Hopefully, but judging players in the real world, where the employment is, can be highly-subjective. Except for organized groups, there is often no standard at all. It's all too frequent that highly "trained" players often have no clue how to play with other musicians in common situations. For some, it's simply an elitist perspective. But for others, nobody at the schools told them that, along with their skill must come a measure of restraint when it comes to applying what they've learned. It's the MI grad "taking over the music world" mentality.What a diploma or a degree does guarantee is that they player is at least at a minimal technical standard. Hopefully that also equates to a musical standard, based on relatively objective marking criteria.
A good attitude is a big part of getting and continuing work, but playing Rachmaninov when the conductor asked for Chopsticks is a bigger problem, and one that a lot of grads suffer from. Of course there are overplayers even without going to school, and that's really another topic.With playing, so much of it comes down to personality.... It's as much about interaction as how you can or can't move your fingers. You might be able to play Rachmaninov 3 as well as anybody else in the room but if the conductor thinks you're an unpleasant person to work with, you won't get hired unless there is an overriding reason to the contrary.
You can go right to the LA Phil website and see that all the percussion section have degrees. Juilliard, UCLA, Cleveland Inst. and the drumset player from a U CAL school.That doesn't mean that a degree is required.
I'm not saying people with degrees don't get gigs. I'm saying they don't get those gig opportunities based solely on the presence of a degree. If ANY of the orchestras advertising themselves to union members required a degree, they wouldn't hesitate to say so. Yet, not one of them did.
I've got an acquaintance in the L.A. Phil percussion section, and I'll ask him 1) if he has a degree in music, 2) what kind, 3) from where, and 4) did it carry any weight in the decision to allow him to audition, or to then hire him.
Just remembered my cousin is a long-time Detroit Symphony member, will ask him as well.
I'm not saying people don't have degrees... I'm saying they don't require them in order to apply or be hired by the orchestras.You can go right to the LA Phil website and see that all the percussion section have degrees. Juilliard, UCLA, Cleveland Inst. and the drumset player from a U CAL school.