Super Fast Drumming

[lordmarco]

Please check out my band VORNAGAR. i posted a video of me recording the drums to the SONG HYPERION. now check out the rest of the songs! http://www.myspace.com/vornagar (fast melodic death metal)

[Barry]

I've been wanting to hear some death metal drumming, but I can't find yours on that page.

[Elemental Nausea]

omg i can`t tell it too often...you are such a damn awesome drummer, probably the best extreme metal drummer I have ever heard. I dont know but without the video it seems to be even faster(hyperion), hehe no insult man, probably it`s because you look so relaxed on the video

[DrUmStIcKmUrDeReR]

hey i got a question: is there a site i can download the songs from? because it wont let me download on myspace...

[hotsauce3n]

fast, but horrible music, i dont know how anyone can enjoy it... i bet i could play faster

[Drummer_Dude9164]

death metal needs to die. theres no articulation involved, just pure speed. hell gimme a double pedal, a guy who can scream, and ive got a death metal band.

[Tyrnox]

Drummer dude, i'll personally come over to your house and hand you my drumset if you can play what Marco's playing after "getting a double pedal".

It might not be "subtle" music, but its filled with complicated riffs, odd timings and blazing speed, it takes years of training to be able to play anything close to death metal.

[Johnny_Stacks]

not my kind of music at all... and the drumming sounds like the song is skipping on a skratched CD... no offence man.. but you are a fast drummer and very creative with some of your fills ill give you that

[DogBreath]

I agree with Drummer Dude, death metal needs to die! Also country-western music, disco, polka, new age, easy listening, electronica, and anything else that I don't like.



Or . . .



I can accept the fact that other things exist in the world that people besides myself enjoy, and maybe those things shouldn't "die" because then everyone would have to listen to only what I like. Hmm. I guess I'll have to think about this one.



=-)

[K!lly]

Dog breath.....
that's the best arguement to explain people about tates and all that stuff I'v ever seen (or almost).....

your post totally blow me away.....


and if I don't allready tell it to lord marco.. your tracks blow me away too...

(yes now, I felt from my chair ;P )

[Brent W]

I imagine lordmarco's playing goes a lot further than death metal. To be honest I have never heard drumming that fast and consistent (mind you I have never really listened to much death metal or any metal for that matter). I mean just playing that fast is impressive, but he is playing that fast consistently for what I would imagine to be very physically demanding 5 minute songs! Perhaps this kind of drumming does not portray much articulation, dynamic, feel (not meant to be an insult, but its so fast it sounds robotic...but in a good way, as that kind of drumming really fits the music), and it probably is not all that musical to people (I for one). But as it has been stated, different people have different tastes. I think all types of music have a purpose and I think it is ignorant say otherwise. Also, just because he plays in a death metal band, does not mean he is incapable of drumming any other style. I imagine if he has chops like that he is well practiced and I imagine somewhere over the course of his drumming career, he has experimented with different types of drumming.

I don't get this big rivalry all the time! Why do drummers always want to show each other up?! I sense an iota of jealousy from a few. To be honest I imagine a lot of you guys can play fast, but I think it is VERY unlikely that you can play THAT fast (mind you I could be wrong). But marco's speed is insane! Awesome drumming! I'd really like to hear a drum solo showing your other drumming abilities because I really think that your playing runs deeper than JUST death metal.

Jeez we are all supposed to be drummers!!! Brothers and sisters of a great art! Where is the kinship and camaraderie?

In the end, everyone is different and everyone plays differently. So there really is no need to start these grudges. When it comes down to it there are things that you can do that the next drummer can't do, but there are things he can do that you can't. When you get to a certain level of playing and you fall into your style, it is always going to be like that. Get used to it! And embrace this by learning the things that you don't know from other drummers and teaching them the things they don't, but you do. We need to find some peace!

-Brent W

[Smoky_McPot]

Hey guys, 1st of all lordmarco wikkid tracks man. Awesome drumming. Now about all this genre bashing. 1st of all let me say i enjoy metal and "rock" alternative music most. But that doesnt mean that a 1/2 time shuffle on Fool in the Rain isnt kickarse. Drums are what we play, and our job is to compliment the music! So whether or not you like metal or country, drumming is still drumming and i think good drumming transcends genre. My point is that this is outstanding drumming, and im sure that he could nail any genre with relative ease.

[Elemental Nausea]

come on guys, some say death metal has no articulation , just speed?
I like a lot of different music, and I enjoy many different kinds of feeling conveyed through the music, and melodic death metal is like a sometimes melancholic sometimes very aggressive adrenaline rush through your brain, it has a lot of articulation, of course, not everybody can feel this , but there are so many people who do not only listen to this kind of extreme music, just because of the speed and impressive technique

[Milo]

I agree with Drummer Dude, death metal needs to die! Also country-western music, disco, polka, new age, easy listening, electronica, and anything else that I don't like.

