DRUM INSTRUCTION DVD & BOOK REVIEWS

[king fail]

Has anyone got ahold of Benny G's DVD yet?
Even if it's awful (very, VERY unlikely), I'll still pick up a copy; Benny's a frickin superhero man.

[Jivi]

NAME:
Benny Greb: The Language of Drumming

STAR RATING:
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WORDED RATING:
The usefulness of the concepts in this DVD are amazing, it touches on aspects that many drummers sadly do not notice and the material in the DVD will help anyone.

TARGET AUDIENCE:
Everyone

PUBLISHED BY:
Hudson

DESCRIPTION:
Benny structures this DVD to start from the foundation right up to combining all aspects of playing. The system he has created is like a language in that drumming is made up of letters, then those letters can be put together to create words and then sentences. This may sound like some sort of typical analogy you may hear but this DVD is not typical.

This isn't a DVD that throws a few patterns at you or licks for you to learn. The exercises are EXTREMELY flexible and can be made as easy or as complex as you want on the kit. It is hard to explain but the amount of useful content you can get from this DVD is amazing.

Benny demonstrates almost all of the exercises he mentions. He also talks about timing, exploring different sound sources and other essential aspects to improve your musicality.

The visual quality of the DVD deserves a mention as it definitely makes the footage more interesting to look at.

Benny has performances in between some sections with a fantastic solo at the end. There is also a PDF file on one disc that has some of the exercises explained or written out. There is also some bonus material on the second DVD with tour footage and other miscellaneous videos.

I have only seen this DVD once and so I can't think of everything I just saw right now, but I can truly say that it was worth my $80 that it cost me to get.

[Joe P]

How about Russ Miller's new DVD, Arrival? Has anyone picked up a copy yet?

[Alex Luce]

Greb is Great! Love this groove/solo:

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/bennygreb20081.html

[hitman050]

How is Rich Lackowski's book on progressive drumming? I'm thinking of buying it, any reviews?

[lowhatten]

Double Trouble Drums by Chris "Whipper" Leyton.

This DVD covers his style of playing blues shuffle beats.
The lessons (exercises) are 18 and are shown fast, slow and with a band.
If you like the drumming on Stevie Ray Vaughan's records this one is for you!

Steve Smith - Drum Legacy

This DVD is the shit for all jazzdrummers. 100% jazz and awesome lessons.

I found them on internet so i got it for free, but it is well worth the money if you buy it.

[bjparadiddle]

A book many seem to overlook is Ed Soph's "Musical Time, A Source Book for Jazz Drumming." It's the only book I've seen that addresses playing jazz ride rhythms as they are played by jazz drummers like Tony Williams, Louis Hayes, Jimmy Cobb, etc.

I read one review of Soph's book that dismissed it as "too basic." Wrong! The exercises start with simple rhythms, but soon progress. Sure, you'll not find the complicated independence gyrations you'll find in "Coordinated Independence For the Jazz Drummer," but you'll perhaps find something even more valuable--the ability to play swinging, breathing jazz time that your fellow musicians will prefer to the locked-in limitations imposed by the standard ride pattern found in most drumming tutorials. And when the later chapters of the book are played at faster tempos, you'll unlock the secret of the Cobb/Williams/Klook type ride rhythms that made the sound of those drummers sound so expansive and open-ended.

I sent a letter to Soph, complimenting him on his book, and encouraged him to write a second book that expands on the knowledge found in the first. He said he's working on a second book that will deal with broken cymbal rhythms and various time signatures.

I have worked as a professional jazz drummer for over 30 years. And I have purchased, and studied from, many drum books. For an introduction to playing swinging jazz time, I find "Musical Time" to be among the best introductory methods of playing jazz time on a drum set.

[Deltadrummer]

Author: John Riley

Name: The Master Drummer

Rating: *****

Target Audience: This DVD is a great asset to novices, seasoned players and educators.

Publisher: Alfred Publishing Co.

Description:

John Riley’s new DVD release The Master Drummer is an in-depth look at characteristic of great drumming. John brings over forty years of teaching and performing experience with Jazz notables including: Dizzy Gillespie, Miles Davis, Milt Jackson and John Scofield, into a unique discussion of four aspects that drummers need to possess for success: technique, groove, creativity and musicianship. The video includes the basics of hand and foot technique. Its main features are the many phrasing exercises and fill ideas for the beginning students as well as the more advanced learner from some of the greatest drummer including Roy Haynes, Philly Jo Jones and Max Roach. These are also included on a PDF file, which can be printed for easy accessibility. The video includes many ideas about practicing, talent, and an analysis of recordings where he discusses how technique and coordination are used to serve the musical needs of the ensemble. . As such this is a great asset for rock, funk, jazz and Latin drummers alike and offers a superb addition to his groundbreaking books The Art of Bop Drumming and Beyond Bop Drumming.

[SickRick]

I had a review up here from Benny Grebs DVD that wasn't that good. Apparantly, I've showed the DVD to many of my students and they all love it. Not only that - basically everybody who watches it is so impressed with the picture quality and Bennys way of explaining stuff that they all think it's one of the best DVDs ever shot about drumming. So I decided to remove my review because for the target audience this DVD seems to deserve a much better rating that I had given it.

Sorry about that.

On the other hand: It's never too late to change your mind about something.

[donv]

I just saw this Benny Grebb DVD at Drum Depot in Toledo. The alphabet, word thing was done by Phil Perkins in the 70's. Nothing new here.

[NewChops]

I just recently launched my website where I upload videos explaining new drum fills and ideas. Check it out and see if you think it's any good. Most of the things I'm "teaching", if that's what you want to call it, are for more advanced drummers, but I try to break it down so anyone can understand it. Since this is a review forum, I'd appreciate it if people checked it out and reviewed or gave feedback on the small amount of clips that I have on it. Thanks

www.newchops.com

[Loui]

Author: Easy Music Lessons

Title: The drum collection

Star Rating: * * * * * (out of 5)

Review:

Well, first let me say that I've never trusted drum instructional sites. I've always had some pre-judgment like "this is lame" fashion. I'd always thought that this thing was not for me. But, last year I needed some extra cash (my gf got fired but our mortgage was still there) so, I've started to work at nite. That interrupted my practice sessions and my willing to teach. So, I decided to try with this DVD set to see if I could get some ideas, and well, did blow my mind away. Not only the material is great, also the drumming approach and a logical learning sequence. Brandon went from the basics to really advanced studies, and It didn't cost me that much. It is a 5 DVD package all in one and the one who is covering the funk style, really gets into depth of many variations of styles. Really Worth it!.

[branflakes992]

Book: The Drummer's Complete Vocabulary as taught by Alan Dawson
Author: John Ramsay
Rating: # # # # #
Review: I started working on this stuff about 10 months ago and its fantastic. The rudimental ritual will give you a complete grasp of every important rudiment and a few more things that will help develop your chops. The various interpretation ideas for the Syncopation Book (by ted reed) will give you a lot of jazz vocabulary in the simplest way. All you have to do is follow the instructions and work hard on it. Great stuff every one interested in playing jazz needs to get. Alan taught people like Tony Williams, Billy Kilson, Terri Lyne Carrington, Kenwood Dennard and many more.

GREAT BOOK! Absolutely beneficial to ANY drummer.

[branflakes992]

The Ultimate Drumset Reading Anthology. Is it any good for reading practice?

