Band give aways /Burner sticks

Jml

Senior Member
I would suggest musicians stop crowd surfing or jumping into crowds too. A multi-million dollar verdict against a DJ in California recently.
 

Living Dead Drummer

Platinum Member
Yep. I was going to bring this up. I work for an insurance company that insures music venues, and hear about these lawsuits every day. With this country being as litigious as it is, I’m surprised how many drummers still throw sticks into the crowd. Beware....
This is EXACTLY why I only toss sticks to people close up to the front, and make sure they I am making eye contact with them and they know they are about to get a stick. I also toss lightly so they can catch it. The last thing I want is accidentally hurt someone who isn't paying attention.
 

Jml

Senior Member
Who was recently sued for throwing a stick and injuring some female in attendance. Guitar picks don't hurt.

Todd Sucherman, who has been with the band for 27 years, was playing at a June 28, 2015 show at Aaron’s Amphitheatre in Atlanta, GA when he threw a drumstick into the crowd. The stick hit concertgoer Lori Frederick in the face, according to the lawsuit, cutting her face and “causing serious personal injury”.

Per the suit, “Defendant Sucherman breached the duty of care owed to Plaintiff by willfully and negligently throwing a drumstick into the audience without timely and proper warning to allow Plaintiff to fully protect herself from injury.”
Yep. I was going to bring this up. I work for an insurance company that insures music venues, and hear about these lawsuits every day. With this country being as litigious as it is, I’m surprised how many drummers still throw sticks into the crowd. Beware....
 

GruntersDad

Administrator - Mayor
Who was recently sued for throwing a stick and injuring some female in attendance. Guitar picks don't hurt.

Todd Sucherman, who has been with the band for 27 years, was playing at a June 28, 2015 show at Aaron’s Amphitheatre in Atlanta, GA when he threw a drumstick into the crowd. The stick hit concertgoer Lori Frederick in the face, according to the lawsuit, cutting her face and “causing serious personal injury”.

Per the suit, “Defendant Sucherman breached the duty of care owed to Plaintiff by willfully and negligently throwing a drumstick into the audience without timely and proper warning to allow Plaintiff to fully protect herself from injury.”
 

beyondbetrayal

Platinum Member
I endorse Los Cabos so I get a bit of a discount which takes the sting out. But they are still not free and I don't like to toss my money away.

I tend to toss the ones that are chopped up, worn tips etc. Even keep a few you break at practice in your stick bag for this purpose.

I have my bands logo printed on them so it's a good marketing tool as well.

This whole thing can depend on your bands situation. A guy like Bermuda and myself are in very different spots. As a pro drummer I am assuming he has incorporated and this could be written off as marketing, or an expense.

Another aspect would be a newer drummer or someone paying full price for his sticks. I have told people before that sticks are expensive and I just cant afford it. I find most people are pretty understanding of that. That is much better than just saying NO. Heck you could even offer to sell them the sticks if they don't believe it is the money.

If you gig a lot this also might make a huge difference. At full price I wouldn't toss away a $10 pair of sticks every night. That's a few hundred a month.

If your band becomes pro, and makes a ton of cash you could add sticks with logos to the band fund. Or would most likely get an endorsement at that point.
 

Super Phil

Senior Member
I just tell people that i only give out sticks that are 'used up'. Sometimes i have several, and sometimes i don't have any that are used up, but people seem to respect that.
 

Living Dead Drummer

Platinum Member
My sticks are sold at the merch tables, so if someone catches me and asks for a stick I can direct them there. If I'm doing a gig where merchandise isn't being sold then I politely tell them I don't have enough to give out at the moment. Unless it's a kid, then I'm a sucker lol.

At bigger events I'll sometimes take the sticks that are oddballs to a broken one, or getting to the point of being retired/broken, and toss them out to people in the crowd before leaving the stage.
 

Channing

Member
Funny story. I bet a dollar that in the guys mind, he was a God.

Been there, so I can't say anything. I used to be a God too ha ha.