What about emo? Can emo die? Please!?

I also don't get the "i can play better or faster", "it doesn't take talent to play metal" attitude you sometimes see. I don't listen to much death metal and it doesn't do much for me personally but I know a damn good drummer when I see and hear one. His chops are insanely fast and I'm sure that came with practice. The only way I could drum that fast is through a rapid series of electrical shocks. Marco and anyone else who can play with that kind of intensity gets my respect.

[BroKenSticKs]

death metal needs to die. theres no articulation involved, just pure speed. hell gimme a double pedal, a guy who can scream, and ive got a death metal band.HAHA!........you need to take a look at this guys snare work if you think that its just all fast double bass. I don't ike this type of music at all but have some respect....This guy has amazing chops.

[DogBreath]

What about emo? Can emo die? Please!?
Yes, of course! Emo must die! Also asparagus, the new Volkswagons, movies starring J-Lo, and web pages where people post pictures of their cats.

[hotsauce3n]

death metal needs to die. theres no articulation involved, just pure speed. hell gimme a double pedal, a guy who can scream, and ive got a death metal band.


I couldnt agree with this guy more, this music is all physical how much you work to build up your speed no articulation or dynamics..

[larkin42]

I agree totally, This guy is fast, you do have to give him some credit for that, but no skill or real true music sound behind it. Plus, i bet he uses a triple bass pedal, cause if you watch the way he moves his legs, and listen to the bass drum, it just dont add up, but he is pretty fast with his arms, that is good.

[K!lly]

triple bass pedal?.... what taht..
the movement of the legs doesnt mean anything

[Edward]

cool to watch and learn to go fast but.pointless...sounds like noise but DAM your fast!

[G-MaN91]

alright, people saying this takes no skill or its not really music have to, 1. learn to respect people and what they do and 2. learn that different types of music, taht other people like even though you dont, call for a different style of playing the drums. the kind of stuff that lordmarco is doing, i could never do. and its not just speed. he has complete control, accuracy, and hes totally relaxed when hes playing.

[Edward]

alright, people saying this takes no skill or its not really music have to, 1. learn to respect people and what they do and 2. learn that different types of music, taht other people like even though you dont, call for a different style of playing the drums. the kind of stuff that lordmarco is doing, i could never do. and its not just speed. he has complete control, accuracy, and hes totally relaxed when hes playing.
You can do it...but just practice!

[LiquidSoul546]

When doesn't he put a blast beat in any song? sorry, but all these songs kind of sound the same.
peace
ps. doesn't mean your not a damn good drummer outside of this band

[Milo]

Yes, of course! Emo must die! Also ...... and web pages where people post pictures of their cats.


Was that a direct shot at me? LOL

[drumbastard]

i'm not sure but i think this narrow minded thinking considering who's fastest and gimme a double pedal...and so on...could it be a question of age??
i remember me some years ago, every other drummer was a kind of "enemy" (i know sounds kinda stupid) but i always tried to be "better" (whatever that means) than the other drummers..till i found out that you can learn from almost every drummer...either his technique or style or whatever....thats why i appreciate this forum so much...to share ideas with drummers all over the world...thats really a great thing
cheers

[thrashed]

cool music dude!! lol :)

could u send me some of your demos as they are really good!

Thrashed

[thrashed]

actually ive found yr website so don't worry (downloading all of your demos as we speak! lol) you guys totally rock dude!!! i'm not a big death metal fan (more sort of punk rock and rock) but you guys kick ass!!!

Thrashed :)

[Markdude465]

Tight... ass... drumming!

I had to swallow my heart when I saw that one-handed roll to rim-shot riff dealy.. omg, sweetness... just so clean and fast and tight... and powerful! Are you using a trigger on your bassdrum? I'm impressed with the sound quality being on such a ghetto-looking kit.

And as for this... *bites toungue* sub-par comment...

Plus, i bet he uses a triple bass pedal, cause if you watch the way he moves his legs, and listen to the bass drum, it just dont add up...

Interesting proposition. Have you ever tried one of those things? It's not the "magical quick fix," or "gimmick" that people seem to think it is. It's not easy to coordinate the right and left foot to get clean sixteenth notes out of it, and being that there are three beaters, you'd be playing dotted eights with each foot. It also takes some practice to get the timing of the upstroke just right.

And you might consider the possibility that he's playing double strokes... a-la Virgil Donati or Tim Waterson. We can only see his thighs, and not his feet, and of course at such high speeds (or when playing doubles), leg movement will be minimal.