[Cross]

Greetings,

In the Tommy Igoe DVD's I've noticed there isn't an angle that shows what his foot is doing. Is this the case on both DVD's? and if so where do you find the bass pattern? I was considering purchasing these sets..

Thanks

[drummmhead]

Greetings,

In the Tommy Igoe DVD's I've noticed there isn't an angle that shows what his foot is doing. Is this the case on both DVD's? and if so where do you find the bass pattern? I was considering purchasing these sets..

Thanks

Absolutely not true. There are bass drum shots on both DVD's but it's (thankfully) not onscreen the entire time. But in answer to your question about the bass drum pattern, you use the thing that Tommy is so adamant about developing; your ears! The patterns are all explained slowly and clearly and you can see (on paper and included poster) and hear on the DVD exactly what he's doing. If you are interested in playing grooves in bands, Groove Essentials is the way to go. They totally changed my drumming vocabulary. Just ask my bandmates! :)

[paradiddler]

NAME:

“Stick Technique” by Jim McCarthy

STAR RATING:

# # # #

WORDED RATING:

An in-depth analysis on proper gripping of the drumsticks for mastery of your kit, with increased hand speed and efficiency of movement

TARGET AUDIENCE:

Beginner to advanced – good for the beginner so they can start off practicing correctly for fast gains in speed, and for advanced to review current playing and to adjust accordingly, if necessary; a great reference

PUBLISHED BY:

StickTechnique.com (http://0c81emhqhyt5h7gn05hc01j24r.hop.clickbank.net/)

DESCRIPTION:

“Stick Technique” is an e-book that explains in great detail how to properly hold your sticks in a way that will dramatically improve your speed, on the snare and all around the kit. In it you'll find in-depth discussions regarding the fulcrum, traditional vs. matched grip, the importance of dynamics, understanding pivot points, rudiment essentials, and so much more. Very well illustrated with diagrams and pictures – a fantastic reference. For an in-depth review at TheParadiddler.com, click here (http://theparadiddler.com/2009/08/23/book-review-stick-technique-jim-mccarthy/).

[dr_Zenon]

Hi and sorry for my english

I would ask about "Fred Dinkins - It's About Time".

This book is unavailable in my country, so I'm wondering is it worth to pay for a shipment from other countries.

Does any body work with this book?

[Bewdy]

I have recently launched a completely unique product which is a drum teaching app for the iPhone, Mapex Drum Masterclass.

The idea of the app is to learn to read drum music while on the move, using the on screen snare drum to practise the patterns. It's aimed at beginner drummers, or those who have never quite managed to learn to read the music theory and musical notation. Please check it out http://www.mapexdrummasterclass.com

I'm always looking for feedback for the app, and everything that has been said about the app so far has been very positive.

[paradiddler]

NAME:

“Drumming System" by Mike Michalkow

STAR RATING:

# # # # #

WORDED RATING:

An all-inclusive DVD-based course for the beginner and intermediate drummer detailing the basics, the foundation for great drumming. Advanced drummers will also find new and interesting ideas

TARGET AUDIENCE:

Mainly beginner to intermediate – beginner because all that's needed to start playing drums is there; intermediate because you'll add new tools to your 'toolbox', plus brush up on current skills

PUBLISHED BY:

Railroad Media (http://www.musiciansrecommend.com/198.html)

DESCRIPTION:

“Drumming System" is a jam-packed instructional course, just released, that covers everything a new drummer needs to get started properly in playing the drums, with a plethora of instruction for intermediate and advanced players as well. A full review of the course, with Mike Michalkow as the instructor, can be found at TheParadiddler.com via this link (http://theparadiddler.com/2009/09/15/dvd-review-mike-michalkow-drumming-system/).

[Rareform]

Has anyone tried Johnny Rabb's 30 days to better hands? Wondering if it's effective.

[rhdrum2009]

any one know any thing on learn and master drums program??

[HumDrummer]

I'll make a suggestion for those who want low cost instructional drumming video's. Join Netflix and order from their list of videos. I've gotten several which are great and have helped, without having to spend a fortune.
They have videos for beginners and professionals alike, so choose your category and have at it!
Happy Drumming :-)

[Darbuka]

NAME:
Fingers of Fury- Online Arabic Drumming Tuition

STAR RATING:
#####

WORDED RATING:
An awesome resource site with a fantastic community. Five stars!!!

TARGET AUDIENCE:
Intermediate to advanced

PUBLISHED BY:
Fingers of Fury (http://www.fingersoffury.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1&Itemid=2)

DESCRIPTION:
This is a subscription based website that specialises in darbuka (Arabic hand drum) and frame drums such as the Riq, Bendir and Daf.
The site also features the e-book 'Percussion of the Arabic World and Beyond.'
http://www.fingersoffury.com.au
http://www.darbukaplayer.com (review)

[SpiritofRush]

Hi,

I'm interested in purchasing a book on Polyrhythms and Prog Rock Elements such as Odd time signatures, and such. I already know how to do them, but I want to get more in depth, and I thought there'd be good books out there. I'm thinking of purchasing Mike Mangini's book "Rhythm Knowledge" and/or one of the 2 Gavin Harrison books. Does anyone have any more suggestions? Please feel free to email me @ HoxterDrums@yahoo.com

Thanks,
Andrew

[marin]

http://www.hudsonmusic.com/hudson/wp-content/uploads/benny-cover_final_02.jpg

for me, THE instructional dvd of the year

[Jeremy Bender]

TITLE: Show Drumming (Book & CD) also the DVD
AUTHOR: Ed Shaughnessy & Clem DeRosa
PUBLISHER: Hal Leonard
RATING: (same as for DVD) ****
COMMENTS: A great combination of a book/cd that has the charts on the DVD "Time, Taste,Technique,Timber."

I'm really enjoying studying this material for intermediate level players and bandleaders alike.
Ed is a great Big-Band dummer and clinician who can explain concepts and techniques with authority and clarity of thought. The charts are written in a typical style that's seen in a lot of books for shows and musicals. The DVD features Ed explaining the musical considerations and techniques for each of the charts that are performed by a live Big-Band.

Highly recommended for high-school stage band or anyone wanting to learn these various styles from one of the best all around drummers there is.

[georgetell]

Wow! Thanks, you guys, for all of the positive comments about my DVD. That really means a lot to me.

Cheers.

[JBeat]

Has anyone tried out this DVD set? I've always liked their free instructional videos and thought about asking for this system for Christmas...

http://www.drummerstore.com/products/drumming-system.php

[funkyrick]

Someone asked me to post a link to my new DVD. Here it is..........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=878KACRTrSI&feature=related

[MisterMixelpix]

TITLE: Extreme Metal Drumming 101

BY: Flo Mounier of Cryptopsy

STAR RATING: #####

WORDED RATING: For fans of death metal and its variants. Flo Mounier is amongst the gods. Lightning fast, technical, and immensely creative, there aren't many others of his caliber that deserver their own DVDs. That said, this is a DVD that really strips it all down and gives the viewer the building blocks for the kind of drumming that Flo does. Exercises, drills, techniques, positioning, everything. Then he gives you transcriptions of a few of his songs so you can put it to good use.

TARGET AUDIENCE: Intermediate. A lot of what he explains IS basic, but he's explaining it for those who intend to use it for the kind of technical drumming that Flo specializes in. As such, it's far from a beginner video. At the same time, the advice he gives is too basic for the advanced drummer.

