Do you emulate your heroes?

Skitch

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Well I`ve more or less copied Vinnie`s setup, it just makes sense to me and I think he has good tastes in gear. I`m influenced by a bunch of different players and I`m into different types of percussion, so it doesn`t stop there in any way. Another point is that so far I can`t really do much of what Vinnie does and I wan t to get to that level in a slow and general way also learning stuff he`s not really know for doing.
The Tom Scott CD "Flashpoint" really made an impression on me as to how versatile Vinnie is.



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Skitch

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Not really.

I'm a massive fan of Neil Peart and Mike Portnoy (among other busy players), but I prefer to play a 5pc kit and tend stick to 2&4 type stuff.
And it isn't always easy to find bassists and guitarists who share your enthusiam for those bands.

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Skitch

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I like this appoach. I've taken the WWRD (why would Ringo do?) approach too. Sometimes a part comes to you almost straight away and sometimes it doesn't. When it doesn't I sometimes resort to WWRD ... or Charlie, or Bernard Purdie (on valium) or Sol Amarfio or ...
And yet Ringo is highly under-rated and is very creative. I believe he played on the Paul McCartney track "Take it Away" the drum part was not super orthodox 2&4. Charlie Watts isn't an easy drummer to emulate because most of us have not approached the 2 & 4 like Charlie does. Even Terry Bozzio admitted this in a drum clinic.


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DrumEatDrum

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And it isn't always easy to find bassists and guitarists who share your enthusiam for those bands.
Actually, that wasn't difficult the time I tried. I once had a band with guitarist and a bassist and we wrote and rehearsed some wild prog-rock-metal material, where the time signature changed every few bars, and I was playing pretty busy parts.

Now finding a singer who shared our enthusiasm for those bands was impossible!
 

Hercules

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My Mrs tells me I sound like Pierre Moerlen, which really bolsters my ego.... but my sensible self knows the truth
 

Pollyanna

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And yet Ringo is highly under-rated and is very creative. I believe he played on the Paul McCartney track "Take it Away" the drum part was not super orthodox 2&4. Charlie Watts isn't an easy drummer to emulate because most of us have not approached the 2 & 4 like Charlie does. Even Terry Bozzio admitted this in a drum clinic.
I never thought about the difficulty of emulating Charlie so I must be missing out on some of the nuances. The main thing for me is reductionism because I've listened to a lot of jazz, fusion and prog and I don't dare try to emulate those drummers. So, when I hear a part in a song that's out of my range, then I wonder "What would Charlie do?". Especially helpful in jazz tunes because I see him as the Meg of jazz :)

When I'm uninspired and worked out some cookie-cutter part for a song that doesn't help give the song the form it's asking for, then it's more "What would Ringo do?. When I want to Africanise (i.e. every chance I get because I love the colour, clarity and logic of African-style rhythms) then I think Sol Amarfio.
 

Mikecore

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Sure. They all show up in my playing at different times, and sometimes that's how I chart out a new song if I'm having trouble with it: "311/Chad Sexton part here (8 bars), followed by classic Rush groove here (4 bars), Bozzio overhead crash fill, Danny Carey tom groove...", and I learned that trick from Mike Portnoy.

Or, the way I set up my big kit is because of Terry Bozzio, but the reason I gave it a serious try was because of Grant Collins.
 

nickg

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when we were recording originals there was definitely a lot of Jeff Porcaro (or at least TRYING TO!!) in my playing.
 
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