[Anchein Vouivra]

It's been a lot sayed before but that's AMAZING BLASTING SPEED !!!! I normally don't really like heavy death metal such as Napalm Death or Slayer, they have sound who is big that it gives me headache, but Vornagar has some cool melodic riffs which makes it a bit Black Metal (that love when it remains underground) and the sound quality is perfect.
If I had to put one personal critic. I prefer more unsane singing/screaming, where the lyrics can't be understood for that kind of music, I'm thinking of Old Man's Child, Ulver, Arcturus...
Anyway you guys are just awesome in your style !!!

[Smoky_McPot]

fast, but horrible music, i dont know how anyone can enjoy it... i bet i could play faster

I would be interested if you can drum faster! Why dont you post a video of your chops??

[stevec]

I don't like the competetive bent going on much. But, I think it's human nature to compare ourselves to others. We do it with other stuff too (cars, money, looks etc.).
At my age, speed doesn't matter much anymore. In fact I am working on what to take out of my licks to simplify and it is the hardest thing to get it to sound right. I find that I'm trying to settle on tasteful hooks that make people tap their feet.
That being said, I was completely floored by that playing by LordMarco!

[Pedro]

For all the people who say that metal music is easy ro that you only need speed to play deat metal and other horrible things...

...check out the band "Death" and first of all the song "Spirit Crusher". If some of these guys can bring up such a creativity and controle like the drummer of Death, then you can say deathmetal is easy or something like that...but otherwise...

and by the way metal is a really difficult genre for drumming....but to understand that you first have to listen to some bands and not judge on the two songs you heard!! And if you do this: don't forget to listen in stead of hearing!

(and b.t.w.: marco is playing black metal)

[darkcherryfade]

My only issue with this straight up death metal sh*t is the limited dynamics. But it is fun to listen to. Lordmarco, tight stuff, man. You have the style down. Post a solo sometime!

[finnhiggins]

I just watched that video, coming late to the party. Impressive chops, Marco. Can't say the music is my kind of thing, I do prefer my death metal a bit more rhythmically varied rather than the 4/4 at ludicrous speeds thing, but you're certainly doing the job well.

But...

That poor crash cymbal! What have you done to it!

[thinkintriplets]

This is just sweetness the whole way through.

I love Death Metal. This IS Death Metal btw peeeps.

Anyways, I just wish drummers would be more accepting of other genres. How can you tell me this has no "dynamics". Try doing a one-handed snare roll, and then tell me thats NOT dynamic.

I think this is some of the best drumming. It is VERY creative, and pushing the boundary of death metal. Its hellova fast which rocks. And its also has some really nifty breaks.

Death Metal rules. Lord Marco, I salute you for being awesome and posting this stuff. When your stuff is available, I will be the first in line to buy it.

Marc.

[finnhiggins]

Anyways, I just wish drummers would be more accepting of other genres. How can you tell me this has no "dynamics". Try doing a one-handed snare roll, and then tell me thats NOT dynamic.


Actually, that's very arguably not dynamic being as "dynamics" in music means changes in volume. One-handed snare rolls are almost invariably a single volume (or dynamic). Since death metal in particular is very focused on loud and heavy the vast majority of the time I think it's pretty fair to say it has no dynamics. A lot of hip-hop has no dynamics too, it just creates interest a different way. So if you want to argue for the strength of death metal as a style it'd probably be better to find a new argument than suggesting it is dynamic when it fairly blatently isn't most of the time.

[darkcherryfade]

Actually, that's very arguably not dynamic being as "dynamics" in music means changes in volume. One-handed snare rolls are almost invariably a single volume (or dynamic). Since death metal in particular is very focused on loud and heavy the vast majority of the time I think it's pretty fair to say it has no dynamics. A lot of hip-hop has no dynamics too, it just creates interest a different way. So if you want to argue for the strength of death metal as a style it'd probably be better to find a new argument than suggesting it is dynamic when it fairly blatently isn't most of the time.

Thanks for sparing me the need to type that!

[thinkintriplets]

I see I seee...

Technical terms.

But at the same time, you cannot tell me that a one-handed snare roll is NOT a useful tool. Even in other genres of music, a one-handed snare roll would be sweetness.


Marc.

[finnhiggins]

I see I seee...

Technical terms.

But at the same time, you cannot tell me that a one-handed snare roll is NOT a useful tool. Even in other genres of music, a one-handed snare roll would be sweetness.

Marc.

Well, yes... it's useful technique. From my experience though a lot of death metal chops aren't very cross-applicable. I've met a few drummers who're awesome at the whole flat dynamic blastbeat thing but who can't play even quite basic funk grooves well because their left hand is totally incapable of changing dynamic inside a groove and their timing is funny when they're not able to play constant subdivisions at a high speed. So while I think some of it is pretty cool, I don't necessarily think that great death metal chops translates well to, for example, great jazz chops.

Don't get me wrong. I do like metal drumming, but I'm of the opinion that the best of it is the stuff that plays around with meter and polyrhythmic phrasing (ala Meshuggah) rather than just focusing on 240bpm+ 4/4 blastbeats. If you're going to remove the dynamics there'd really better be something else to focus on instead, and for me a lot of metal doesn't have anything other than blazingly fast hands and feet going for it.

