Are skype lessons effective?

Out Of Warranty

Senior Member
The title says it all. Are Skype lessons effective?

I need a one-on-one instructor/mentor/coach, but can't seem to find one locally in the East Valley of Phoenix. So, I have been thinking of trying to do it online. I am not interested in joining a web site, I would rather develop a relationship with a professional instructor, just like private lessons, but only virtual.

I am curious to hear from students and instructors on the pro's and con's and the gear I would need. My kit is mic'ed up into a R16, but I would need to upgrade my PC.

I don't expect it to be the same as in-person, but like the title says, is it effective? Is it close to the real thing?

I apologize if there already is a thread on this.

Thanks for any input.
 

KamaK

Platinum Member
Distance lessons are a viable alternative IFF (if and only if) in-person lessons are not an option. Their main advantages over pre-recorded lessons are interactivity and instant feedback.

If you cannot get in-person lessons, and pre-recorded lessons aren't working, give a live-distance lesson a shot. Worst case is you're out the $50 and a bit wiser.
 

toddbishop

Platinum Member
In teaching them, I've found they're virtually as good as working in person. The only things lacking are that I can't look around a check out technique as easily, and I don't play as much, so the student doesn't get to look at my technique. Those are fairly small issues for me, and I can work around them if I feel they need to be addressed.

One of the things that gets overlooked re: getting a teacher locally is that you're dealing with a professional in your own community-- kind of an important thing. But for just learning drumming, skype lessons are good.

The online things where they look at your video once a week and give you feedback I think are worthless. The entire point of lessons is that everything questionable can be addressed instantly, with an appropriate answer for that individual student at his or her present stage of development.

All you need set up-wise is a decent web connection, computer, decent web cam, and a headset-- headphones with a mic. Just doing video calls on skype doesn't demand a lot of computer resources, so if your computer was manufactured this decade you should be fine.
 

AzHeat

Platinum Member
Hello fellow Gilbertian. Glad to see I'm not the only one out here that can't find a decent instructor. There's a top notch guy in the Cave Creek area, but I forget his name. He only teaches till 6PM, so us working lackies can't get to him from the east side. I've been contemplating doing skype and online lessons too.

Not sure why you'd need a new PC for Skype. Any webcam would do and you can just use the mic you have. Should work well enough for that purpose.
 

Red Menace

Platinum Member
How have you looked? There are a lot of great teacher in the East valley, sometimes it can be a bit of a search to find the right one though.

Have you heard of Dom Moio? He is in the EV, very good teacher but he is not cheap.
 

Alex Sanguinetti

Silver Member
In a SKYPE lesson on-line drum lesson with me you can do what you want, learn a lick (chosen by you - I will transcribe it and explain it), a rhythm (same thing), have an specific course (example: on reading, jazz, etc) or any questions you have on mind I will answer.

It can be a one time thing or a course, you just pay each lesson you want to take and that´s it, nothing in advance just one lesson at the time.
I´m teaching with SKYPE one on one, I speak 5 languages:

English
Spanish
Italian
Portugues
German

* The PRICE is 1 hour = 28 Dollar * with Paypal


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You can CHECK OUT MY PLAYING, here:


Youtube Videos:

1) Rudiments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0t_l5mv1cg

2) Medium Tempo (8´s): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t0XzNlIdu8

3) Up Tempo (12´s on Blues): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6kGkGZuQtc

4) STUDENTS (9 of them, plus me at minute 10:37): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTCxU8chn-4


You can watch more VIDEOS at my Website:

WEBPAGE:

http://www.alexsanguinetti.com/english.html


Some places I taught and gave seminars:

Drummers Collective, New York, USA //
Richard Strauss Konservatorium Munich, Germany //
Long Island Drum Center, New York, USA //
Camerloher Musikschule, Murnau, Germany //
etc.

I studied with:
Tony Williams
Billy Hart
Jeff Watts
Jeff Hirschfeld
Mark Mondesir
Kenny Clare
Terry Clarke
John Riley
etc.

Played with:
Clark Terry, Kenny Wheeler, Joe Lovano, Danilo Pérez, Rick Margitza, Conrad Herwig, Leo Wright, Renato Chicco, Fareed Haque, Walt Weiskopf, Ralph Lalama, Walter Norris, Marc Copland, Herb Geller, Barbara Dennerlein, Santi Debriano, Jim Snidero, Bireli Lagrene, etc.


Best regards!

Alex Sanguinetti

 
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Out Of Warranty

Senior Member
How have you looked? There are a lot of great teacher in the East valley, sometimes it can be a bit of a search to find the right one though.

Have you heard of Dom Moio? He is in the EV, very good teacher but he is not cheap.
Thanks, -Just internet searches. This is only part of it though. What I'm really looking for is someone who's primary genre is jazz - someone who eats, drinks and sleeps it. This is where I want to take my drumming. With that said, I need help comping and swinging my 8th notes.
 

Out Of Warranty

Senior Member
In teaching them, I've found they're virtually as good as working in person. The only things lacking are that I can't look around a check out technique as easily, and I don't play as much, so the student doesn't get to look at my technique. Those are fairly small issues for me, and I can work around them if I feel they need to be addressed.