GET IT AT: http://www.flomounier.com/en_dvd.html

[phfreq]

Has anyone tried/used/bought the "hihat master" book by ydna murd? Any comments/reviews?

http://www.drumgate.com/Drum_Books/drum_books.html

Thanks!


p.s. took this part out from the hihat musicality thread.

[paradiddler]

NAME:
Unburying the Beater, by Matt Ritter

STAR RATING:
# # # # #

WORDED RATING:

An exceptional instructional DVD that doesn't repeat what's already out there. And even though it's been out for a few years, it's still fresh. A unique approach to bass drum technique that will at least make you think seriously about your own playing

TARGET AUDIENCE:

All drummers: for beginners to establish a strong foundation of bass drum play, all the way up to advanced, for those who want to add a new 'tool' to the toolbox. Also for those who are frustrated with their bass drum play, and drumming in general

PUBLISHED BY:

UnburyingtheBeater.com

DESCRIPTION:

One of my favorite drum instruction videos, Matt Ritter explains very logically how his "Unburying the Beater" approach to bass drum play can significantly improve your overall drumming, not just the bass drum. I've written a full review of the DVD (http://theparadiddler.com/2010/01/26/dvd-review-unburying-the-beater/), which you can read at your leisure. A must have!

[phfreq]

NAME:
Unburying the Beater, by Matt Ritter

STAR RATING:
# # # # #

WORDED RATING:

An exceptional instructional DVD that doesn't repeat what's already out there. And even though it's been out for a few years, it's still fresh. A unique approach to bass drum technique that will at least make you think seriously about your own playing

TARGET AUDIENCE:

All drummers: for beginners to establish a strong foundation of bass drum play, all the way up to advanced, for those who want to add a new 'tool' to the toolbox. Also for those who are frustrated with their bass drum play, and drumming in general

PUBLISHED BY:

UnburyingtheBeater.com

DESCRIPTION:

One of my favorite drum instruction videos, Matt Ritter explains very logically how his "Unburying the Beater" approach to bass drum play can significantly improve your overall drumming, not just the bass drum. I've written a full review of the DVD (http://theparadiddler.com/2010/01/26/dvd-review-unburying-the-beater/), which you can read at your leisure. A must have!


Thanks for this review! I've been thinking if this DVD is worth. Now I'll get one. Thanks!

[mikeveny]

After many, many hours of watching the dvds, working through the material, and gathering my thoughts, I wrote a review of Mike Michalkow's Complete Drumming System (http://mikeveny.com/video-drum-lessons/learn-drums/drumming-system).

Is the Drumming System (http://mikeveny.com/video-drum-lessons/learn-drums/drumming-system) for everyone? I'm not sure. Click here (http://mikeveny.com/video-drum-lessons/learn-drums/drumming-system) to read my review.

Has anyone tried it?

[oneguy]

NAME:
Secret Weapons for the Modern Drummer - by JoJo Mayer

STAR RATING:
# # # # # (#)

WORDED RATING:
I took a quick look and didn't find anyone who has reviewed this DVD, so I figured I would correct this. I give this DVD an optional 6th star simply because it blew me away!

TARGET AUDIENCE:
All playing levels - Anyone looking to improve their hand technique.

PUBLISHED BY:
Hudson Limited

DESCRIPTION:
In this DVD, Mayer covers pretty much every good hand technique there is. Although this DVD is more encyclopedic than most others, Jojo really has a great way of explaining the techniques crisply and accurately. Plus the grooves he throws in really show off what's capable when you bust out the "secret weapons". Personally, I am just learning Moeller strokes (correctly this time around) but I know that there is so much more to cover. I can't wait to get to the push-pull, and one handed roll! Jojo is a phenomenal drummer and I have gained much from his instruction with this DVD.

DITTO....!!!!!

Just got this today and man can that guy play! 3hrs of good solid technique that is all explained VERY well. After viewing this vid I don't know whether to quit or push on.....lol
There's a LOT that a beginner like me can use and I'll have the vid when I progress to tackling the harder stuff. GREAT vid........imho

[Geri Attrique]

Is this book out of print?

The Technique and Mechanics of Rudimental Snare Drumming by Ken Mazur;
not sure if it is actually called The Technique and Mechanics of Competitive Rudimental Snare Drumming

I cannot find it anywhere online for sale (including the bay of E) and I cannot find a copy in the Toronto public library catalogue...

[Geri Attrique]

Tried checking University of Toronto Library as well...no such luck. Does anyone know of any good second hand music book shops online?

[OneDrumCircle]

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[jackportd]

Hello guys

Has anyone reviewed Jared Falk's "bassdrumming Secrets" dvd?

Reply With Quote?
Thanks in advance.

[wy yung]

Motivic drumset soloing.
Author. Terry O'Mahoney.

Recently I have begun using this book in order to teach students how to build creative solos based on ideas such as phrases played and built upon, call and response, logical construction etc etc. The above book has been useful in helping my endeavors.

The book is not for the basic beginner. I'd recommend at least a full 2 years of instruction or more before presenting it to the new drumset student. Intermediate drummers will benefit from this book having developed a degree of technical ability but unsure how to put it to use in solo form. More advanced working drummers may also find this text useful.

Although O'Mahoney plays the ideas on the CD in a jazz context, this should not limit the text to this or any one style. For example, rock drummers can use this text without any problem.

I highly recommend this book.

Possibly the easiest way for me to describe the contents is simply to list the contents chapter by chapter.

Chapter 1. Motivic development concepts.
1. Rhythmic motives.
2. Repetition.
3. Sequence.
4. Fragmentation.
5. Extension.
6. Augmentation.
7. Diminution.
8. Retrogade.
9. Inversion.
10. Embellishment.
11. Simplification.
12. Rhythmic displacement.
13. Summary.

Chapter 2. Musical concepts.
1. Orchestrate the melody.
2. Through-Composed solos vs. Motivic development.
3. Filler material.
4. Rolls.
5. Special effects.
6. Soloing over ostinato patterns.
7. Call and response.
8. Quoting.
9. Musical landmarks.
10. Odd groupings.
11. Polyrhythms.
12. Double time feel.
13. Varying rhythmic density.
14. Soloing in odd time signatures, (3/4, 5/4, 7/4)
15. Pick ups.
16. Ending solos.
17. Soloing over long musical forms.
18. Maintaining place in a song form.
19. Time solos vs. Outright solos.

Chapter 3. Additional concepts.
1. Abstract concepts/ideas.
2. Analyzing solos.
3. Sample drum solos.

Discography of motivic solos.

[Amesema]

Does anyone have Keith Carlock's dvd 'The Big Picture'? I'm a fan of his playing and am thinking of getting it.

Also, Jojo's secret weapons was the greatest drumming video I have ever seen. It seriously added a whole new level to my playing and watching him play is seriously inspiring. Thanks Jojo!

[Thorshammer69]

Hello all.
I am new to this site, and drumming as well.

I have a couple questions that have to do with vids for beginners.
1. As a beginner, is it better to have an instructer as opposed to learning from vids so as not to develop bad
technique?
2. Is 41 too old to start playing drums?
3. Is Jojos secret weapons, and Pat Petrillos hands/grooves/fills really for true beginners?

[jonescrusher]

Hello all.
I am new to this site, and drumming as well.

