single strokes is absolutely ridiculous. If you pay attention to any of the videos or DVDs of Ian with Deep Purple or otherwise you can see that he does much more than singles.

He makes heavy use of doubles and different versions of paradiddle.

This drum solo is a great example of what I'm talking about, and a lot of the fills that he does in the songs are reminiscent of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_-bT5Ig0oQ

On a side note I was privileged to have a brief encounter with Mr. Paice at the airport in Malta when Deep Purple played their only show there in 98. He signed my CD. The last time I saw Deep Purple was two years ago in Atlantic City and I managed to get a stick from Mr. Paice before they ran off stage.

The band that I currently play in plays mainly original material, but since we are all big Purple fans we usually close our shows with Black Night. Check it out at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpM2SFF27sM
 

bonzolead

Platinum Member
To say that all Paice does is single strokes is absolutely ridiculous. If you pay attention to any of the videos or DVDs of Ian with Deep Purple or otherwise you can see that he does much more than singles.

He makes heavy use of doubles and different versions of paradiddle.

This drum solo is a great example of what I'm talking about, and a lot of the fills that he does in the songs are reminiscent of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_-bT5Ig0oQ

On a side note I was privileged to have a brief encounter with Mr. Paice at the airport in Malta when Deep Purple played their only show there in 98. He signed my CD. The last time I saw Deep Purple was two years ago in Atlantic City and I managed to get a stick from Mr. Paice before they ran off stage.

The band that I currently play in plays mainly original material, but since we are all big Purple fans we usually close our shows with Black Night. Check it out at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpM2SFF27sM
You are a lucky man talking to Ian Paice and also having a stick of his very cool.

You're band does a good job on Black Night not too many bands jam that tune cool choice.

Keep Swattin'
Bonzolead
 
Comments from - Ian Paice - regarding, the recording an album now, very interesting:

The other thing is that people are getting very standardised in the sound that they are allowed to produce in the studio. Producers know that there is a certain sound you can get very easily and very quickly and that’s what they want you to go for. Again you have the same problem where the individuality has been taken out of it; it’s very hard to tell who’s playing anymore. To go back to one of the simplest examples, when Bonzo was playing you knew it was him, it was his sound, when Mitch Mitchell was playing, you knew it was him, it was his style, when Ginger Baker was playing, you knew it was Ginger because it was him. The standardisation of everything is making us lose our humanity and what makes those old records still interesting to kids today who weren’t even born when they were made, is that they have a human connection with the musician creating it. That’s all been taken away by the technologically perfect medium with which we are asked to create art now, the records are now perfect and they’re not as good.
 

bonzolead

Platinum Member
Another one of my favs......man I love his drum sound.....esp. his snare...great drummer!
How can you not like his snare sound, the old stuff he played a LM402 Ludwig just like Bonham great snare he does fantastic paradiddles and over the top press rolls the drum teacher who said all he does is single-strokes needs too look more into his work. he's not Gadd but I would like too see Gadd jam "Burn" Gadd is a great drummer but guarantee he wont sound like Paice. IMO Ian Paice IS the most under-rated drummer in Rock.

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Bonzolead
 

scorch whammin

Gold Member
How can you not like his snare sound, the old stuff he played a LM402 Ludwig just like Bonham great snare he does fantastic paradiddles and over the top press rolls the drum teacher who said all he does is single-strokes needs too look more into his work. he's not Gadd but I would like too see Gadd jam "Burn" Gadd is a great drummer but guarantee he wont sound like Paice. IMO Ian Paice IS the most under-rated drummer in Rock.

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Bonzolead
Yea I agree about the under-rated bit...def. a really good drummer, but I also don't think he's as good as bonzo (IMO).
 

bonzolead

Platinum Member
Yea I agree about the under-rated bit...def. a really good drummer, but I also don't think he's as good as bonzo (IMO).
Bonham will always be my Fav. no doubt I think Bonham popularity arise from not only being a great drummer but a total original no one like him kinda like Hendrix in a way, I've had the pleasure of seeing DP 4 times only once with Ritchie (Perfect Strangers tour) Ian totally killed it everytime I seen him through.

Bonzolead
 

Pachikara-Tharakan

Silver Member
Comments from - Ian Paice - regarding, the recording an album now, very interesting:

That’s all been taken away by the technologically perfect medium with which we are asked to create art now, the records are now perfect and they’re not as good.
fully agree, too much synthezized and programmed sound on Todays music, too perfect and too boring., doesnt sound real.
 

DrumEatDrum

Platinum Member
Seeing Ian Paice live with Deep Purple was awesome.

You really have to seem him to really appreciate his skill at the drum set.
 

gibsonrock53

Junior Member
The great Ian Paice. I think he is great, one of the greatest! I love the sound of his kit. I wish to see him play live. That would be amazing to see him live and then go home and try and play those songs. I could never play like him!
 