[thinkintriplets]

If you're going to remove the dynamics there'd really better be something else to focus on instead, and for me a lot of metal doesn't have anything other than blazingly fast hands and feet going for it.


Thats the whole point!!!!!!! The blazing hands and feet!!

Why else listen to death metal? The whole point of it is the fact that its SO DAMNED FAST!!! lol!!

Marc.

[finnhiggins]

Thats the whole point!!!!!!! The blazing hands and feet!!

Why else listen to death metal? The whole point of it is the fact that its SO DAMNED FAST!!! lol!!

Marc.

Why not just stop bothering with the music entirely and obsess over WFD instead? Half the time metal drumming just looks like WFD for feet, at least as far as I can see. Death metal can be cool and creative, but not when it's turned into some kind of competition to see who can execute the most impressive muscle spasm.

I mean, why not just have a competition to see who can manage the most violent epileptic fit or something?

[DrUmStIcKmUrDeReR]

hey marco, your band is now my second fave to dimmu borgir. if you EVER come to montreal, ill have to get an autograph.

PS: i saw in the other thread that you auditioned for vital remains. how'd that go?

[UltimateDrummer55555]

He's a very fast drummer, but a lot of drummers are that way in death metal. He couldn't hold a candle to Dennis Chambers. I can drum on the bass just a fast if not faster with one pedal on my right foot. He's very talented yes, but the fact is a death metal drum has to have fast hands, feet, and a little bit of timing. It's not my music though, a little too heavy. You compare a death medal drummer to let's say a rock drummer. Now eben though usually the death medal drummer has to play very fast while the rock drummer has to really make the song itself sound good. Now he make the song sound better with his drumming, but not good.

[lordmarco]

HELLO. jesus christ i didnt realize how any responses i would be getting. HONESTLY! so thank you all i read them all, i appreciate the support! if any1 has anything bad to say towards my drumming or death metal, PLEASE POST SOMETHING OF YOU PLAYING! I"D truly love to SEE HOW everyone else drums! AND if you say you can drum FASTER then PLEASE POST IT!!!! i WANT TO SEE IT!!!!! anyways.. IF you want to meet me/ see me drum live and you live in EUROPE then keep an eye out for VITAL REMAINS. i am touring with them in EUROPE heres the info:

VITAL BRUTALITY TOUR 2005
VITAL REMAINS (http://www.vitalremains.com/)(US) – Europe Tour 2005
Support acts :

REQUIEM (Ch) 02.09. – 16.09.

MALEDICTIVE PIGS (Ger) 02.09 – 10.09.

NOMINON (S) 11.09. – 30.09.

ASHURA (Fr) 17.09. – 28.09.

DOWNSCAPE (Ger) 28.09. – 12.10.

HIDDEN IN THE FOG (Ger) 01.10. – 14.10.

LIFTHRASIL (Ger) 13.10. – 23.10.

TOMBTHROAT (Ger) 15.10. – 23.10.


DATES:

02. September 05 (D) Glachau Alte Spinnerei
03. September 05 (D) München Titanic City
04. September 05 (D) Adelsheim Live Factory
06. September 05 (CZ) Prag Black Pes Club
07. September 05 (HU) Budapest Blue Hell Club
08. September 05 (HR) Zagreb Mochvara
09. September 05 (SK) Ljubljana Orto Club
10. September 05 (A) Traun Spinnerei
11. September 05 (A) Innsbruck P.M.K.
13. September 05 (I) Rom Alpheus
15. September 05 (I) Prato Anomalia
16. September 05 (CH) Winterthur Gaswerk
17. September 05 (F) Marseille Le Korigan
18. September 05 (E) Barcelona Mephisto
20. September 05 (E) Madrid
21. September 05 (P) Corroios Vale Milhacos
22. September 05 (P) Porto Porto Rio
23. September 05 (E) Irun Tunk
24. September 05 (F) St. Macel les Valence Salle des fetes
29. September 05 (NL) Arnhem Goudvishal
30. September 05 (NL) Rotterdam Baroeg
01. October 05 (B) St. Niklas The Starz
02. October 05 (NL) Groningen Vera
04. October 05 (UK) Dudley JB´s
05. October 05 (UK) Bradford Bradford Rio
06. October 05 (IRE) Dublin Voodoo Lounge
07. October 05 (IRE) Cork An Cruiscin Lan
08. October 05 (UK) London Electrowerkz
09. October 05 (UK) Bristol Full Moon
10. October 05 (B) Gent Frontline
12. October 05 (D) Gießen Jokus
13. October 05 (D) Wermelskirchen AJZ Bahndamm
14. October 05 (D) Duisburg Live Arena
15. October 05 (D) Waltershausen Kulturfabrik
18. October 05 (NOR) Sandnes Tribute
19. October 05 (NOR) Oslo Gamla
20. October 05 (NOR) Trondheim Rock City
21. October 05 (S) Gothenburg Musikens Hus
22. October 05 (DK) Aarhus Musiccafeen
23. October 05 (D) Berlin K 17
24. October 05 (Pol) Torun – Od Nowa
25. October 05 (Pol) Warschau – Progresia
26. October 05 (Pol) Lodz – Dekompresja
27 October 05 (Pol) Wroclaw - Diabolique
28. October 05 (Pol) Katowice - Mega Club
29. October 05 (Sk) Zilina – Sk Death Fest Vol. II
30. October 05 (Serbia ) Belgrad - SKC
31. October 05 (Bh) Sarajevo – tba
01. November 05 (Croa) Rieka – tba
03. November 05 (D) Germany – tba
04. November 05 (F) France – tba
05. November 05 (F) Festival - tba
08. November 05 (Let) Riga – tba
09. November 05 (Lit) – tba
10. November 05 (Est) Tallinn – tba
11. November 05 - Finnalnd – tba
12. November 05 - Finnland – tba
13. November 05 - Finnalnd – tba