I have a couple questions that have to do with vids for beginners.
1. As a beginner, is it better to have an instructer as opposed to learning from vids so as not to develop bad
technique?
2. Is 41 too old to start playing drums?
3. Is Jojos secret weapons, and Pat Petrillos hands/grooves/fills really for true beginners?


1. Yes

2. No

3. Can't vouch for Petrillo's work, but it would be better to use Jojo Mayer's DVD under the guidance of a teacher, it goes into a lot of technical detail

If you can't get a teacher, try 'Getting started on drums' by Tommy Igoe, he's an excellent instructor.

[Thorshammer69]

1. Yes

2. No

3. Can't vouch for Petrillo's work, but it would be better to use Jojo Mayer's DVD under the guidance of a teacher, it goes into a lot of technical detail

If you can't get a teacher, try 'Getting started on drums' by Tommy Igoe, he's an excellent instructor.

Thanks Jonescrusher.
I purchased the T. Igoe, and was looking for the next step.
Thanks again.

[Scott S.]

Thanks Jonescrusher.
I purchased the T. Igoe, and was looking for the next step.
Thanks again.

Hi Thor,

I'm a beginner and have working from Petrillo's Hands, Grooves, and Fills and Igoe's Great Hands for a Lifetime and have gotten a lot from both. I would definitely recommend them.

Scott

[Thorshammer69]

Thanks Scott.
I see you live in NC. So do I.
Thanks again.

[paradiddler]

NAME:
Learn and Master Drums

STAR RATING:
# # # # #

WORDED RATING:
A thorough, well thought-out complete drumming instruction course covering everything an aspiring drummer needs to get started playing drums; also for intermediate players wanting to hone certain skills

TARGET AUDIENCE:
Mostly for beginners, and to a lesser extent intermediate players but they certainly will also benefit; not so much for advanced players except to glean ideas from a fellow pro

PUBLISHED BY:
Legacy Learning Systems

DESCRIPTION:
I found this to be a great course, especially for the beginner, to hit the ground running as far as learning to play the drums. Instructor Dann Sherrill is a very patient and kind teacher interested in the student having fun while gaining the skills necessary to make drumming fun, with a solid foundation. In addition to teaching the basics, Mr. Sherrill shows how to use the newly acquired skills to play different genres of music, and what you need to know to play in a band setting.

Please read the complete review (http://theparadiddler.com/2010/08/02/dvd-review-learn-and-master-drums/) and see if it's for you! A very well put together program worth serious consideration.

[drummerboy54]

I bought the Seth Davis DVD called the Moeller Killer. My advice: Save your money. For $60.00 you get a little stapled brochure of exercises and on the DVD you get about 2 min. of "instruction" followed by about 30 min. of watching him play the exercises in the brochure.
Granted, he has amazing hands, but when you look at the quality of JoJo's DVD or others that focus on technique, in my opinion, this DVD leaves you wishing you saved your money.

[PaulBestDrummer]

Hi Thor,

I'm a beginner and have working from Petrillo's Hands, Grooves, and Fills and Igoe's Great Hands for a Lifetime and have gotten a lot from both. I would definitely recommend them.

Scott

I strongly endorse Tommy Igoe's Great Hands DVD. I like it just for the fact that he encourages drummers to jam with each other on practice pads. Grab a friend and do a few bars of Stick Control! Develop your hands AND your ears! Four hands are better than two!

[Kosmische]

Is this book out of print?

The Technique and Mechanics of Rudimental Snare Drumming by Ken Mazur;
not sure if it is actually called The Technique and Mechanics of Competitive Rudimental Snare Drumming

I cannot find it anywhere online for sale (including the bay of E) and I cannot find a copy in the Toronto public library catalogue...

Try this link and see if this takes you anywhere.

http://www.rudimentaldrumming.com/rudrev.html

I found it on a wbsite called www.rudimentaldrumming.com. The page I looked at says the book is back in print but obviously I don't know how up to date the page or even the site itself is.

Let me know how you get on.

Al " I cannot stand the sound of bagpipes" from Scotland

[daviddwilson]

I bought the Seth Davis DVD called the Moeller Killer. My advice: Save your money. For $60.00 you get a little stapled brochure of exercises and on the DVD you get about 2 min. of "instruction" followed by about 30 min. of watching him play the exercises in the brochure.
Granted, he has amazing hands, but when you look at the quality of JoJo's DVD or others that focus on technique, in my opinion, this DVD leaves you wishing you saved your money.

I found this to be a great course, especially for the beginner, to hit the ground running as far as learning to play the drums. Instructor Dann Sherrill is a very patient and kind teacher interested in the student having fun while gaining the skills necessary to make drumming fun, with a solid foundation. In addition to teaching the basics, Mr. Sherrill shows how to use the newly acquired skills to play different genres of music, and what you need to know to play in a band setting.

[andy petko]

Hello drummers!What do you think about dvd and book MUSICAL TIME by Ed Soph.It is interesting how he shows body motions,for playing drums and cymbals.I tried his system on jazz gig last saturday,and results was fantastic.I locked groove with contrabass player,and whole band was very happy.Listeners was happy too.But his system is based on Fred Hinger technique,great tympanist,who teach Ed,Glen Velez,Billy Ward...etc.Cymbal playing is different,because he is waiting with upstroke(he play first note of triplet,rebound one inch on second triplet note and pause and on third triplet note he move stick up,when play quarter note.On the snare too;bass drum is also coordinated with,too).Other drummers,including me was trained in Morello,Riley etc.technique,where stick rebound as fast as posiblle,on first note of triplet,when play quarter note.What is difference for you?

[jamest]

Hello drummers!What do you think about dvd and book MUSICAL TIME by Ed Soph.It is interesting how he shows body motions,for playing drums and cymbals.I tried his system on jazz gig last saturday,and results was fantastic.I locked groove with contrabass player,and whole band was very happy.Listeners was happy too.But his system is based on Fred Hinger technique,great tympanist,who teach Ed,Glen Velez,Billy Ward...etc.Cymbal playing is different,because he is waiting with upstroke(he play first note of triplet,rebound one inch on second triplet note and pause and on third triplet note he move stick up,when play quarter note.On the snare too;bass drum is also coordinated with,too).Other drummers,including me was trained in Morello,Riley etc.technique,where stick rebound as fast as posiblle,on first note of triplet,when play quarter note.What is difference for you?

I have dipped into this book a little, there's some good stuff on time, dynamics, how to position your body as well as your sticks. Haven't worked on it too much though, I might go back and take another look when I get time.
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[andywily889]

This is very good to see about drum instruction. Thanks for link provided by you and also read some of about beginners. But truly speaking I am beginners in this area. this is very much useful for me to teach about drum to become good drummer.

[Jorge89]

Here are some books I've checked out that caught my attention could you guys make any recommendationsof these books:
Pedal control by Dom Famularo
Groove alchemy by Stanton Moore
R&B drumming play-along by Zoro
Rudimental contest solos by Jay Wanamaker
Mastering the tables of time by David Stanoch
On the beaten path - Rich Lackowski ("rated best book by modern drummer")
Buddy Rich rudiments around the kit by Ted Mackenzie

Books I have since I began playing:
Learn how to play the drumset by Peter Magadini
Elementary drum method by Roy Burnes
Intermediate drum method by Roy Burnes
Double bass drumming by Joe Franco
Syncopation for the modern drummer by Ted Reed
Realistic Rock by Carmine Appica
Double bass drum workout by Kerry Collings
Advanced Funk Studies by Rick Latham
Buddy Rich's Snare Drum Rudiments
Stick Control by George Lawrence Stone
Advanced techniques for the modern drummer by Jim Chapin
The art of bop drumming by John Riley
Polyrhythmic potential by Chris Pennie

[DrumsTheWord]

Hello to all my fellow drummers!

