Help Replacing Snare Throw

MetallicaItalian

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I have a 14x5" Ludwig Aluminum Acrolite Black galaxy Finish snare. The throw crapped out on me today. Can anybody recommend compatible replacements? I think the P86 is compatible I hear some good things about it. I'd really prefer one that I'd be able to install with a drum key rather than Phillips screws that constantly strip.
 
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Skitch

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Or....you could try on of my retrokits which mount a Trick throw-off to that Black Galaxy acrolite seamlessly. Rich Redmond (of Jason Aldean) is using one of these already and loves it!

I recently aquired an LM402 with the stock components. Argh - what a mess! The P-85 throw-off backs off while I am playing it and the P-32 butt is almost impossible to work with ( hope you have small hands)! And, from what I am hearing, the P-86 Millennium throw is just as bad as the P-85!


You can check the retrokits out at:

www.dominoretroplate.com


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Moldy

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I replaced the stock throwoff on my Tama Starclassic snare with a P86 and *LOVE* it. I mean, absolutely love it. I don't even have both screws secure and it's solid as a rock. Highly adjustable as well.
 

volvoguy

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Just get the throw off you want (I'd go P86), take the screws to your favorite hardware store, and find replacements with the same thread and length with your favorite head... be it torx, allen, square drive, etcc.

-Ryan
 

KarlCrafton

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I don't know what other people are saying, but for ME, the P-86 is great. I haven't had any problems at all in 4 years. It's a much nicer throw than the P-85, and it looks great.

Moldy is right, it doesn't have to be real tight to hold securely, just snug.

Hex head screws are available at hardware shops for pennies if you want to go that route with the screws.

Ludwig's "new" (it's been available for a while) butt plate has key screws, BUT it doesn't have the same hole pattern as the P-32 butt. So you can't just swap it out.

If you want to go for the Trick throw/butt, then I'd use the retro-fit kit that Mike has.
Check his link and eBay for it.

Don't drill extra holes in your drum and all that...
 

Skitch

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I don't know what other people are saying, but for ME, the P-86 is great. I haven't had any problems at all in 4 years. It's a much nicer throw than the P-85, and it looks great.

Moldy is right, it doesn't have to be real tight to hold securely, just snug.

Hex head screws are available at hardware shops for pennies if you want to go that route with the screws.
Karl,

I have had many P-86 users buy my kit. There isn't any problems with frailty or the tension backing off and the drum actually sounds better!

Ludwig's "new" (it's been available for a while) butt plate has key screws, BUT it doesn't have the same hole pattern as the P-32 butt. So you can't just swap it out.

If you want to go for the Trick throw/butt, then I'd use the retro-fit kit that Mike has.
Check his link and eBay for it.

Don't drill extra holes in your drum and all that...

I appreciate the referral and I can't believe that the new butt isn't a direct swap! A colossal blunder.


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KarlCrafton

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Yeah, I couldn't believe the holes weren't the same either! At least it was a cheap discovery ($3 or something. It was STUPID cheap, but the piece is sturdy--I'll be able to use it someday)

Usually, everything stays the same with them--my guess would be because of changing the tooling and settings.
The new butt is off by a 16th at least.

Changing over from Classic Ft legs to the Elite is a little pain too because the holes are a tiny bit off too. If you extend (oval) the TOP hole of the bracket a little it keeps everything where it should be.

The new Keystone brackets look real cool to me. They're not the "traditional" thing that some people really like, but the hole pattern on those appears to be nothing like what they had before.

I may have to look into getting 2 of Mike's butt plate kits for a couple snares...except those snares don't leave the house!
 

MetallicaItalian

Senior Member
Thanks for all the input. I may just give the P-86 a shot. The trick seems awesome but I'm not dropping $70 on a throw heh. It's going on a backup snare anyway as I'm patiently waiting for my aluminum Sensitone to arrive.
 
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