Gretsch Renown

AC Long

Junior Member

larryz

Platinum Member
$1500? You can get them under $1000 new if you go with the 57 model. Get em now before they're gone. Renowns are a total class act and best bargain out there in my opinion. And I know of no "cheap Yamahas"... even their stage customs and gigmaker lines are really good.
 

longgun

Gold Member
$1500? You can get them under $1000 new if you go with the 57 model. Get em now before they're gone. Renowns are a total class act and best bargain out there in my opinion. And I know of no "cheap Yamahas"... even their stage customs and gigmaker lines are really good.
...........+1.....they are being sold dirt cheap.........If I could convince the better half, I'd have a set in my living room now.............the 57's look great
 

AC Long

Junior Member
$1500? You can get them under $1000 new if you go with the 57 model. Get em now before they're gone. Renowns are a total class act and best bargain out there in my opinion. And I know of no "cheap Yamahas"... even their stage customs and gigmaker lines are really good.
Well, I guess they could be made to sound good if they had good, new heads and weren't stuffed with foam like everywhere I play. I can take it out of the bass drum but the toms are always stuffed with foam over here so they won't be too loud. Sounds awful.
 

AC Long

Junior Member
$1500? You can get them under $1000 new if you go with the 57 model. Get em now before they're gone. Renowns are a total class act and best bargain out there in my opinion. And I know of no "cheap Yamahas"... even their stage customs and gigmaker lines are really good.
I want a 24" kick and only need 2 toms. I also don't like toms mounted on the kick. The Renown 3 piece shell pack seems to be a cut above these but I could be wrong. I'll check both out if I can. Very hard to test out kits over here in Taiwan. Terrible customer service. They expect you to just buy something and be stuck with it without even trying it out first.
 
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RodneyZepa

Senior Member
In my opinion, if I was to buy a Renown kit this would be the one I'd purchase...The 24" kick is the clincher...I've a Renown in Slate Silver Sparkle with 20x22 - 9x13 - 16x16 - 6.5x14 and would give anything for a 24" kick although my kit was an excellent score...Sounds excellent in studio and for live gigs...I paid close to $1,500 about 4 years ago (CDN) but here in BC we have a 7 % and 12 % Sales Tax...'57 is nice but for Rock the kit you looking at is perfect...I am envious actually...Great choice if you get it and if sounds anything like my Renowns, you will be very, very pleased...
 
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audiotech

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I had my eyes on a set of Renown drums for a couple of years before I decided on mine. I have the 22 x 18, 16 x 16, 14 x 14 12 x 9, 10 x 8 and an 8 x7" tom. They're really great drums for what little they cost, relatively speaking of course. Mine are in the "cherry burst" finish which I bought before the "57" line came out.



Dennis
 
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Bandit

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I just bought both full sized and bop kit, to build this little beauty today!


 

bobdadruma

Platinum Member
I love Renown's. I have played them many times over the years.
They have a wonderful warm tone and they also have a great deal of controllable punch that can be used for whatever dynamics that you need.
 

john gerrard

Senior Member
I have the Renown Rock kit and the Cat Jazz kit. Believe me the Renown 24 bass is just awesome. What a killer kick drum. I put a EMad on it and a Powerstroke 3 on the reso side. I tried to adjust to a unported reso but just didn't like it,so I put a 4 inch port in it. But believe me there is plenty of BOOM the way it is. The finish on the Renowns is stunning. I'm running Evans EC2's on the batters and clear G1's on the reso's. They just sound great. I think the Renown Rock kit would serve you well and you won't be dissappointed. John
 

drumdevil9

Platinum Member
You can't go wrong with a Renown. I love mine. Quality construction and features all around. It uses many of the same parts as USA Custom. No brainer.
 

AC Long

Junior Member
The Renown does seem like the most bang for the buck out there for a rock drum set. Now I just hope I can find one here in Taiwan and that I can talk my wife into letting me buy it.
 
Thanks man! I love 8" toms over my hats. Have fun with yours!
I am looking forward to playing it with the kit.

I am running clear emps over the original clear 1 ply heads.

Are you using coated G2's? What do you think of them? I have ben thinking of going to coated heads for a change up.
 
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nhzoso

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I paid close to $1,500 about 4 years ago (CDN) but here in BC we have a 7 % and 12 % Sales Tax...


UGH How sad..

I agree Renowns would be a good kit but not for $1500 new when they are going much cheaper now. I agree a 24" will be a little more but not $500 more. Shop around
 

Aeolian

Platinum Member
I think they are made in Taiwan!
They are assembled in Taiwan. That is the lugs and other hardware that is made in the far east are attached to the shells in Taiwan.

I did a bunch of research on various forums and have posted this on the Gretsch forum and nobody from them has come in to counter it. Here's what I came up with on how the Renowns are made;

Gretsch buys off the shelf all maple shells from Keller. Different from their USA custom that has their proprietary gumwood layup, but basically the same maple Keller shells you can buy from AMS and lots of independent makers use. Then they cut the edges and put the lacquer and silver sealer finish on in their USA factory. Then the part that sounds weird, but having been in the electronics manufacturing business for over 30 years and working with various combinations of shipping things to plants around the world I can see how it works out. They ship the finished shell to Taiwan where the hardware gets mounted and the finished drum is shipped back. It seems silly to ship the drums halfway across the planet but anyone who's stripped their shells down knows that it takes awhile to deal with all those screws. And in the absence of enough volume to amortize serious automation, this is done the same way you or I would (albeit with a torque controlled power screwdriver). When you add up all the labor and the labor costs, it's cheaper to ship them around than to have someone making $12+/hr (I have a feeling that the small shop/quality minded folks in the Gretsch factory probably make better than minimum wage and they keep an artisan mentality for their top line stuff and just pass the costs on to customers willing to pay for top line quality) screwing the lugs and legs on.

The upshot is that you get what is essentially a USA made drum, with the same shells as many custom made drums, with the same edges and finish as top line Gretschs (which stand with any other drums, being only a matter of taste) for a fraction of the cost. What you don't get is the unique Gretsch shell with the gumwood, which is harder than maple and adds to the projection and tone. But you would be hard pressed to buy a set of shells from AMS, take them to a specialist to mimic the Gretsch 30 degree cut, and finish them to the same quality, including reverse engineering the silver sealer or substituting internet suppositions that it is galvanized fence paint or whatever. And finishing off the whole kit with hardware and diecast hoops for the same price as a set of Renowns. And with the Renowns you would know what you're getting.

You could have different edges cut, and different interior finish, use triple flange hoops or any other things you might think would be improvements because you like the qualities of those changes. But that would be a different kit.

Just because Gretsch is blowing out some finishes and sizes doesn't mean that is what they should cost. $1500 is a bargain. Anywhere near a grand is a steal. If you like the combination of features, there's no way to beat it.

Oh, and they work great with coated heads. I have G2 coated over G1 coated and they are really close to a buddies holy grail 80's Jasper kit with G2 coated over Ambassador clears. And some of that is because he's a tuning ninja.
 

AirborneSFC

Gold Member
I was back in the states for work and played a Renown kit. Honestly a great sounding kit. For the price they are a great deal.
 
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