Just a quick plug for two of my video drum lesson package deals now available from my website that you might like to check out?

An eight video drum lesson starter set aimed at the beginner drummer teaching 33 individual drum beats and fills in total. Full details available by clicking here (http://www.drumstheword.com/easy-simple-beginner-drum-lessons-video-starter-set-basic-drum-beats-and-fills).

I also have a massive John Bonham video drum lesson package set teaching thirty three of Bonham's best drum and fills from nine classic Led Zeppelin tracks. It contains over five hours of video footage. You can view extra details by clicking here (http://www.drumstheword.com/john-bonham-ultimate-video-drum-lesson-collection).

Hope you find these instructional package useful!

Rob

[The Airside]

NAME:
Great hands for a lifetime
STAR RATING:
Tommy Igoe
WORDED RATING:
Getting great with your stick;this is a warm up exercice that will get your hands used to bounce.using plenty of rudiments at various beat ,this is a must have DVD!!
TARGET AUDIENCE:
Every level
PUBLISHED BY:
Hudson Music
DESCRIPTION:
Tommy Igoe shows here a warm up you should practice everyday.We are not drumming here,we are "bouncing"!!!!

[niacin]

If anyone is thinking about getting Todd Sucherman's new DVD, don't think about it, just do it. Someone on here recommended it, then someone else on another drummer site did also, and I came back here and read even more good stuff about it.

Very entertaining and informative, and I haven't even made it to disc 2 yet :)

Totally agree! What a great sequel to, say, Great Hands for a Lifetime and Secret Weapons. It brings those basics to the next level, when things get exciting - on the drumset! Great, great fills! Watching this will build faith in your own playing, like - "Aaah, I see now, that fill is just this..." And much, much more. Todd's no nonsense philosophy on the music business, the great sound of the kits he's playing, the breathtaking shooting location (his own house?) which looks like the Palace of Drums, the way it is all filmed. It's really an aesthetic treat and everything looks so modern. I don't know much about Todd, but I seem to grow a very deep respect for the man. He is so real and humble and intelligent.

[addisonyesher]

It's very nice to see the drum lessons. Thank you for the link that you also read about some of the beginners. But I mean really a novice in this field. This is very useful for me to learn on the drum to become a good drummer.

[wy yung]

NAME:
Great hands for a lifetime
STAR RATING:
Tommy Igoe
WORDED RATING:
Getting great with your stick;this is a warm up exercice that will get your hands used to bounce.using plenty of rudiments at various beat ,this is a must have DVD!!
TARGET AUDIENCE:
Every level
PUBLISHED BY:
Hudson Music
DESCRIPTION:
Tommy Igoe shows here a warm up you should practice everyday.We are not drumming here,we are "bouncing"!!!!

I cannot get into this. I've been able to stand about 20 minutes of it only. I really kind of hate it.

Sorry to add something negative. But I'd prefer people bought Joe Morello's DVD or Jojo Mayer's and work out their own routine.

I do NOT recommend this DVD. His first book was good. The second very ordinary. This is worse. I point my students away from it. Far away!

[niacin]

I cannot get into this. I've been able to stand about 20 minutes of it only. I really kind of hate it.

Sorry to add something negative. But I'd prefer people bought Joe Morello's DVD or Jojo Mayer's and work out their own routine.

I do NOT recommend this DVD. His first book was good. The second very ordinary. This is worse. I point my students away from it. Far away!

Hi (1st off - Happy New Year to all! Health and inspiration). I appreciate diversity of opinion and thanks for sharing your view. To me Igoe's new DVD has its merit in bringing structure to the hand exercises, unlike JoJo's and Joe's where the focus is on mechanics and they definitely are brilliant DVDs, but Igoe gives you smth that works - it certainly is not the only way to combine rudiments or interpret them - but do we have the time to spend on millions of combination and go through every Stick Control exercise or similar hefty books? A roadmap that gives you not all - but quite a bit of the rudiments - is smth valuable I think. And to play the Lifetime warm-up at 190 is a challenge. Cheers!

[wy yung]

Hi (1st off - Happy New Year to all! Health and inspiration). I appreciate diversity of opinion and thanks for sharing your view. To me Igoe's new DVD has its merit in bringing structure to the hand exercises, unlike JoJo's and Joe's where the focus is on mechanics and they definitely are brilliant DVDs, but Igoe gives you smth that works - it certainly is not the only way to combine rudiments or interpret them - but do we have the time to spend on millions of combination and go through every Stick Control exercise or similar hefty books? A roadmap that gives you not all - but quite a bit of the rudiments - is smth valuable I think. And to play the Lifetime warm-up at 190 is a challenge. Cheers!

We are all different of course and that was simply my interpretation. I do like the poster that came with the DVD. I really regret buying the DVD though. Of course I don't need it after so many years working on technique.

Different people have different needs. I have my own ideas for the practice of rudiments and I pass those onto my students. They can pick others up as they go along as well. Its all one big basket. :-)

[niacin]

We are all different of course and that was simply my interpretation. I do like the poster that came with the DVD. I really regret buying the DVD though. Of course I don't need it after so many years working on technique.

Different people have different needs. I have my own ideas for the practice of rudiments and I pass those onto my students. They can pick others up as they go along as well. Its all one big basket. :-)

I agree with you that for a very experienced player like yourself the DVD may not be of much use. I have 3 beginner students and am I happy to see how Igoe's routine gives some foundation - like the alphabet. You know, these days you see drumming enthusiasts plundge into all sorts of complicated technical stuff, while not having knowledge of the basics, of the alphabet. But as you say - it is all a big basket. It's really great to be able to put in it as much as possible. Regards!

[Matty B Bop]

OK, so a couple of things:

I'm literally just starting out with drums. I have an acoustic set as well as a new e-kit, but have to part with my acoustic set because I never get to play it (too loud, neighbors, etc). Anyway, the e-kit has been great so far and has really allowed me to log more time since I can play whenever I want with headphones.


I've never had an instructor, never had any training, so I'm looking for some really nice beginner books to work with that are easy to understand and follow.


the books I have now are:

Syncopation of the Modern Drummer
Stick Control
Groove Essentials (vol 1)
The Drummer's Bible

What do you recommend as far as metronome speed also? Any tips to a brand new drummer that you can offer would be much appreciated. I'm serious about learning and I look forward to improving my skills. I've been logging 2+ hours of practice/playing nightly!


Sorry, but half this thread is missing (like many of the other threads).


*Edit* actually, it looks like these threads go in reverse. never seen that before . . .

[cherylfoster]

I agree with you that a player of great experience that the actual DVD disc could be of great benefit. I have 3 students have started and I'm glad to see how routine Igoe to give some kind of base - like the alphabet. You know, these days you can see fans of percussion plundge all kinds of technical things complicated, but there is no information on the criteria of the alphabet. But as you say - it's all a big basket. It 'really nice to be able to put as much as possible.