SO even then. IF u want to go to the show. and BRing me your bands cd, or anything of you drumming. PLEASE do i'd love to hear it!!!!. anyways thanks everyone have a good life

[thrashed]

WWWOOOWWW!!!! that is a huge tour!!!

practicaly every day from september to november!!!

good luck man!

Thrashed :)

[Tyrnox]

Good job on the Vital remain gig's Marco, I was listening to the cd the other day and I still can't believe your going to fill that drummers shoes. If you guys one day come to montreal, I'll be there, hell I might even be one of the openers, who knows :)

[Stu_Strib]

Yes, of course! Emo must die! Also asparagus, the new Volkswagons, movies starring J-Lo, and web pages where people post pictures of their cats.



Best post ever. Except asparagus tastes good.

Who says Country-Western anymore DogBreath? You must be old like me.

[WARFACE]

I imagine lordmarco's playing goes a lot further than death metal. To be honest I have never heard drumming that fast and consistent (mind you I have never really listened to much death metal or any metal for that matter). I mean just playing that fast is impressive, but he is playing that fast consistently for what I would imagine to be very physically demanding 5 minute songs! Perhaps this kind of drumming does not portray much articulation, dynamic, feel (not meant to be an insult, but its so fast it sounds robotic...but in a good way, as that kind of drumming really fits the music), and it probably is not all that musical to people (I for one). But as it has been stated, different people have different tastes. I think all types of music have a purpose and I think it is ignorant say otherwise. Also, just because he plays in a death metal band, does not mean he is incapable of drumming any other style. I imagine if he has chops like that he is well practiced and I imagine somewhere over the course of his drumming career, he has experimented with different types of drumming.

I don't get this big rivalry all the time! Why do drummers always want to show each other up?! I sense an iota of jealousy from a few. To be honest I imagine a lot of you guys can play fast, but I think it is VERY unlikely that you can play THAT fast (mind you I could be wrong). But marco's speed is insane! Awesome drumming! I'd really like to hear a drum solo showing your other drumming abilities because I really think that your playing runs deeper than JUST death metal.

Jeez we are all supposed to be drummers!!! Brothers and sisters of a great art! Where is the kinship and camaraderie?

In the end, everyone is different and everyone plays differently. So there really is no need to start these grudges. When it comes down to it there are things that you can do that the next drummer can't do, but there are things he can do that you can't. When you get to a certain level of playing and you fall into your style, it is always going to be like that. Get used to it! And embrace this by learning the things that you don't know from other drummers and teaching them the things they don't, but you do. We need to find some peace!

-Brent W

Excellent post man! Marco, awsome drumming and congrats on the Vital Remains tour. I was getting the same thing when I found out my videos were posted here. I dropped by and all it was was the same "drummers trying to show each other up" attitude. I could care less if you play jazz, blues etc. whatever the hell you want to play and I will enjoy it. Why...........because it's drumming. Not one drummer out there doesn't have some unique thing to offer another drummer. Be it a style or a fill.....whatever. Deathmetal drummers play deathmetal.....which is fast and machine like, end of story. I don't know of one "deathmetal" drummer that doesn't just free jam with all sorts of style and skill as everyone is so obsessed over. To bad drumming can't just be our common ground and we all talk about what we do and not complain about what others do.

