Dave Weckl

DR.WHOO

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radeq said:
ok this one is my second favourite drummer, you like him?
Like him but not too much.Very hard technique but
dunno why ,,think i like other kind of feelings

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Dr Drums

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he's like the ideal drummer and has it all by the book, and that's exectly his problem.
He doesnt have something really speacial, he's groove and feel are very mainstream, he's so unoriginal. Yet, no doubt he's a hell of a drummer and between the 10th best drummers 2day. At least.
 

DR.WHOO

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Dr Drums said:
he's like the ideal drummer and has it all by the book, and that's exectly his problem.
He doesnt have something really speacial, he's groove and feel are very mainstream, he's so unoriginal. Yet, no doubt he's a hell of a drummer and between the 10th best drummers 2day. At least.
u daid it man

not excly as i wanted to, but at least very near

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Anchein Vouivra

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I'm not really in, and don't dig this "Weckle-Colaiuta-Gadd-Chambers-Steve Smith..." drumming pantheon. They're are too glorified and used by their endorsements as THE DRUM REFERENCE. Too technical and they are all playing fusion which make feel each one sound more and more similar. But it's like always very personal, it's just music that doesn't move me (maybe at the exception of Gadd).
 

Anchein Vouivra

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Simply not the best drummers from certain point of views. If you want to know go and check the thread "Who is you favourite drummer".
 

Raymond Bloom

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I bet that Dave is almost a dream to work with (refering to non drummers - musicians) He is no doubt an awsome drummer with a steady time, great latin kind of feal, superb chops and nowadays just frigging sick technique!

I am really happy that Dave will be in Latvia as a special guest in our jazz festival, I will add some coments about that after seeing him, it deffinetely will give me ''a hit'' to practice more and more.
 
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Elemental Nausea

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I very much agree with jammaster, weckel is very steady, universally talented, has nice ideas and has a good taste for latin stuff....I also learned a lot from his dvd , how to hold the sticks "correctly" in the first place
 
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Stu_Strib

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Anchein Vouivra said:
I'm not really in, and don't dig this "Weckle-Colaiuta-Gadd-Chambers-Steve Smith..." drumming pantheon. They're are too glorified and used by their endorsements as THE DRUM REFERENCE. Too technical and they are all playing fusion which make feel each one sound more and more similar. But it's like always very personal, it's just music that doesn't move me (maybe at the exception of Gadd).
The pantheon you don't get consists of some of the best drummers alive, not based only on their very good technical playing, but for their high demand to play for anyone.

No punk rocker drummer can play these guys' parts, but all these guys can play punk rock. Its really that easy.

If you have the highest technical skills possible, and can play anything, that makes you good.

Just look at Vinny Colaiuta and Steve Gadd's discography for starters.

Just watch Steve Smith, for crying out loud. If you can't see why he is on top of the drumming world, then I can't really say anything more about it.

Weckl is a matter of taste, but there is no denying his ability. And his drum sound is one of the best recorded.
 

Anchein Vouivra

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Stu_Strib said:
No punk rocker drummer can play these guys' parts, but all these guys can play punk rock. Its really that easy.
I believe Dave Dicenso could be one of the only punk rock drummer..............just teasing, but he's emerged from the punk scene and he's sooooooooo good and versatile in many styles, but I won't cut the Dave Weckl thread on him.
 
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Stu_Strib

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Anchein Vouivra said:
I believe Dave Dicenso could be one of the only punk rock drummer..............just teasing, but he's emerged from the punk scene and he's sooooooooo good and versatile in many styles, but I won't cut the Dave Weckl thread on him.
I've heard his name. I'll have to check him out.
 

Pedro

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Anchein Vouivra said:
I'm not really in, and don't dig this "Weckle-Colaiuta-Gadd-Chambers-Steve Smith..." drumming pantheon. They're are too glorified and used by their endorsements as THE DRUM REFERENCE. Too technical and they are all playing fusion which make feel each one sound more and more similar. But it's like always very personal, it's just music that doesn't move me (maybe at the exception of Gadd).
I must agree with you speakig of Steve Smith. He's a hell of a drummer but his band Vital Information really sucks. Totally non-musical. But Colaiuta is a differet thing. for e.g. he recorded Megadeth new album and he played with Sting: and there he proves hes incredible talent and good choice of music.
Weckl and Smith are a bit "too-fusion" and tyhe music really doesn't make it for me eather.
But Colaiuta and certainly Steve Gadd played with a lot of good and different music, that isn't fusion.
One of the few crazy drummers who makes good music is also Trilok Gurtu.