[Xylifrost]

Good job man, good drumming.. I thought you did a great job on "should I stay or go"...

[?uesto]

NAME:
Stanton Moore Groove Alchemy DVD

STAR RATING:
# # #

WORDED RATING:
Very explorative into the world of funk grooves from a limited collection of drummers, but none of them are explained; only played at a medium-fast tempo.

TARGET AUDIENCE:
Intermediate-Advanced drummers looking to largely expand their collection of funk grooves on hi-hat/kick/snare.

PUBLISHED BY:
Hudson Music

DESCRIPTION:
In this video, Stanton demonstrates the grooves of Clyde Stubblefield, Jabo Starks, John Bonham, and Zigaboo Modeliste, as well as a few less known others. All he does is play the grooves at the speed of the original tracks, not breaking anything down or discussing sticking or technique. Maybe I bought it with the expectation of being able to take something from it, but I was not able to. He plays with his trio on some tracks, which is awesome, but it's only fun to watch. Again, not much to gain for most drummers.

[musicgirl9000]

Hi percussionists of the world! I have been a percussionist since the age of 5. I am in my school band as a percussionists and in the drumline. I love playing percussion instruments...especially the drum set. Yet, I am not very good. But if I had to tell you guys one of the best drumming videos ever made, I would say Tommy Igoe's Great hands for a lifetime dvd. Please respond to this once you have checked out the Tommy Igoe dvd. It really helped me with my playing.

[GRUNTERSDAD]

ydna murd...who? Isn't that Andy Drum spelled backward.

[niacin]

ydna murd...who? Isn't that Andy Drum spelled backward.

:) Whatever his real name is - check out his channel. He's a great guy!

[daredrummer]

NAME:
The Drummer's Bible by Mick Berry and Jason Gianni
STAR RATING:
# # # # #
WORDED RATING:
A great idea, to get all these different styles of music in one book. Gives the drummer a taste of each one. Also learned about a lot of styles I'd never heard of.
TARGET AUDIENCE:
Anyone Beginner-Advanced who is interested in learning about the history and roots of the hundreds (165+ in this book) of different musical styles, and also the basic beats and applications of these styles.
DESCRIPTION:
A fantastic book. Goes into 165+ different musical styles. They way the book is written is there are about 20 or sub categories (latin, funk, rock, etc.) and several categories within these. Some are very short, with a brief description of origination and just 2 beats, and some are much longer, with a lot of info about origination and developing artists, and 10 beats. It doesn't go into any advanced concepts, just gives a basic sample of many different styles, however it's still great for advanced drummers. There will be some styles you've never heard of, and you'll also get a lot of valuable info. It's not necessarily best for learning technique or teaching students or whatever, but it's a great kind of laid back book that's a blast to play. I mean, who here knows how to play an Abakwa, Boogaloo, or Mozambique drum beat?

[Muckster]

NAME:
The Drummer's Bible by Mick Berry and Jason Gianni
STAR RATING:
# # # # #
WORDED RATING:
A great idea, to get all these different styles of music in one book. Gives the drummer a taste of each one. Also learned about a lot of styles I'd never heard of.
TARGET AUDIENCE:
Anyone Beginner-Advanced who is interested in learning about the history and roots of the hundreds (165+ in this book) of different musical styles, and also the basic beats and applications of these styles.
DESCRIPTION:
A fantastic book. Goes into 165+ different musical styles. They way the book is written is there are about 20 or sub categories (latin, funk, rock, etc.) and several categories within these. Some are very short, with a brief description of origination and just 2 beats, and some are much longer, with a lot of info about origination and developing artists, and 10 beats. It doesn't go into any advanced concepts, just gives a basic sample of many different styles, however it's still great for advanced drummers. There will be some styles you've never heard of, and you'll also get a lot of valuable info. It's not necessarily best for learning technique or teaching students or whatever, but it's a great kind of laid back book that's a blast to play. I mean, who here knows how to play an Abakwa, Boogaloo, or Mozambique drum beat?


I use this book as a reference all the time. Great book. Nice to hear the samples on the CD as well.

[Odd-Arne Oseberg]

A book many seem to overlook is Ed Soph's "Musical Time, A Source Book for Jazz Drumming." It's the only book I've seen that addresses playing jazz ride rhythms as they are played by jazz drummers like Tony Williams, Louis Hayes, Jimmy Cobb, etc.

I read one review of Soph's book that dismissed it as "too basic." Wrong! The exercises start with simple rhythms, but soon progress. Sure, you'll not find the complicated independence gyrations you'll find in "Coordinated Independence For the Jazz Drummer," but you'll perhaps find something even more valuable--the ability to play swinging, breathing jazz time that your fellow musicians will prefer to the locked-in limitations imposed by the standard ride pattern found in most drumming tutorials. And when the later chapters of the book are played at faster tempos, you'll unlock the secret of the Cobb/Williams/Klook type ride rhythms that made the sound of those drummers sound so expansive and open-ended.

I sent a letter to Soph, complimenting him on his book, and encouraged him to write a second book that expands on the knowledge found in the first. He said he's working on a second book that will deal with broken cymbal rhythms and various time signatures.

I have worked as a professional jazz drummer for over 30 years. And I have purchased, and studied from, many drum books. For an introduction to playing swinging jazz time, I find "Musical Time" to be among the best introductory methods of playing jazz time on a drum set.

Completely agree. I have a lot books that may look more advanced to some, but this book goes right to the core. One of the best drum books ever.

[Enzo Liberto]

www.drumsystem.altervista.org

[DrumsTheWord]

Hello drummers,

I've just recently released a new Drum Instruction eBook with accompanying DVD's entitled, "The Greatest Drum Beats & Grooves Of All Time".

This massive eBook lists the greatest drum grooves from Over 130 Songs, 240 individual drum beats taught in total! The double DVD accompaniment demonstrates 120 of the best drum beats from the book, both slowly and up to speed.

I'm very proud of it and it's receiving great reviews so far. You can check it out on my website here Learn 100's Of Drum Beats & Grooves (http://www.drumstheword.com/blog/240-greatest-drum-beats-book-dvds).

Or you can purchase a copy for your Amazon Kindle (does not include double DVD's though) here if you live in the UK Learn To Play Drum Beats & Grooves On Your Kindle (UK) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004RCLW9K). Or HERE (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004RCLW9K) if you live in the States.

[Muckster]

That's not exactly a review is it?


Hello drummers,

I've just recently released a new Drum Instruction eBook with accompanying DVD's entitled, "The Greatest Drum Beats & Grooves Of All Time".

This massive eBook lists the greatest drum grooves from Over 130 Songs, 240 individual drum beats taught in total! The double DVD accompaniment demonstrates 120 of the best drum beats from the book, both slowly and up to speed.

I'm very proud of it and it's receiving great reviews so far. You can check it out on my website here Learn 100's Of Drum Beats & Grooves (http://www.drumstheword.com/blog/240-greatest-drum-beats-book-dvds).

Or you can purchase a copy for your Amazon Kindle (does not include double DVD's though) here if you live in the UK Learn To Play Drum Beats & Grooves On Your Kindle (UK) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004RCLW9K). Or HERE (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004RCLW9K) if you live in the States.