[Elemental Nausea]

. Deathmetal drummers play deathmetal.....which is fast and machine like, end of story. I don't know of one "deathmetal" drummer that doesn't just free jam with all sorts of style and skill as everyone is so obsessed over..

well I know some, hannes grossmann from "necrophagist" or the "death" drummer on the album with spirti crusher, for example, they are really free styling around the music but keeping it straight and great at the same time

[WARFACE]

you know what I meant. Im not looking to nitpick it down to the finest detail. I meant that the style is just the way it is because it works with the music. Some people are like "he should be groovin and smokin a doobie while layin down a fat beat"

I just get a kick out of the complaining about just another style of music. If someone were to criticise their style all hell would break loose.

[Rick Wilkinson]

Yes, of course! Emo must die! Also asparagus, the new Volkswagons, movies starring J-Lo, and web pages where people post pictures of their cats.


Great drumming. It's not my kind of music either but it's all good. It's kind of like Jazz, kinda fun to play and watch drummers play but I don't have my radio dial set to it.

Here's a pic for ya DogBreath (Oh ya my boy's Pit just had 9 pups cute)

[needforspeed182]

U look like the dude who played with travis barker on duets on much music!

[largo61]

Was that a direct shot at me? LOL

First of all, do you really have a website where you just have pictures of cats? I'm not going to touch that one.

Second of all. Death metal is not my cup of tea. i really don't like it. But to say a drummer like that has no talant is nutty. Death metal is what it is because of the speed. These drummers learn to play this because they want to. They play with a band like this. If they play by themselves it is probably more articulate and tastefull. But that isn't the point. These are really good drummers. Now drummers like Joey Jordison I don't like. He plays metal but he doesn't do it as well. He is full of crowd pleasers and tasteless fills. These drums are actually really good. Even if the music isn't.

I would still like to see a Death Metal drummer play with a four piece. I would have much repect to that drummer if he can do what other death metal drummers do with a 9 piece using a four piece. In conclusion, don't like the music, but he is a really good drummer.

[lordmarco]

I would still like to see a Death Metal drummer play with a four piece. I would have much repect to that drummer if he can do what other death metal drummers do with a 9 piece using a four piece. In conclusion, don't like the music, but he is a really good drummer.

first off. GREAT post. i like what u said. but yeah man...uhmm i usually get the question: HOW come your drumset is so small and u play metal? haha i only have 1 bass drum, 2 rack toms and a floor tom!!!! TRUE i use like . 7 cymbals.. nevertheless i like smaller drumsets. easier to drum on. and its not a pain in the ass PLAYING shows.(since im usually the one carrying all my drums around) haha. but yeah man thanks for the support. im glad u have an open mind for music like death metal. Most people hear the singing and r like./.. UHHHHH. IS THAT GUY VOMITING. or. IS HE EVEN SAYING ANYTHING? hahaha. metal is great.(i personally like the singing, and have u ever pictured death metal with some one actually singing?) anyways,. thanks for the support ciao.......and to everyone i still would like to seee anyone who lives in EUROPE (alllllllll of europe) to please try to make it to the vital remains shows.....especially those who are talking s*** (not necessarly people in this forum... but friends of mine have showed me sum links and i seriously just couldnt help but laugh at what some KIDS are saying dont these people have better s*** to do then to tak s*** about my drumming and other people's drumming.. D***) . Alrighty thanks to those who support and are helpful critics. TAKE CARE

[jamndrummer]

emo? I think some of its ok. its just there. Not very challenging to play. Dont get me wrong Im not saying emo drummers are not good. It just dont challenge me. Death metal I dont like. But I can respect the speed/endurance and chops those drummers require to play that style. I just recorded myself doing a short solo and was hearing another brake through. It was making me move so the groove is comin which makes me more happier about my playing. I love groove and swing feel.

[Zack-Attack]

Wow...you're not human. I don't care what you all say!

[drumbeest]

DUDE!!! 0_0 that IS great! I'm a big fan of black/death metal myself! and this sounds pretty good! also VERRRRY fast drumming!
maybe you could help me in my thread about blastbeats in the technique section?
also for people who say death metal is just straight forward fast drumming you should listen to Opeth! (album: Deliverance) this is actually more black metal like but does have fast double base in it but also jazzy bits and its quite technical!
by the way.. that guy who said 'gimme a double base and I can play just as fast' it took me quite some time to get my double base even, let alone take it up to speed, I like playing sixteenth with it (I'm just not fast enough to play that with just my right foot, but I'm getting there!) but its really fun, you should try it sometimes!

[marre]

I don't like the arguments about that anyone can play that fast or accurate like that guy does, i personally think he is awesome, i can guarantee that no-one can play like that the first time, and you've got to respect peoples music.

It would be like if i would say that "jazz is only for beginners, hell gimme a brush and a drumset and i would be as great as Louie Bellson"

From what i hear is that the ones who says that that kind of drumming is easy, please upload a file while you're playing to a deathmetal song.

And yes, i play Deathmetal, Progressive Deathmetal.

[Brent W]

emo? I think some of its ok. its just there. Not very challenging to play.