Yeah I was talking about that with my boyfriend who was there watching the whole thing. Probably the guy thought he was the best musician there, but he seemed like maybe someone who had a lot of experience practicing by himself/along with recordings, and not too much playing with others. No listening skills at all. Just overpowering everyone.. Although, at some point, he did play and sing 'Blister in the Sun' and talk me through the drum part in some way that was understandable to me, having never played the song before, so that was something at least. The biggest problem with him was the volume. Maybe he's played so long without earplugs that he's gone deaf.
 

larryace

"Uncle Larry"
I had once a girl during a show asking for a stick..

I asked her what i would get in return, since no one from the audience also gives us ever anything for free, and for some reason we ended up about her panties..The trade happened right after the show on stage, meaning she took of her pants on stage, gave me her panties and putted her pants back on..I gave her the stick and also the panties back..

I am still not very proud about that..

Another girl once wanted my towel and for that she actually made a nice drawing of myself, which i thought was nice and i still own..
Another good story. I still have a napkin some dude handed me that says You Rock.

I like how you leveraged your power position to your advantage :)
 

oldskoolsoul

Silver Member
I had once a girl during a show asking for a stick..

I asked her what i would get in return, since no one from the audience also gives us ever anything for free, and for some reason we ended up about her panties..The trade happened right after the show on stage, meaning she took of her pants on stage, gave me her panties and putted her pants back on..I gave her the stick and also the panties back..

I am still not very proud about that..

Another girl once wanted my towel and for that she actually made a nice drawing of myself, which i thought was nice and i still own..
 

larryace

"Uncle Larry"
Then a couple days ago we were hosting a jam at a hostel, and this guy comes up to play guitar, which was fine, but then he turned his amp up twice as loud as anyone else's and started playing metal. I played along with him just to humor him and watching my bassist and guitarists faces was pretty hilarious because they had no idea what to play with what he was playing. We're indie rockers, metal is not our thing. Then he asks for a turn on drums and I let him play. I was using a cajon setup with a pedal and a hi hat, snare, crash, and ride, with a pair of hot rods instead of sticks because this was at a hostel in a residential neighborhood on a weekday and we were trying to control the volume. He just starts beating the crap out of everything and pieces of my hot rods were flying all over. I was just kind of watching like, wow.. He totally destroyed them. After we were done I asked him if he'd like to pay for them, and he said he didn't have any money, but I guess his friend felt bad for me so he gave me money for them and said the guy would just owe him.
Some people have no self awareness.. I guess this story wasn't totally related to this thread but it's similarly obnoxious to someone walking up and trying to steal sticks out of your bag.
Funny story. I bet a dollar that in the guys mind, he was a God.

Been there, so I can't say anything. I used to be a God too ha ha.
 

trickg

Silver Member
Baltimore - what's your band's name and where are you gigging? Are you talking about shows at places like Soundstage, or smaller venues like bars and smaller clubs?
 

Channing

Member
I haven't had this happen, but the last show I played with my band, a 3 hour show at a local dive bar, I had someone approach me during a break and ask if he could sit in on drums. I was like, what? I mean, obviously we were playing a set, and I doubt he knew all the songs we were playing, especially the originals. Where do people get off asking this? I don't think it happens to guitarists, but everyone thinks they can play drums.

Then a couple days ago we were hosting a jam at a hostel, and this guy comes up to play guitar, which was fine, but then he turned his amp up twice as loud as anyone else's and started playing metal. I played along with him just to humor him and watching my bassist and guitarists faces was pretty hilarious because they had no idea what to play with what he was playing. We're indie rockers, metal is not our thing. Then he asks for a turn on drums and I let him play. I was using a cajon setup with a pedal and a hi hat, snare, crash, and ride, with a pair of hot rods instead of sticks because this was at a hostel in a residential neighborhood on a weekday and we were trying to control the volume. He just starts beating the crap out of everything and pieces of my hot rods were flying all over. I was just kind of watching like, wow.. He totally destroyed them. After we were done I asked him if he'd like to pay for them, and he said he didn't have any money, but I guess his friend felt bad for me so he gave me money for them and said the guy would just owe him.
Some people have no self awareness.. I guess this story wasn't totally related to this thread but it's similarly obnoxious to someone walking up and trying to steal sticks out of your bag.
 

