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Gavin Harrison

DRUMMERWORLD PRO DRUMMER
Hi Stevesmithfan

How often do you change your Snare and Tom Tom heads when touring?


it depends on the music and therefore how hard I'm hitting the heads. In King Crimson I change the snare head about once every 7 shows and probably every 10 shows with the 10" tom (as it gets a lot of action). The 8" and 12" might be once every 15 shows. The floor toms get changed about once every 20 shows.

In other bands (Pineapple Thief or Porcupine Tree) it's more frequent.

cheers
Gavin
 
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So you actually change heads individually, instead of changing all drums at once?
That's pretty common with most bands on tour. Changing all heads on the same day is a major undertaking and there isn't usually that much time available. Also, each drum doesn't get the same amount of action, so after about a week, you can see that one would benefit from being replaced whereas others look barely used.

Some drummers change their snare head every show, especially if it's a loud band where the drummer is hitting very forcefully.
 

Tamaefx

Silver Member
Hello Gavin,
I just wanted to say that I discovered few days ago your work with Pineapple Thief ; thanks to your Drumeo session and your work on "In Exile". I deeply loved the music and purchased almost right away the two last albums.
I liked the ghost notes trick while cross-sticking ; great hint.
Your drumming is all about "finesse", it's a pleasure to listen to such a musical approach of the instrument that blend so well with the music - would it be with Procupine T or Pineapple T.
Thank you.
 
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michaelg

Member
Hi Gavin
I thought you'd be the right man to help answer this

I recently seen a clip of a concert with Simon Phillip on youtube playing a tune with Lee Ritenour , the song is in 7.
Anyways there's a place in the tune where Simon takes a long drum fill of 4 bars of 7.
I'm wondering how someone can feel and solo over 4 bars of 7,
My own approach would probably be something like dividing the bars up in sections of 2, 4 or 8 ,, so 4barsX7 = 28 beats divided up like 8+8+8+4.

What would be your approach ? practice to just feel it in 7 ?

Many thanks
Michael

Ps heres the clip , the fill starts around the 2.30 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFGkvF_rK-A
 
Hi Gavin!
How are you? What are you doing at the moment?

I got a question: I feel fairly "okay" with my improvised grooves and little mini-fills (subtelties) but I feel very uncomfortable improvising bigger fills. I´m actually even a little scared to get into a bigger fill...
Anyway If I then try one I dislike it nearly every time. (If I have the time to work out a fill it´s not that bad.)

Your improvised fills always amaze me! And they´re quite big oftentimes as well.

Could you give me any advise on how to approach or practice it?

(PS: In an video you talk about your "curling-concept". Do you use some other concepts similar to this as well?)

Thank you so much in advance.
 

Gavin Harrison

DRUMMERWORLD PRO DRUMMER
Hi Swiss Matthias

So you actually change heads individually, instead of changing all drums at once?

Absolutely. On some tours the second floor tom never gets to the point that I feel it needs changing.

Hi Tamaefx

I just wanted to say that I discovered few days ago your work with Pineapple Thief ; thanks to your Drumeo session and your work on "In Exile". I deeply loved the music and purchased almost right away the two last albums.

Thanks very much !

Hi michaelg

I recently seen a clip of a concert with Simon Phillip on youtube playing a tune with Lee Ritenour , the song is in 7. Anyways there's a place in the tune where Simon takes a long drum fill of 4 bars of 7. I'm wondering how someone can feel and solo over 4 bars of 7,
My own approach would probably be something like dividing the bars up in sections of 2, 4 or 8 ,, so 4barsX7 = 28 beats divided up like 8+8+8+4.

What would be your approach ? practice to just feel it in 7 ?


I'm sure Simon is just feeling it in 7. I would do the same and just sing the riff or bass line to myself as I was soloing.

Hi Robert Schmidt

How are you? What are you doing at the moment?

I'm good thanks. Just practising and writing new stuff at the moment before the touring/rehearsing begins again.