[Be26]

A quick note of thanks to this thread for pointing me in the right direction. I was about to post asking for suggestions on 'essential' books before I saw this, and...well, my copy of Stick Control arrived today and I can see a lot of my free time disappearing in the near future.

Somebody asked about Drums for Dummies earlier in the thread, and my two cents - I like it, it is a good book for beginners and it's what I used for the first year, year and a half, but it is very much a book interested in covering the basics. I'm in the process of trying to learn to play double strokes properly because DfD wasn't helpful there.

[leelika08]

ydna murd...who? Isn't that Andy Drum spelled backward.

Hi percussionists of the world! I have been a percussionist since the age of 5. I am in my school band as a percussionists and in the drumline. I love playing percussion instruments...especially the drum set. Yet, I am not very good. But if I had to tell you guys one of the best drumming videos ever made, I would say Tommy Igoe's Great hands for a lifetime dvd. Please respond to this once you have checked out the Tommy Igoe dvd. It really helped me with my playing.

[haredrums]

Name
Modern Rudimental Swing Solos for the Advanced Drummer
Author
Charley Wilcoxon
Rating
####
Target Audience
This book can work for just about everybody

Description
I didn't see anyone mention this one yet, so I thought I would share it. This book is a classic, although not without it its faults. It is a collection of snare solos, some really great and some less than stellar. Philly Joe was said to have practiced from it religiously, and in my experience it is a great way to start building up both rudimental vocabulary, as well as ideas for phrasing solos. It is also a real challenge to practice with brushes (Kenny Washington apparently has spent a lot of time on this). I do have some small issues with the way it is organized, and as I mentioned some of the solos leave something to be desired. But overall, if you haven't checked it out it is definitely worth your time as it is one of the better snare solo books.

[NeuralizerTY]

Todd Sucherman's Methods and Mechanics II is a great accompanying dvd to M&M I. It is all about tips and tricks on the road as well as going other particular grooves, odd times, and sticking. I strongly suggest if you enjoyed the first DVD. Though if you have not seen the first DVD then I would watch it before M&M II because it constantly is referencing techniques from the first DVD.

Benny Greb's Language of Drumming is excellent as well. Lots of different things in this DVD from playing on a breakfast nook table to a log in the woods. Very fun to watch and incredibly informative.

Lastly, Neil Peart's Taking Center Stage is one of the coolest DVDs I've ever seen. It has everything a Neil Peart and a Rush fan could ask for. Track by track break downs from the Time Machine tour, Drum cam footage from the Time Machine tour, rehearsal and sound check footage before shows, Neil's drum tech breaking down the nuts and bolts of touring. Interviews from the DW worker who created Neil's Time Machine and Hockey kits. And much much more. HIGHLY RECOMMEND!

[kettles]

Hello drummers,

I've just recently released a new Drum Instruction eBook with accompanying DVD's entitled, "The Greatest Drum Beats & Grooves Of All Time".

This massive eBook lists the greatest drum grooves from Over 130 Songs, 240 individual drum beats taught in total! The double DVD accompaniment demonstrates 120 of the best drum beats from the book, both slowly and up to speed.

I'm very proud of it and it's receiving great reviews so far. You can check it out on my website here Learn 100's Of Drum Beats & Grooves (http://www.drumstheword.com/blog/240-greatest-drum-beats-book-dvds).

Or you can purchase a copy for your Amazon Kindle (does not include double DVD's though) here if you live in the UK Learn To Play Drum Beats & Grooves On Your Kindle (UK) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004RCLW9K). Or HERE (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004RCLW9K) if you live in the States.

Looks kinda cool, it's great to have a big bunch of classic drumming in one book and a good resource for beginners to get up to speed. Is the Kindle version just a PDF file?

How accurate are your transcriptions, and to what extent have you tested them out? I mean, did you get other players to go through the book and look for mistakes?

[kettles]

Has anybody got opinions on these two books?

66 Drum Solos for the Modern Drummer - Tom Hapke
http://www.fishpond.co.nz/Books/66-Drum-Solos-for-Modern-Drummer-Tom-Hapke-Composer/9781603783194?cf=3&rid=958753472&i=3&keywords=rock+drumming

Mind Matters - Overcoming Common Mental Barriers in Drumming - Bernie Schallehn
www.fishpond.co.nz/Books/Mind-Matters-Bernie-Schallehn/9781458406996?cf=3&rid=958753472&i=17&keywords=rock+drumming

[Muckster]

Todd Sucherman's Methods and Mechanics II is a great accompanying dvd to M&M I. It is all about tips and tricks on the road as well as going other particular grooves, odd times, and sticking. I strongly suggest if you enjoyed the first DVD. Though if you have not seen the first DVD then I would watch it before M&M II because it constantly is referencing techniques from the first DVD.

Yeah, i really like Methods and Mechanics II. My only complaint is i wish the exercises Todd goes over were available in PDF format on the disk. I had to stop the DVD to jot down the stuff i wanted to work on. Reminds me of the old "Hot Licks" videos. Todd even makes a comment about not spoon feeding the viewer and making them do the work themselves, which i thought was right on!

I see that Todd will have a companion book and CD soon to MMI so i guess he'll make everyone "work for it" only on MMII. LOL!

You definitely want to have MMI first.

[rdb]

NAME: "A Fresh Approach to the Snare Drum" by Mark Wessels

STAR RATING: #####

WORDED RATING: A unique, well thought out, well executed, and comprehensive course on snare drum playing. Highly recommended for any beginner looking to learn snare drum playing. Also perfect for an instructor who needs a syllabus.

TARGET AUDIENCE: Beginners, Teachers.

PUBLISHED BY: Mark Wessels Publications. Available only from the publisher's website (http://www.mwpublications.com).

DESCRIPTION: This book is unique in that it is a complete course, organized as 20 lessons, covering all aspects of snare drum playing. It covers, technique, rhythms, rudiments, and reading all in a natural progression. For example, on the topic of reading, it starts by introducing the staff, measures, and quarter notes in lesson 1. By lesson 6, it's up to odd time signatures and 16th notes. By lesson 13, it's up to dynamic markings, and by the end (lesson 20), it's covered alternate endings and Dal Segno. New rhythms and rudiments are likewise introduced in a logical sequence through the lessons. There's also a nice sequence of exercises that isolate specific movements and help develop, for example, accents and flams. Each lesson concludes with an Etude that incorporates elements from previous lessons. There's even a guide with recommended speeds progressing through the lessons. For example, the single paradiddle is introduced in lesson 5, at which point it recommends that it be played as quarter notes, starting at 90 bpm. By lesson 10, it recommends 8th notes at 140 bpm (quarter-note beat). By the end, it recommends getting to 16th notes at 100 bpm (quarter-note beat). Finally, on the Vic Firth web site and on iTunes, there are videos by Mark that accompany lessons 1-13.

Personally, I think that this is a great book, and Mark has done a great job being comprehensive and organizing the topics into lessons with a natural progression. I've been using this book to self-teach, and I expect that that would make Mark cringe, since I'm pretty sure that he intended this book to be used with an instructor, not to replace an instructor. (I don't disagree, and I do plan to get an instructor.) With an instructor, this book is a great way to learn. Moreover, as a framework, it can be nicely supplemented with technique DVDs and additional exercises from other great books such as Stick Control and Syncopation.