One of the things that gets overlooked re: getting a teacher locally is that you're dealing with a professional in your own community-- kind of an important thing. But for just learning drumming, skype lessons are good.

The online things where they look at your video once a week and give you feedback I think are worthless. The entire point of lessons is that everything questionable can be addressed instantly, with an appropriate answer for that individual student at his or her present stage of development.

All you need set up-wise is a decent web connection, computer, decent web cam, and a headset-- headphones with a mic. Just doing video calls on skype doesn't demand a lot of computer resources, so if your computer was manufactured this decade you should be fine.
Todd, funny you replied. It was your CSD web site that got me started thinking about Skype.

Are you taking students? If so, I will send you an email with details. Thanks
 

Out Of Warranty

Senior Member
In a SKYPE lesson on-line drum lesson with me you can do what you want, learn a lick (chosen by you - I will transcribe it and explain it), a rhythm (same thing), have an specific course (example: on reading, jazz, etc) or any questions you have on mind I will answer.

It can be a one time thing or a course, you just pay each lesson you want to take and that´s it, nothing in advance just one lesson at the time.
I´m teaching with SKYPE one on one, I speak 5 languages:

English
Spanish
Italian
Portugues
German

* The PRICE is 1 hour = 28 Dollar * with Paypal


FEEDBACK: In this site several members took some so they can´t tell you...:

FEEDBACK FROM DRUMMERWORLD FORUM

1) http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1456871&postcount=9

2) http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1456879&postcount=11

3) http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1457047&postcount=15

4) http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1439545&postcount=2

5) FEEDBACK FROM CYMBALHOLIC FORUM (only viewable if you are a member there): http://www.cymbalholic.com/forums/showthread.php?1660-Private-Online-lessons&p=141023&viewfull=1#post14102



You can CHECK OUT MY PLAYING, here:


Youtube Videos:

1) Rudiments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0t_l5mv1cg

2) Medium Tempo (8´s): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t0XzNlIdu8

3) Up Tempo (12´s on Blues): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6kGkGZuQtc

4) STUDENTS (9 of them, plus me at minute 10:37): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTCxU8chn-4


You can watch more VIDEOS at my Website:

WEBPAGE:

http://www.alexsanguinetti.com/english.html


Some places I taught and gave seminars:

Drummers Collective, New York, USA //
Richard Strauss Konservatorium Munich, Germany //
Long Island Drum Center, New York, USA //
Camerloher Musikschule, Murnau, Germany //
etc.

I studied with:
Tony Williams
Billy Hart
Jeff Watts
Jeff Hirschfeld
Mark Mondesir
Kenny Clare
Terry Clarke
John Riley
etc.

Played with:
Clark Terry, Kenny Wheeler, Joe Lovano, Danilo Pérez, Rick Margitza, Conrad Herwig, Leo Wright, Renato Chicco, Fareed Haque, Walt Weiskopf, Ralph Lalama, Walter Norris, Marc Copland, Herb Geller, Barbara Dennerlein, Santi Debriano, Jim Snidero, Bireli Lagrene, etc.


Best regards!

Alex Sanguinetti

Impressive. Thanks.
 

AzHeat

Platinum Member
Hmmm. The name Dom Moio Red Menace provided seems to breath, eat and sleep jazz. He may be right down your alley. I'd never heard of him either, so may have to drop him a line.
 

bermuda

Drummerworld Pro Drummer - Administrator
Staff member
I know Dom, he's your guy. He may be expensive, but you get what you pay for when you need expertise.

Phoenix is a BIG city... it's hard to imagine there's not a teacher within 20 miles. In case you're not a member of the Facebook group Phoenix Area Drummers, it's worth joining and asking there as well. Lots more Phx guys there than here, I'd think

Bermuda
 

Out Of Warranty

Senior Member
I know Dom, he's your guy. He may be expensive, but you get what you pay for when you need expertise.

Phoenix is a BIG city... it's hard to imagine there's not a teacher within 20 miles. In case you're not a member of the Facebook group Phoenix Area Drummers, it's worth joining and asking there as well. Lots more Phx guys there than here, I'd think

Bermuda
Thanks. Didn't think of Facebook.
 

Alex Sanguinetti

Silver Member
What would an 8 year old be doing with SKYPE, hahaha! (I think, anyway, you can do that, teach how to hold the sticks to an 8 year old child through SKYPE).

Whatever, I think "Out Of Warranty" is a little bit older than that...

Best regards to Norway! (Jon Christensen, etc.)

P.S.: Actually I´m teaching a 7 year old kid Kojo Roney licks because is his idol (he learned about him from me).
 

bermuda

Drummerworld Pro Drummer - Administrator
Staff member
I haven't had direct experience with Skype lessons, but I do know that at least some developmental things need to be conveyed with someone looking and listening over your shoulder, with immediate, sometimes physical feedback and correction. It may be something as simple yet crucial as moving the student's fingers or wrist into a certain position, or demonstrating certain stroke inflections.

But I would agree that the resources available from online instructors (as well as books) far outweigh the knowledge available from a single teacher in one-on-one lessons. If I was going to return to taking lessons - and several bandmates have suggested it's a good idea! - I would seriously consider a Skype instructor.

Bermuda
 
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