I got a question: I feel fairly "okay" with my improvised grooves and little mini-fills (subtelties) but I feel very uncomfortable improvising bigger fills. I´m actually even a little scared to get into a bigger fill...Anyway If I then try one I dislike it nearly every time. (If I have the time to work out a fill it´s not that bad.) Your improvised fills always amaze me! And they´re quite big oftentimes as well.

haha - thanks but my fills don't amaze me though.

Could you give me any advise on how to approach or practice it? In an video you talk about your "curling-concept". Do you use some other concepts similar to this as well?

I find it's better to have an idea of what 'kind of fill' I'm about to play rather than just have a few 'per-rehearsed' fills that I do all the time. What I mean by that - is a fill that I think is correct for that part of the song as a bridge for taking the music somewhere and building the arrangement. I do have some 'worked-out' fills of course and usually dislike when I have to use them because I couldn't think of anything else. Some days you just seem to have more inspired ideas than others. So developing your own concepts that might help you get in the right frame of mind for what type of fill you're just about to play is very helpful.

best of luck
cheers
Gavin
 

DaEigi

Junior Member
Hi Gavin. It's just so amazing to have the opportunity to talk to you. You're probably my biggest inspiration.
So we play lots of Porcupine Tree songs in our band. And at home it would just be much better to have a drumless track. I mean they are out there, but only Sound of Muzak or Blackest Eyes. Is there any platform where I can find more drumless tracks for Porcupine Tree Songs? Have the original drumless tracks been given away by you on this forum?

Greetings from Germany and sorry for bad English, thanks for your amazing work.
 

Gavin Harrison

DRUMMERWORLD PRO DRUMMER
Hi DaEigi

So we play lots of Porcupine Tree songs in our band. And at home it would just be much better to have a drumless track. I mean they are out there, but only Sound of Muzak or Blackest Eyes. Is there any platform where I can find more drumless tracks for Porcupine Tree Songs? Have the original drumless tracks been given away by you on this forum?

sorry but none of the 'drumless' versions are available. There is a version of Sound Of Muzak out there somewhere made by the German Drum Magazine "Sticks" that has no vocals. I haven't heard the "Blackest Eyes" one. I don't own the original recordings and cannot release them - even though I have performed to a few of them at drum clinics etc.

cheers
Gavin
 

Nige86

Junior Member
Hi Gavin, hope you are well. Just wanted to say I'm enjoying your drumming with The Pineapple Thief, Dissolution is a great album! Quick question though about your Collab with o5Ric, are there any future plans for album number four?
 

Tiko

Junior Member
Thanks for all the music over the years and for this thread, it's filled with valuable information. We flew in to see you play with Pineapple Thief in Scotland last October, loved the gig.

I really think you're one of the best mixing engineers when it comes to drums. I'd love to know what reverb you use on the snare?

Thanks again and keep rocking!

Musically,
Tiko
 

Gavin Harrison

DRUMMERWORLD PRO DRUMMER
Hi DaEigi

Wow thanks for the quick reply.
Here's the link for the Blackest Eyes Version:


ah OK. That's not the original version. It appears that someone has remade it (most likely lifted Steven's vocals from the centre channel of a 5.1 mix) and put it all together. It's not bad but there's a few mistakes in there.

Hi Nige86

Quick question though about your Collab with o5Ric, are there any future plans for album number four?

No plans at the moment for another album.

Hi Tiko

I really think you're one of the best mixing engineers when it comes to drums. I'd love to know what reverb you use on the snare?

Most of the reverb is coming from my live room. Other than that I use a little bit of the Logic software reverb called Space Designer with a preset that I think is called Large Wood Room modeled from a Lexicon 480 reverb.

cheers
Gavin
 
Hi Gavin!
How are you doing?
We all know that you got an really amazing drumsound! :)
Of course its coming mostly from the way you play the drums and maybe some other things like sticks, mics, placement and so on.
But if we just take a look on the tuning, are your drums always perfectly tuned? (Meaning that you have the same pitches on every lug.)

