Looks like you're having tons of fun on tour, Gavin. It must feel worlds apart from the intricacies of King Crimson. I sure hope Bruce can make an American tour happen.
I followed your advice and I tuned the bottom head way! tighter with the "snare bed" lugs a bit more loose. Suddenly the whole sound opened up, articulation came back, the ringing's gone. Amazing, sometimes little things do the trick. The drum is a bit lower than on your recording, but it sounds great (again) with the low tuning of the toms. Thanks a lot, this saved some headache.I usually tune the bottom head REALLY tight but the 4 lugs either side of the snare wire a bit less. The "snare bed" part of the bearing edge will not give you the chance for completely even tuning. It's the only head that I tune this way. Apart from that - whenever I put on a new head (especially the bottom of a snare) it takes a few days for it to settle in. The top is head is lower in pitch than the bottom head. If you scroll back a few pages on this thread - you'll find a recording of my drums (starting with the 14" snare drum with the snares "off") and you can hear the pitch I choose.
best of luck
Legend, cheers bro, much appreciated as alwaysHi Lightbulb_Sun
Do you recall what kick mics you used on In Absentia, Deadwing, Lewis Taylor's In Session 2005, and Fear of a Blank Planet? Your drum sound has always been fantastic, even as far back as the '88 Dizrhythmia. Again, I apologize if my constant questions are a bit of nuisance.
I think for those albums mentioned it would have been a Beyer M88 - (I'm not 100% sure regarding In Absentia) as we had an engineer in the studio in NYC who may have added other mics.
I am a man who likes a live sound. For almost all my favourite bands, I prefer listening to a live recording due to the fact that it's not quite as perfect as a studio recording and you seem to hear more. You have done many, most of which I have, but my favourite is the PT Arriving Somewhere DVD. Was there anything specific done to the mix for these shows?
I can't remember exactly what was done to those tracks.
In comparison I think the drum sound / overall mix on Octane Twisted is a bit flat.
Did you tune your kit specifically, is it due to the surround mix?
I don't tune my kit any differently when playing live or in a studio - they are of course closed mic'd in exactly the same way. Unfortunately with live mixes - the drum overhead mics are usually full or guitar sounds and there's a total lack of 'usable' room sound - so you have to add digital reverb.
glad you like the sound of it anyway.