Click Track in Live

Naigewron

Platinum Member
One additional benefit: When the guitarist (or anyone) starts saying "We usually play that song much faster/slower" I'm able to end the argument because I write down the tempos we decide on for each song. I then program them into my metronome, so I keep track of it all.

Frequently, the discussion goes like this:

Band member- "Wow, that seemed fast. What tempo was it?"
Me- "146"
Band member- "How fast were we playing it last week?"
Me- "146"
Band member- "Oh, okay. Sounds good!"
Oh man, yes. I've had that exact exchange so many times :)
 

hvymtlmike

Senior Member
I would NEVER play to a click live, even if it is being recorded for DVD release. Live shows are about energy and PERFORMING. I believe to put on a GOOD show you have to be able to let the energy in the room take over, not be a systematic machine listening to the click. That's not to say it cannot be done and perform, but I feel I present way more without it. Our band rehearses endlessly with and without a click to ensure we are tight and comfortable. By the time we play live we have got it down and just want to put on one hell of a show. I don't know if it is very prominent to use one live, but I do know of a few people that have. My feelings, NEVER.
 
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Anthony Amodeo

Guest
I would NEVER play to a click live, even if it is being recorded for DVD release. Live shows are about energy and PERFORMING. I believe to put on a GOOD show you have to be able to let the energy in the room take over, not be a systematic machine listening to the click. That's not to say it cannot be done and perform, but I feel I present way more without it. Our band rehearses endlessly with and without a click to ensure we are tight and comfortable. By the time we play live we have got it down and just want to put on one hell of a show. I don't know if it is very prominent to use one live, but I do know of a few people that have. My feelings, NEVER.
a good drummer is not a slave to a click.... simply accompanied by it

you never "listen " to the click....EVER....

if you are listening to the click you are not ready to play with a click yet

you don't play TO a click....you play WITH a click...if you are playing TO it you are a slave

I toured with a band for nearly a decade and we prided ourselves on energy and performance and our energy took over may a rooms across this great country ......for at least 7 of those 9 years we performed with me using a click.

never hindered us once....just kept adrenaline in check and kept the show consistent night after night

nothing worse than listening to a bands record then seeing them live and they play the song 20 BPM faster.....sounds horrible and unrelaxed
 

hvymtlmike

Senior Member
a good drummer is not a slave to a click.... simply accompanied by it

you never "listen " to the click....EVER....

if you are listening to the click you are not ready to play with a click yet

you don't play TO a click....you play WITH a click...if you are playing TO it you are a slave

I toured with a band for nearly a decade and we prided ourselves on energy and performance and our energy took over may a rooms across this great country ......for at least 7 of those 9 years we performed with me using a click.

never hindered us once....just kept adrenaline in check and kept the show consistent night after night

nothing worse than listening to a bands record then seeing them live and they play the song 20 BPM faster.....sounds horrible and unrelaxed
It's not that I feel like a slave to it, I rarely practice without it. I think it comes down to purely a comfort thing. I have been using a click for years, no problems whatsoever, got that covered. It's a choice, neither superior to the other. Just because a band uses a click does not mean their performance will be better and vice versa. My choice is to go without the click, mostly a mental thing. As far as playing the songs 20 bpm faster live, we don't really have that problem. As I said we rehearse A LOT with a click and without making sure we can can keep ourselves in check with the tempo. We have become pretty decent at controlling it. With that self control that I have worked endlessly on, I don't need a click live. As I said in my original statement, just my belief. I know people that have used it personally, some liked it others stoppped it.
 
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Anthony Amodeo

Guest
It's not that I feel like a slave to it, I rarely practice without it. I think it comes down to purely a comfort thing. I have been using a click for years, no problems whatsoever, got that covered. It's a choice, neither superior to the other. Just because a band uses a click does not mean their performance will be better and vice versa. My choice is to go without the click, mostly a mental thing. As far as playing the songs 20 bpm faster live, we don't really have that problem. As I said we rehearse A LOT with a click and without making sure we can can keep ourselves in check with the tempo. We have become pretty decent at controlling it. With that self control that I have worked endlessly on, I don't need a click live. As I said in my original statement, just my belief. I know people that have used it personally, some liked it others stoppped it.
thats my point

if someone NEEDS a click live they definitely should not be using one live.....or even playing live for that matter

I know a lot of drummers who use a click live....not one of them uses it because they NEED it

if you NEED one live it means you NEED practice

...but I understand all your points and totally agree
 

AirborneSFC

Gold Member
I think its great and yes tempo can get carried away too easy. I also highly recommend in ear monitors. Everyone had them in my last band. We sounded tight with them.
 

bermuda

Drummerworld Pro Drummer - Administrator
Been using a click, sequence, or guide-track since 1985 on tour. No loss of energy, no stiffness, just great feels (according to everyone who's ever reviewed the show or commented to us.)

I'm always in-ear (phones, actually) and the band plays to me without any synch issues. There are a few occasions where a click and/or countoff also runs to the guitar player who starts a few songs, so that I'm not counting off a song for him, then not playing at the top.

But not every song we do is to a click, and that's fine as well. It's all just drumming and music, whether we're in perfect time, or playing 'wild'.

I don't use clicks in any of my local bands, although one of them does require each song to start at a pre-determined tempo, so I use 'nome gauge my countoff, turn it off, and count us in. I'm fine keeping us in time after that. But none of these bands are doing shows, with video and some percussion & horns to synch up to. It's a lot less critical for a band to vary a bit, as long as they are making every sound, and there are no visuals tied to the music.

Bermuda
 

drumstix

Member
99% of the time I play with the click other than the 1% of spontaneous singing that happens at church...
The click becomes a part of the song and soon is unheard in the bargain...

I became a 'click' fan and the band got a lot more fans... lol! we got so tight and pro in the process...
I'm now looking for ways to include this click in my IEM solutions.

PS. if the drummer can play with the click the rest of the band needn't in turn he becomes the click LOL
 

Drum-El

Member
I hate playing without a click. I like it for the confidence and consistency. Being able to play in solid time doesn't change the fact that your mood or substance intake of another band member will drag the show down or rush it like crazy. When people are down or not in the zone, they'll rush or drag drastically without the click. There have been times when I was super bummed out on a gig night, and the click saved my life. I know this cause everything would feel super super fast, but I knew it was right. Listening to the video the next week proved this. If you're excited, it'll go the other way, or heaven forbid a band member gets ahold of some explicit substance making him go off the rails.
 
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