Greetings
 

kerrek

Junior Member
Hi Gavin!

I'm so glad you'll be touring the US again. I'll be seeing you in December with The Pineapple Thief in CO. I'm afraid I missed you last time you came through doing your drum clinics.

I'm a big fan of all of your work, and I'm specifically wondering if the musical scores for any of your arrangements on Cheating the Polygraph are - or ever will be - available. I'd pay good money for a couple of those scores, and I'm sure I'm not alone!

Thanks in advance!
Jeff
 

Gavin Harrison

DRUMMERWORLD PRO DRUMMER
Hi Robert Schmidt

But if we just take a look on the tuning, are your drums always perfectly tuned? (Meaning that you have the same pitches on every lug.)

I start off aiming to get all the lug-pitches the same - but as you know - it's almost impossible because you don't just affect the pitch exclusively in front of that lug. We're not dealing with a perfect science here - it's a constantly moving target. I get them reasonably close. If the drum doesn't sound exactly what I'm hoping for - I might just tweak one lug up or down to see if improves. Sometimes it does and I just leave it there. Having maximum sustain (especially on floor toms) is not always what you want - and upsetting the equal pitch by de-tuning one lug might affect the sustain in a good way.

Hi kerrek

I'm specifically wondering if the musical scores for any of your arrangements on Cheating the Polygraph are - or ever will be - available. I'd pay good money for a couple of those scores, and I'm sure I'm not alone!

they could be available via my arranger Laurence Cottle - but we never intended to sell them and probably they would need a bit of work to make them look correct. There are no drum or bass charts - Laurence (who also played bass on all the pieces) just charted out everything for all the brass players. I wrote some sections for myself - but mostly played from the top of my head.

cheers
Gavin
 

bananers

Junior Member
Hi Gavin!

New to Drummerworld but really enjoyed reading through some of the posts in this thread!

Just wanted to say I'm relatively new to a lot of your stuff (in the last year) but it came at a fantastic point in my life as post-music uni blues were getting to me and I spent most of last summer really trying to find my creativity on the kit again, and just finding what on earth I really wanted to practice. At the risk of sounding weak or insincere with this admission, I have enjoyed watching your videos and delving into your musical projects, (particularly Porcupine Tree and The Pineapple Thief) they have really given me a massive boost of inspiration and love for practice again.

I recently also made the trip from London to Bristol to come and see you with The Pineapple Thief and it was mind-blowing! Following this I have been steadily going through 'Rhythmic Illusions' and so far I'm loving challenging myself again and really getting stuck into displacement and where I can take these ideas myself.

In short, thank you so much for being an incredible inspiration and I'm excited every day to just pay attention to my practice. Not expecting a reply of course but I do just hope you see the message as I am incredibly thankful.

Alannah

(P.S I enjoy the fact that you played on Sam Brown's "Stop", I heard that record a lot when I was younger via my parents!!!)
 

Jennifer Leijen

Junior Member
Hey Gav,

Happy birthday !

And a photo from my gig at Patronaat as a birthday card to go with this birthday wish, haha. I smashed 3 SHAR2 sticks and one VF 2B during this show and was forced to use my last SHAR2 and 2B together, that's why I am using two different sticks here.

Never broken so many sticks in one hour, I always take two different pairs in case I want to switch. Will receive the Sonor Protean snare today btw, looking forward to it !

Hope you're having fun today.



If you want to see more photos from this show, you can check them out here
 

Tjalling

Junior Member
Hi Gavin!

Been a long time fan. .3 from the In Absentia album is one of the greatest pieces of music I've ever heard, and I love your work on the song. Do you by any chance have a small part of the (handwritten) transcription of the main groove you play on .3? I know it's not the most difficult groove to play, but I'd love to see the way you put your thoughts on the song on paper.

I wish you all the best!

Kind regards,

Tjalling
 
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