View Full Version : Trad. grip players check in ....
Anthony Amodeo
06-09-2012, 01:16 AM
....even if you are part time trad grip....
Gvdadrummasum checks in
8Mile
06-09-2012, 01:18 AM
I'm a full-timer. Checking in!
plangentmusic
06-09-2012, 01:23 AM
I'm a believer of using what works. On bass, I play mostly with fingers, but will use a pick when appropriate. On drums, some thing feels better trad, others matched. I don't even think about it -- I automatically turn the stick around in anticipation of what to play.
Toolate
06-09-2012, 01:26 AM
We talking drumsticks here?
Anthony Amodeo
06-09-2012, 01:26 AM
I'm a believer of using what works. On bass, I play mostly with fingers, but will use a pick when appropriate. On drums, some thing feels better trad, others matched. I don't even think about it -- I automatically turn the stick around in anticipation of what to play.
in other words......
plangentmusic part time trad player checking in
:)
Anthony Amodeo
06-09-2012, 01:27 AM
We talking drumsticks here?
absolutely not
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Anthony Amodeo
06-09-2012, 01:32 AM
I'm a full-timer. Checking in!
are you a tilt the snare forward guy 8?
it feels worlds more comfortable for me
Toolate
06-09-2012, 01:32 AM
Count me in although I like to change it up depending on the tempo and who I am playing with/what style....
pieplaysdrums
06-09-2012, 01:34 AM
80/20 matched to trad. I agree that some things just feel right traditional. I practice both. ALWAYS with brushes as well.
Pocket-full-of-gold
06-09-2012, 01:44 AM
Part-timer checking in. (fwiw, snare flat)
Anthony Amodeo
06-09-2012, 01:48 AM
80/20 matched to trad. I agree that some things just feel right traditional. I practice both. ALWAYS with brushes as well.
absolutely
each grip has it benefits and each offer something the other does not
in my opinion every drummer should learn both even if they eventually choose to just use one most of the time
dmacc
06-09-2012, 01:53 AM
Checking in.... I play both however. Trad feels better with the grooves - can execute more fills with much greater ease with matched.
Snare is on a 1 or 2 degree angle towards me.
KarlCrafton
06-09-2012, 02:43 AM
Checking in.
I practice with Traditional grip 60/40 to matched, but play live mainly with matched.
With my new trio, I use some traditional grip, & brushes are always played with matched grip.
My snare is tilted away from me.
It just feels natural, and it's easier to play rim shots (or no rim shots) tilted down a little. With the snare flat, then it's 99% rim shots, which is fine for the heavy rock stuff.
Big Foot
06-09-2012, 03:15 AM
Always trad grip when playing w/brushes. And I'd say...50/50 w/sticks - music and/or rudiment practice.
P33v3
06-09-2012, 03:30 AM
I play mostly traditional.
SticksEasy
06-09-2012, 04:22 AM
I play with traditional when I'm playing with the right kind of music. About 75% of my drumming gigs call for matched grip, but when I'm practicing rudiments I'll practice both grips extensively. I'm addicted to playing traditional, so I could never stop completely!
8Mile
06-09-2012, 04:27 AM
are you a tilt the snare forward guy 8?
it feels worlds more comfortable for me
Gvd,
Yeah, but I didn't start that until fairly recently. I used to play it perfectly flat, but I find that forward and slightly to the right works best. Especially if I'm playing backbeats and want to hit consistent rimshots.
Numberless
06-09-2012, 04:44 AM
Part time checking in. I use whatever feels comfortable at the moment, with sticks and brushes.
major_panic
06-09-2012, 05:36 AM
I play both, snare is always dead flat... as has been mentioned, I find grooving more fun with trad, and fills easier with matched.
dwsabianguy
06-09-2012, 05:50 AM
Probably 80/20 matched/trad for me. Padwork usually ends up being traditional; I guess it reminds me of high school marching snare. And yes, I always play traditional with brushes.
audiotech
06-09-2012, 05:50 AM
90% traditional, 10% matched grip, but it varies. I was taught more than fifty years ago to set my kits up with the snare drum tilting away from me and to this day that's the most comfortable and playable condition for me personally. I was also taught that the traditional grip was the only way to grip a stick, but there are exceptions to the rules.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n44/F-64/DSC_0083-3.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n44/F-64/DSC_0267-1.jpg
Dennis
Dirtcity
06-09-2012, 05:52 AM
Part time traditional gripper here.
When I was in high school I was asked to join the jazz band so I thought I'd start messing around with traditional for fun. Now I'was never that good at all the nuances of jazz, but I at least looked the part.
I play for two churches, and I play traditional grip exclusively for Sunday mornings. However, my loud rock band is 95% matched with a couple traditional passages mixed in for feel.
Practice is probably 60/40 traditional, and sometimes I tilt my snare with the right side lower than the left for rimshots.
70% trad player checking in...
As I don't have a band and have less than 2 years of drumming the reason why I'm practicing more trad than matched is... to learn it ;-) But learning/spending time with trad, I fell in love with this grip (after some initial time of trad just feeling weird). With matched, both hands feel the same (kinda boring) - with trad they don't, haha. When practicing I would switch between both grips every few minutes, just for the hell of it.
That trad-matched ratio might shift in the future (if I were in an extreme band I'm not sure I'd use trad), but 70% - that's the situation for now.
Snare is flat, and relatively high. Not exactly the optimum position for any of those grips (if playing one of them exclusively) but one which works for both in an acceptable way.
drumdevil9
06-09-2012, 07:10 AM
Part timer checking in. Mostly for low volume stuff.
