There are B20 pies in the mix.You guys are cheating! I've no idea what they are. I like smaller size crashes. I currently have 15" & 17", so I can judge these without the size dislike issue getting in the way. I'm still not really liking any of them much, but I like layers of flavour & overtones, these are very single voice pieces. You can tell me this without ruining the thread, are they all B8 & not hand hammered?