I sold a Pioneer Ludwig snare for 180 last Wed. trying to raise enough cash to get a 17" K or Sig. Then Sat. I went to my favorite drum store and found a used 16" Paiste Sig. Fast Crash for 180. So I grabbed it. Now I've got an 18" full and a 16" fast crash. Amazingly it sounds very similar to the 16" Med. thin HH Sabian that I've been using, except it opens up much faster, with a quicker decay. But the overall sound is very close. Been wanting another Sig. for many yrs. I don't think I'll get rid of the HH though.