But waching many others is like going to the circus: just waching the drummer doeing crazy stunts and incredible things, without really liking the music :))
 

jamsjr44

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Vital Information does not suck, I guess you just don't like the music they play. But Barret Browne on bass is a highly regarded bassist. he used to record with Billy Cobham and alot of other great drummers.
 

Pedro

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jamsjr44 said:
Vital Information does not suck, I guess you just don't like the music they play. But Barret Browne on bass is a highly regarded bassist. he used to record with Billy Cobham and alot of other great drummers.
I can understand that Browne and Frank Gambale are highly regarded musicians. But I believe there is one reason for it: they all have a unbelieveble technique. But that doesn't say a thing about the musicality. For me Frank Gambale is a "note-screwer": he can play a hundred notes a minute (thats why he's so appreciated), but without any musicality or good harmony.
I'm a trained listener, and I can appreciate music that I don't like, if I notice good harmonical or original things in the music. But this I miss in Vital Information.

And all those big musicians play together, it's a bit of an orgy. But that doesn't mean they are all able to make good music.

Ok, I don't know about Baron Browne, but what I heard of Frank Gambale, I only can say that he's one of te less musical professional guitar players I've ever heard.

Sorry for the hard comment, but I was really really dissepointed. I bet this guys also have good music, or maybe I heard the wrong stuff. It's all possible.
 

LiquidSoul546

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Dr Drums said:
he's like the ideal drummer and has it all by the book, and that's exectly his problem.
He doesnt have something really speacial, he's groove and feel are very mainstream, he's so unoriginal. Yet, no doubt he's a hell of a drummer and between the 10th best drummers 2day. At least.
He's mainstream?!?! you have got to be kidding me. showme another drummer anything close to dave. and if you haven't checked out his band's cd (live and very plugged in) and then tell me that's "mainstream" i don't hear any other drummers with dave's style, or feel. he plays such odd timings, and has such a sweet style playin his bongo's and djemba dealy. i dunno, but this quote is way off dave, you must be talking about a different drummer.
 

finnhiggins

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radeq said:
ok this one is my second favourite drummer, you like him?

http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Dave_Weckl.html
On the one hand, I have the most immense respect for Weckl's hard work and dedication to the instrument. He's done more with it than any of us will in our lives, and he's got stylistic versitility to kill for.

On the other hand, I saw him play in London with his band and I've never been so bored at a live gig in my life. Easily the worst "drum" gig I've ever seen. It's sort of like watching a well-programmed sequencer do its thing. Impressive for a while, but after a while it just becomes a constant barrage totally lacking in tension and release. And since he now plays pretty much exclusively fusion I have to sit there listening to music that sounds like it belongs in a lift or a porn movie in order to watch him do his thing.

Stunning, but simultaneously underwhelming. How do you communicate that? I find it's kind of like the opposite of inspiration. Watching Dave Weckl strips me of my motivation to practice, very rapidly. Which is odd, considering almost every other drummer I see inspires me in some way or another.
 

Drummer_Boy

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I love Dave Weckl. He is one hell of a drummer. He's great technically. Altho, I find that he should probably do some other style..I personally don't like Fusion, and for all you know you could be hearing Dave Weckl in the elevator. He should do something to show off his talent..but if Fusion is his gig, so be it. He's still great. Anyways, he is definately one of the greatest drummers ever, and he's amazing. >_<
 

Dr Drums

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LiquidSoul546 said:
He's mainstream?!?! you have got to be kidding me. showme another drummer anything close to dave. and if you haven't checked out his band's cd (live and very plugged in) and then tell me that's "mainstream" i don't hear any other drummers with dave's style, or feel. he plays such odd timings, and has such a sweet style playin his bongo's and djemba dealy. i dunno, but this quote is way off dave, you must be talking about a different drummer.
Come on i'm not talking about his band's style... I'm talking about his sound & solos style.
He has like the "perfect" sound and everything sounds just the way it should.. Nothing special..And his solos are to very predictible. Man it's just a fact no doubt about.
 
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