Had a chance to meet DP backstage in Colo Spgs in 02 . Glover,Gillan,Morse...No Ian Pace in sight .Was hoping to meet him..watching him perform was just as good. Amazing chops !! Machine Head Album .. What more can be said ?
 

donv

Silver Member
Bonham will always be my Fav. no doubt I think Bonham popularity arise from not only being a great drummer but a total original no one like him kinda like Hendrix in a way, I've had the pleasure of seeing DP 4 times only once with Ritchie (Perfect Strangers tour) Ian totally killed it everytime I seen him through.

Bonzolead
This Bonham Paice thing has come alot, and it's really apples and oranges.

Both are killer drummers, but Zepplin and Bonham played a variety of styles that Deep Purple never did. But I also think that John Paul Jones really made Bonham. Take away Jone's bass playing and what would Bonham have done? It's amazing how many think alot of Jones' bass playing is drums. Rock and Roll is a great example of this. I don't think I've ever heard anything from Bonham that wasn't with Zepplin so what could he have done without Jones? Paice has played with a lot of different musicians, but the music has been straight forward hard rock for the most part, so what else can he do? What would he do with the folk, country and acoustic stuff? We can assume a lot, but we'll never know any of this until it's done which is something Bonham can't do now.

One thing about both of them that makes them greats in my opinion is that they are both musicians and drummers. Not only could they both play fantastic grooves, but they also played them melodically. 2 Songs for Paice that I didn't see mentioned here are Hush and Woman From Tokyo. Listen to that chourus bridge thing in Hush, not only does Paice nail the rhythm, but he plays the melody while doing it. These guys didn't play drums, they played songs. Something that is sadly missing today in the mainstream.

I think Paice has missed the point when he talks about everybody sounding the same now. The drummers he mentions played at a time when drummers could be musicians more then they are allowed today. So much of rock is cookie cutter music to repeat was has been successful. Listen to top 40 radio today, and you're really listening to a half a dozen songs redone over and over. It's rare if not impossible for a top 40 group to step out of the box.
 

bonzolead

Platinum Member
This Bonham Paice thing has come alot, and it's really apples and oranges.

Both are killer drummers, but Zepplin and Bonham played a variety of styles that Deep Purple never did. But I also think that John Paul Jones really made Bonham. Take away Jone's bass playing and what would Bonham have done? It's amazing how many think alot of Jones' bass playing is drums. Rock and Roll is a great example of this. I don't think I've ever heard anything from Bonham that wasn't with Zepplin so what could he have done without Jones? Paice has played with a lot of different musicians, but the music has been straight forward hard rock for the most part, so what else can he do? What would he do with the folk, country and acoustic stuff? We can assume a lot, but we'll never know any of this until it's done which is something Bonham can't do now.

One thing about both of them that makes them greats in my opinion is that they are both musicians and drummers. Not only could they both play fantastic grooves, but they also played them melodically. 2 Songs for Paice that I didn't see mentioned here are Hush and Woman From Tokyo. Listen to that chourus bridge thing in Hush, not only does Paice nail the rhythm, but he plays the melody while doing it. These guys didn't play drums, they played songs. Something that is sadly missing today in the mainstream.

I think Paice has missed the point when he talks about everybody sounding the same now. The drummers he mentions played at a time when drummers could be musicians more then they are allowed today. So much of rock is cookie cutter music to repeat was has been successful. Listen to top 40 radio today, and you're really listening to a half a dozen songs redone over and over. It's rare if not impossible for a top 40 group to step out of the box.
You're right it's like comparing apples to oranges i've always said there is something in the water over there(England) Cozy,Bonham,Ginger,Moon,Ward,Paice,Palmer just too name a few. I've heard recordings with Lord Sutch with Bonham on the drums and he had IT you knew it was him as soon as you heard the drums, having a great bass player like JPJ helps of course but Paice had Glover very underrated IMO what it comes down too is that they were great rhythm sections just like Moon & Entwistle. Great bass players & drummers know how feed off one another, but once in awhile you'll get the MAGIC combo and that is what Bonham & JPJ were but there are many MAGIC combos out there back then & present.

Nowadays hardly anybody tries to experiment with recordings like they did back in the 60's or 70's and that's why they sound so cookie cutter IMO i'm sure there are a few that still do but today but it's mostly go to the studio and record, not go too a castle put the drums in the foyer and hang 3 mics at different heights like LZ did for "When the Levee Breaks" it's kinda of sad in a way. Back too the topic Paice is GREAT one of my fav's. probably more so since Bonham's passing.

BL
 

Pocket-full-of-gold

Platinum Member
Glad I read this thread. It's prompted a three day Paice bender. Haven't listened to anything but Purple albums since Thurs. It's been good to revisit them and I've made myself focus purely on the drumming (not easy with two masters like Blackmore and Lord to ignore!!!). Insane,,,,the man has immeasurable talent and is a joy to listen to. No point getting into the a/b thing with drummers. Bonham was truely great, Paice had a completely different thing going on and it was great, Palmer was different again....and great....Appice was...well, I could go on forever....but it's pretty much why we refer to all of these guys as 'THE GREATS' of rock drumming.
 
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