So... I bought the Sweet ride 23... love it... but terribly missed the K Con Renaissance 22 I had bought/returned and, of course, as soon as I had returned it, it got sold. A few day later, the drum shop announced that a used Renaissance (not the same one) had just arrived used... for 200$ less. Grabbed it of course. Love them both. And today, I pulled the trigger on that 21" Special Dry Ride... used but new... at 280$. Now I have 4 rides... I'll stop there, probably.Several years ago, I very nearly pulled the trigger on a 22-inch K-Con Medium ride, and it sounded amazing, except the bell, which was weak in comparison to the rest of the cymbal. My drummer friend John has an entire set of K-Con's, which I've had the opportunity to play when I've sat in on some of his gigs, and I know that they're supposed to be these amazing "holy grail" cymbals, but they're not as satisfying to play & hear as Turkish cymbals (Istanbul Agop in particular), or regular Zildjian K's.