Hi Larry - would you elaborate a little...Good job of being honest with yourself. That will serve you well. If you can't groove to a click, groove isn't in your toolbox yet. Groove can be learned, I'm walking proof. I didn't groove for most of my life. I finally started to get it in about 2009, not too long after I joined here. Related? I think so.
Okay, I know...practice.
I have kicked up practice (just a part-time drummer here, wouldn't even dare to call myself one), so hopefully eventually I'll get it.
But it's so frustrating. I feel when I'm playing with the click that I'm in the groove, even the simplest of beats, but when I listen back, it's rubbish!
When I play without a click, it seems so much better to me.
How long did it take you to be able to groove to a click?
Bumping my own thread here....
here's another question.
How do you all feel about volume of the click, etc?
When I first started, I'd have to put the click up loud to get over the sound of the drums. Then I found a solution of using earbuds with ear protection earmuffs that you get at the hardware store. I think they are basically the same thing you get with those isolation headphones.
But anyway, I have found that the quieter I play, the better my timing...just more relaxed all around. I had a tendency with the earmuffs to play louder/harder because I couldn't hear the drums as well even though I could listen to the click now at a more comfortable level.
So what are your thoughts on that aspect?
Absolutely. You can't groove to a click, it won't work. There is a big mental game that goes into playing really well. One thing I have my students do is play a pattern that they already know well and to put all their attention into a particular sensation: such as the stick tip hitting the surface of the drums/cymbals or the vibration of the stick with every stroke, or the feeling of pressure between the hips and the throne.best metronome advice ever given to me many years ago ...
...don't play TO the click. play WITH the click
I had 2 phases in my drumming life, phase one lasted about 14 years and in that time, I had no concept of groove. I didn't think about steady time when I played, I very much played from an emotional space.Hi Larry - would you elaborate a little...
What do you mean when you say you didn't groove for most of your life?
And what did you learn that involved learning to groove?
What are you doing differently?