I just thought I would say something about this, and I am not attacking you or your comment in any way, because I think I know where you are coming from.

I imagine you mean that the drumming in these popular emo bands that seem to be popping up just about everywhere (personally I hate the whole ideology and application of the genre) is not very difficult or it does not run any further beneath its surface. I couldn't agree with you more. However, I have seen a lot of people make statements like: "Oh rock drumming is easy!" or "Swing is childs-play!" or "Prog Rock is just a bunch of good players that can't actually write music!", etc. The list goes on. I have heard a whole bunch of nonsense. But I think drumming (on a global level), disregarding most pro drummers (ie. ones on this site), has taken a real turn for the worse (music in general). I think music and drumming has turned into a trend. A quick way to get popular amongst your peers. I have also noticed that all these players inspire to be other players and bands, which is natural. I mean who didn't want to be Ringo, playing in the Beatles, or have a kit like Mike Portnoy, or play like Steve Gadd? But when you get to a certain point as a musician, I think it is important to think about what you are actually doing. Everyone is unique! Everyone thinks, plays, and sees things differently. Which is what makes music so great. But it seems now with bands and popular music, that no one wants to be original anymore! My brother and I have a recording studio, and there have been a lot of bands that record at our place, and I hear them talking and working on a new song and such, and they seem to only like 'riffs' if it sounds like something that one of their favourite bands would make. I realize that most people go through this stage. I went through various phases of wanting to be various musicans and drummers. But, it is getting to the point that all these guys start to lose an appreciation for the instrument itself. A drum set is beautiful. There are so many options and possibility, but a lot of people just kind of play the same things over and over. But you can always tell when a drum part has been well thought out or well executed. Anyways, sorry to gear off topic, but my point is that drumming and music's limitations are only as far as you take them. There are a lot of players that get 'comfortable' with the way they play. I think as a musician and a drummer it is our duty to always be learning more and soaking up as many techniques and as much knowledge as possible. Just so many people are close minded with things.

Anyways, to sum all this up: no "genre" can be easy or hard to play. It just depends on what you are doing with your drum parts. You can make all your drum parts as easy or as technical as you want. But in the end I think the most important thing is what it is doing for the song. Just because you are augmenting your ego with a flashy fill, doesn't mean you are doing the same for the rest of the piece. Selfish drumming can ruin good songs. It is all about control and knowing and feeling how you should be playing during the various parts of a song.

My apologies for the long winded speech. I just felt the need to address the matter.
-Brent

[mont_man22]

lord marco has been drumming for like 10 years and ive never heard anyone do free hand drum rolls in the middle of a song like he does not even darren from goratory and hes amayzing too, his db is soo clean and prescise and i think there should be nothing but good things said about him!!!

[jamndrummer]

Originally Posted by jamndrummer
emo? I think some of its ok. its just there. Not very challenging to play.

by BRENT WI just thought I would say something about this, and I am not attacking you or your comment in any way, because I think I know where you are coming from.

I imagine you mean that the drumming in these popular emo bands that seem to be popping up just about everywhere (personally I hate the whole ideology and application of the genre) is not very difficult or it does not run any further beneath its surface. I couldn't agree with you more. However, I have seen a lot of people make statements like: "Oh rock drumming is easy!" or "Swing is childs-play!" or "Prog Rock is just a bunch of good players that can't actually write music!", etc. The list goes on. I have heard a whole bunch of nonsense. But I think drumming (on a global level), disregarding most pro drummers (ie. ones on this site), has taken a real turn for the worse (music in general). I think music and drumming has turned into a trend. A quick way to get popular amongst your peers. I have also noticed that all these players inspire to be other players and bands, which is natural. I mean who didn't want to be Ringo, playing in the Beatles, or have a kit like Mike Portnoy, or play like Steve Gadd? But when you get to a certain point as a musician, I think it is important to think about what you are actually doing. Everyone is unique! Everyone thinks, plays, and sees things differently. Which is what makes music so great. But it seems now with bands and popular music, that no one wants to be original anymore! My brother and I have a recording studio, and there have been a lot of bands that record at our place, and I hear them talking and working on a new song and such, and they seem to only like 'riffs' if it sounds like something that one of their favourite bands would make. I realize that most people go through this stage. I went through various phases of wanting to be various musicans and drummers. But, it is getting to the point that all these guys start to lose an appreciation for the instrument itself. A drum set is beautiful. There are so many options and possibility, but a lot of people just kind of play the same things over and over. But you can always tell when a drum part has been well thought out or well executed. Anyways, sorry to gear off topic, but my point is that drumming and music's limitations are only as far as you take them. There are a lot of players that get 'comfortable' with the way they play. I think as a musician and a drummer it is our duty to always be learning more and soaking up as many techniques and as much knowledge as possible. Just so many people are close minded with things.