BruceW

Senior Member
I only play in low level bar/club settings mostly, but I have been asked once or twice, and it was cute, the way it was done. (No, it wasn't that the person asking was cute...heh. Tho that couldn't hurt, I suppose).

I ended up getting a box of sticks as a gift that really are crappy, the tips fly off terribly easily. I keep a pair or two of these in the bag as a "just in case" now. Cuz I can't use them for anything else.
 

mikyok

Platinum Member
Back to the topic, even as a semi amateur pub band drummer I still get asked for sticks every now and then and some people really do seem to take offence when I refuse. Putting myself in their shoes they probably don’t realise how costly they are. And putting myself in the role of concert goer it didn’t stop me acting like a big kid and getting a stick off Johnny Dee last year or three of Pete Ray Biggin’s sticks on two occasions. Audience members also get huffed when they ask for a song and we don’t play it too, ultimately there’s probably alcohol involved and 30 seconds later they’ve forgotten all about it so there’s rarely any harm done.
Sadly it's the world we live in where people try to push their luck and spit their dummy out when they don't get their own way :) Personally I think it's rude and really immature.

They're usually closely related or are the same person that decides to start a conversation with the singer in the middle of a verse because they're more important than the audience you're trying to keep on the dance floor.

If someone throws a stick in the crowd and you catch it that's totally different and they're getting free sticks if they do that.

bermuda said:
They think they know, but they don't know... and they don't know that they don't know.

Ya know?
Ignorance is bliss!
 
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Woolwich

Silver Member
My very first gig was a school Christmas 6th Form concert in 1983. I had one cymbal and knew nothing. I also had one pair of sticks, they were painted yellow and had a black nylon tip, I used them for years. As part of the “show” at the end of our two songs I threw them into the audience. Don’t ask me how I managed the accuracy, especially as I was being dazzled by stage lighting, but they landed in the laps of the friends who I’d pre arranged it with and my sticks were subsequently and secretly returned to me and gave many more months of service.

Back to the topic, even as a semi amateur pub band drummer I still get asked for sticks every now and then and some people really do seem to take offence when I refuse. Putting myself in their shoes they probably don’t realise how costly they are. And putting myself in the role of concert goer it didn’t stop me acting like a big kid and getting a stick off Johnny Dee last year or three of Pete Ray Biggin’s sticks on two occasions. Audience members also get huffed when they ask for a song and we don’t play it too, ultimately there’s probably alcohol involved and 30 seconds later they’ve forgotten all about it so there’s rarely any harm done.
 

bermuda

Drummerworld Pro Drummer - Administrator
People saying nasty things on social media because you don't give your hard earn things away isn't anything to lose sleep over.
They think they know, but they don't know... and they don't know that they don't know.

Ya know?

Bermuda
 

Xeno

Member
I used to throw the sticks I used during the show out into the crowd, but that was back in the 80's..when things were relatively cheap. Now $10 a pair for Japanese oak sticks? I'll use them until they splinter.
 

mikyok

Platinum Member
People saying nasty things on social media because you don't give your hard earn things away isn't anything to lose sleep over.

I saw Tool last week and I'm offended Danny Carey didn't throw a stick in my direction. Totally ruined the gig ;). See how silly it sounds!
 

bermuda

Drummerworld Pro Drummer - Administrator
For me, it has less to do with whether the sticks are cheap or free for me, as with their usability. I never carry enough sticks that I can hand out ones that are still good. I've had signature sticks from a few companies, and will hand out broken or end-of-life sticks (that are no longer good to me) to fans or local crew who ask. Occasionally I'll hand out a usable or even new stick or pair, but it has to be a special recipient such as somebody's child who's learning drums. I also send a fresh, personally autographed pair for charity auctions (along with a used drumhead signed by Al.)

Bermuda
 
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