Chunky - Hellraizer
06-09-2012, 09:12 AM
I don't feel like I can say I'm checking in as I use trad grip so little.
When I saw Thomas Lang playing as loud as he does and Virgil Donati with trad I seriously considered making the switch to trad being my main grip but, it just does not feel as comfortable as it should for me and to he honest I just don't think I have it up to scratch.
I feel I can play everything better matched but I think differently in trad. I just need more practise but, with me being in so few situations to use and benefit from it it comes pretty low on my long list of practise priorities.
It's annoying as I love the grip, lets face it, it's the coolest looking grip! even if at times I question the point these days in playing an instrument as consistently as possible with a grip that instantly put you at odds.
Maybe I can steal some inspiration and ideas feom you guys. My left hand feels weak in trad. any tips?
larryace
06-09-2012, 09:33 AM
:(
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Mad About Drums
06-09-2012, 10:33 AM
99.9% matched grip for me :)
BacteriumFendYoke
06-09-2012, 11:05 AM
70/30 with traditional as the main constituent. I'm happy to change mid-song and it just depends how I'm feeling. Some things I can do better in traditional, some better in matched.
I usually have my snare tilted away. I can play it quite happily this way in either grip.
I've been playing ten years and I've been playing traditional for eight and a half of those. It was certainly a novelty to all the people I knew at the time (I was at school) who had never seen it used and all used matched. They knew it was me playing before they could even see my face!
brittc89
06-09-2012, 11:58 AM
Im occasional. It just seems so right sometimes. Then I try a paraddiddle and Im flippin that stuff around.
major_panic
06-09-2012, 01:13 PM
"Whenever I see you playing, you just look like you know what you're doing / look like a pro cause of how you hold the sticks!"
Anyone else get this? I seem to all the time... if only my skills matched up.
Odd-Arne Oseberg
06-09-2012, 02:01 PM
I play trad because that's what I like. It just feels natural. I practice a bit matched every day because you never know and it's probably good for my hands' health to switch things around now and then.
Mighty_Joker
06-09-2012, 02:37 PM
Full-timer here. The only time I used matched is for demonstrations when teaching.
rockinrider
06-09-2012, 04:14 PM
Trad grip only from 1967 until 1997 - 50/50 since then.
gf2564
06-09-2012, 09:27 PM
I played matched for years (probably close to 40!) without even considering traditional. Over the last 8-10 years I have started playing a lot of traditional grip. When just groving, I play tradtional probably 75% now. If I want to do a lot of shuffles or quick/fast rolls around the kit, I go back to matched.
I have never really taken the time to develop my finger technique like I should so I am still not as confident with tight fast rolls. I have really come to enjoy playing traditional and wished I would have started much earlier and spent time working on it!
gregcon
06-10-2012, 01:11 AM
Read grip almost all the time. Snare slanted down to the right.
groove1
06-10-2012, 01:52 AM
Trad grip 95% of the time (only playing small group jazz these days and I can do things
like one handed bounce rolls (left hand only) easier with trad grip.) Tilt snare always so I can
still get left and right hand rim shots
MikeM
06-10-2012, 03:03 AM
I play matched 98% of the time, but switch over to trad (or open handed playing) whenever I feel like my groove needs to check in. Something about trad grip forces my feel into a comfy place and it isn't just because I've handicapped myself.
Anon La Ply
06-10-2012, 03:42 AM
Trad with brushes for sweeping. Otherwise matched.
Apologies to the regulars but you know it's "traditional" for me to post this whenever the topic comes up:
http://www.sangrea.net/free-cartoons/yarts_traditional-grip.jpg
Anthony Amodeo
06-10-2012, 03:50 AM
Trad with brushes for sweeping. Otherwise matched.
Apologies to the regulars but you know it's "traditional" for me to post this whenever the topic comes up:
http://www.sangrea.net/free-cartoons/yarts_traditional-grip.jpg
love it Grea
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Anon La Ply
06-10-2012, 05:38 AM
love it Grea
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Cheers Anthony. You'll probably tire of it after the next couple of trad/matched threads :)
One day I wondered about trad grip and thought about "who's tradition?" and "how far do we go back?". So I maintain that matched grip IS traditional ... or at least it was at some time and place ... so don't frown, Larry!
(for the pedants: comment discounts orchestral / tuned percussion)
rogue_drummer
06-10-2012, 06:06 AM
Traditional gripper checking in. Mostly trad grip 95% of the time. That's the way I was taught way back in the mid-1970's and what feels comfortable for me. I have my snare tilted forward about 1 or 2 degrees. I can get better rim shots that way. :)
Skulmoski
06-10-2012, 06:18 AM
I use Traditional Grip 99% of the time. It's good enough for Charlie and Buddy, and a few others I dare venture to guess.
GJS
toddbishop
06-10-2012, 06:20 AM
I can play it, but usually don't-- I don't know why not.
8Mile
06-10-2012, 06:57 AM
Cheers Anthony. You'll probably tire of it after the next couple of trad/matched threads :)
I can vouch for this!
:)
Anon La Ply
06-10-2012, 07:33 AM
I can vouch for this!
:)
Did I hear another request for Stairway to Heaven?
Messerschmitt
06-10-2012, 07:44 AM
I`m checking in, too.
the ratio would be 85/15 for me, i only use trad grip for grooving stuff or marching and i love changing mid-song from matched to trad. I tried to see if i can play anything with trad and it is really awkward playing the hi-hat with my left hand or doing long fills on the toms.
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