[moisturize]

here is a very cool DVD for beginner drummers. Check it out.

http://2885fd37ylyiruq6ucnf16cxfg.hop.clickbank.net/

[travisbark3r]

I guess I need to watch drum tutorials because I am willing to learn drumming. One of my idol is travis barker. i wanna be like him very fast drummer. One thing also, I want to learn double pedal coz its to cool to hear bangin' something like with metal music. Hope you guys out here wants to teach beginner like me. keep rockin!


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[thedrummersworkoutcamp]

NAME:
The Groove Is Here, Steve Jordan
STAR RATING:
#####
WORDED RATING:
A great video for drummers interested in having an amazing, grooving sound.
TARGET AUDIENCE:
beginning through advanced
PUBLISHED BY:
Rittor Music
DESCRIPTION:
This is geared towards drummers who play or want to play multiple instruments and who may be interested in songwriting/production work. There aren't a ton of "contemporary" licks in it, but it's filled with classic licks that make for an epic drummer.

Here's an example of what you can do as a result -- http://youtu.be/tyzly-yM7Oc

[edisontsai]

Does anyone have any opinions on the instructional "Hands, grooves & fills" ? No thinks

[drummindan8484]

NAME:
Todd Sucherman- Methods and Mechanics II
STAR RATING:
#####
WORDED RATING:
A great follow up to M & M 1 with a lot of great solos, ideas and song analyses.
TARGET AUDIENCE:
Intermediate to Advanced
PUBLISHED BY:
Hudson Music
DESCRIPTION:
Great lessons on ghost notes, beat displacements and odd phrasing, challenging hand exercises and breakdowns of songs that Todd has played on with Styx and Taylor Mills to put it all in a musical context. Some examples are notated on screen, others you'll have to write out yourself . Also features some great clips of Todd on the road with Styx, lessons about life on the road, and some more of the infamous "Quick Tips".

NAME:
Antonio Sanchez- Master Series
STAR RATING:
#####
WORDED RATING:
A great insight into the playing of one of the premier jazz drummers of our time.
TARGET AUDIENCE:
Intermediate to Advanced
PUBLISHED BY:
Hudson Music
DESCRIPTION:
Unlike most drum instructional DVD's, this one is in a clinic format with a live audience on screen asking questions. Antonio plays several songs from both his solo album "Migration" and the Pat Metheny Group, and breaks down concepts covered in each. Antonio gives a lot of great advice about practice routines, technique, developing independence and other ideas for all around musical drumming. Great for anyone interested in advancing their jazz playing, or interested in left foot clave. Only gripe would be that the PDF ebook could have been much thicker.

[dmacc]

Here's a fabulous book that I don't see mentioned yet, so I will.

NAME:
Keith Copeland's Creative Coordination for the Performing Drummer

STAR RATING:
#####

WORDED RATING:
Fabulous for learning Jazz, Latin (Brazilian and Cuban), and Rock/Funk. Many of these ideas can be applied to books such as Syncopation.

TARGET AUDIENCE:
For the advanced beginner drum set player and beyond.

PUBLISHED BY:
Carl Fischer Music

DESCRIPTION:
Table of Contents:
1. Slow To Medium Tempo Swing
2. Bossa Nova Clave
3. Funk And Fusion
4. Samba Rhythms
5. Up Tempo Swing
6. Cuban Rhythms
7. Half-time Swing

[jasonrhcp]

"Hands, Grooves, & Fills" for me, has been a Godsend. It covers Hand Technique exercises...and REALLY good exercises, short and sweet, that have helped my chops. The "Rudiment TAB System" has helped me to quickly put rudiments together in combinations..lots of fun

The Grooves section? 50 play along beats..ranging from Pop/rock style, to Funk/Fusion, to Brazilian Funk..Real beats that work, cool phrasing and accent variations...I also use the tracks to make up my own grooves and variations

Fills....THIS is where it does it for me...He breaks down various split 16th movements in the book, then shows the orchestrations and phrasing on the DVD..as well as sextuplet and ratamacue style fills I've heard Gadd or Weckl do..now I can do some of these and add my own..

He also does a pretty amazing solo..which is hear on DW, I think, and he plays all the tracks on the DVD

WELL worth it...5 stars, a great educational package!

[paradiddleninja]

Name
Modern Rudimental Swing Solos for the Advanced Drummer
Author
Charley Wilcoxon
Rating
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Target Audience
This book can work for just about everybody

Description
I didn't see anyone mention this one yet, so I thought I would share it. This book is a classic, although not without it its faults. It is a collection of snare solos, some really great and some less than stellar. Philly Joe was said to have practiced from it religiously, and in my experience it is a great way to start building up both rudimental vocabulary, as well as ideas for phrasing solos. It is also a real challenge to practice with brushes (Kenny Washington apparently has spent a lot of time on this). I do have some small issues with the way it is organized, and as I mentioned some of the solos leave something to be desired. But overall, if you haven't checked it out it is definitely worth your time as it is one of the better snare solo books.

This is a great book to have around, open, set a metronome and READ! Even the weirder ones help because they are weird - or as that last person said "less than stellar." You find that everywhere in the real world.

[paradiddleninja]

Name
Modern Rudimental Swing Solos for the Advanced Drummer
Author
Charley Wilcoxon
Rating
####
Target Audience
This book can work for just about everybody

Description
I didn't see anyone mention this one yet, so I thought I would share it. This book is a classic, although not without it its faults. It is a collection of snare solos, some really great and some less than stellar. Philly Joe was said to have practiced from it religiously, and in my experience it is a great way to start building up both rudimental vocabulary, as well as ideas for phrasing solos. It is also a real challenge to practice with brushes (Kenny Washington apparently has spent a lot of time on this). I do have some small issues with the way it is organized, and as I mentioned some of the solos leave something to be desired. But overall, if you haven't checked it out it is definitely worth your time as it is one of the better snare solo books.

OK, so a couple of things:

I'm literally just starting out with drums. I have an acoustic set as well as a new e-kit, but have to part with my acoustic set because I never get to play it (too loud, neighbors, etc). Anyway, the e-kit has been great so far and has really allowed me to log more time since I can play whenever I want with headphones.


I've never had an instructor, never had any training, so I'm looking for some really nice beginner books to work with that are easy to understand and follow.


the books I have now are:

Syncopation of the Modern Drummer
Stick Control
Groove Essentials (vol 1)
The Drummer's Bible

What do you recommend as far as metronome speed also? Any tips to a brand new drummer that you can offer would be much appreciated. I'm serious about learning and I look forward to improving my skills. I've been logging 2+ hours of practice/playing nightly!


Sorry, but half this thread is missing (like many of the other threads).


*Edit* actually, it looks like these threads go in reverse. never seen that before . . .
Metronome speed should only be fast enough that you are still playing an exercise correctly then pushing it up a couple clicks at a time until it's clean again. It can take time - but that's the fastest way to move ahead. Anybody else agree or can add to that? Also, taking any exercise and playing at a REALLY slow tempo will teach your brain about timing better than anything. It may sound easier, but some things are more difficult at a really slow groove. This excersize has helped with my studio recording sessions a lot!

Started with Haskell Harr;
Gary Chaffee's sticking patterns;
Stick Control - the best for hand and working into drumset!;
The Paradiddle Workbook - great for measuring and gaining speed and improving hand and foot coordination. I had the hard copy and I downloaded it for my Ipad for traveling; Gary Chester's New Breed - same importance as Stick Control! This one is a must for independence!