Anyways, to sum all this up: no "genre" can be easy or hard to play. It just depends on what you are doing with your drum parts. You can make all your drum parts as easy or as technical as you want. But in the end I think the most important thing is what it is doing for the song. Just because you are augmenting your ego with a flashy fill, doesn't mean you are doing the same for the rest of the piece. Selfish drumming can ruin good songs. It is all about control and knowing and feeling how you should be playing during the various parts of a song.

My apologies for the long winded speech. I just felt the need to address the matter.
-Brent

Brent,
No apoligy needed. I think it was great what you said. And yes drummers should explore different styles learn them all. And we should strive to excel and learn more things about our instruments. I couldnt agree with you more on that one....thanks for your input. For me emo is not challenging, not it wouldnt be for anyone else. Not putting down the style or technique involved in it. But most emo to me is about lyrics which is ok with me. It has its place in the history of music. Thats what makes music that comes and go's interesting in its own way. I like most of the styles out and would play them all.

[low-tech]

the guys using a double pedal. and you can do those types of speeds single stroke, the triggering helps the sound coz its hard to get volume at that speed and the basses are hard to tune idenically. blastbeats are single stroke usually, so think on that if you think you can play faster, this aint a one minute drumometer contest.........its a five minute song thats gonna be part of an HOUR set, or maybe even longer.......blasts like that intermingled with all kinds of changes and fills and whatnot takes alot of endurance and skill.........now look at how long this dudes is touring, he has to do this every day for a long time..............RESPECT

vital remains should play providence more

[sloppyjoe]

i'm not sure but i think this narrow minded thinking considering who's fastest and gimme a double pedal...and so on...could it be a question of age??
i remember me some years ago, every other drummer was a kind of "enemy" (i know sounds kinda stupid) but i always tried to be "better" (whatever that means) than the other drummers..till i found out that you can learn from almost every drummer...either his technique or style or whatever....thats why i appreciate this forum so much...to share ideas with drummers all over the world...thats really a great thing
cheers


That's what I'm going through right now. I have this dedication for speed and talent so I can plow through my peer drummers. It's almost like a self-consous thing for me like people say I'm pretty good but I say to my-self "man i effin suck"

tangent

Anyways, Hey i dont like jazz too much for you jazz people hatein on death metal. It's a style of music get over it. I like it becuase I feel invicible and like I can take anything snd it gets me energetic. (That doesn't follow what I had to say above) But hey it makes me feel good. I forget my problems because I'm "invicible" . Like a music "high". I'm not really that stuck up in person so don't get me wrong.

[sloppyjoe]

Ok I have a problem, the music won't stop playing even if all the windows are gone??? its good though but I want to sleep tonight so....

[Jaymasta]

Ok I like Death metal music and you guys are awsome but.... I just started laughing because I think your screamer guy sounds funny your a great drummer and everythings fine It's just that guy it sounds funny not that different from the other death metal stuff I listen to but....sheesh.



And I like Gnar Kill these are the guys from the CKY dvd's and Jackass movies. Your band kind of reminds me of them (even though Gnar kill is not death metal)

[Bad Drummer]

I can drum on the bass just a fast if not faster with one pedal on my right foot..

Yeah, sure you can. LIAR. I have to give lordmarco props for some reasons because when he plays those rolls on the toms it is very, very smooth and tight, very enjoyable. However, you do a great job on the double bass, but it seems like you are over using it a bit. On the first song it really did sound to me like it was skipping. I don't know maybe that's just death metal (I don't listen to metal AT ALL, so sorry if I am completely off base). BUT you sounded great with those tight short rolls on the double bass, they sounded great with the combos you were doing with your hands.

Plus, I have something against a double bass pedal for some reason (because I can't play it), so I just prefer single pedal. Very good drumming.

[DamageInc]

post a video of "Bleeding Holocaust" that song is f***** sick.

[DogBreath]

now now dog breath, lets not bash other musical styles. this site is not meant to bash. i think youa re beign too harsh. there might be people here who enjpy emo and you will make them feel bad. saying something liek emo must die ior death metal must die is totally unacceptable. lets be proffesional now. if you want to bash there are plenty of other sites on the internet for thsi kind of childish behavior. so let thsi be a warning.
Spellchecker, my friend. One version or another comes bundled with most operating systems. Look into it.

[geek_boy_in]

(and b.t.w.: marco is playing black metal)


If I had to put one personal critic. I prefer more unsane singing/screaming, where the lyrics can't be understood for that kind of music, I'm thinking of Old Man's Child, Ulver, Arcturus...
Anyway you guys are just awesome in your style !!!


hehehehehe this thread is getting hilarious ..... black, blue, grey, orange metal ...... milo with his cat ......

btw if Milo is banned how can he still post ???

anyways ...... u know what ... i kinda liked this guy and his style ..... He doesn't seem to look like a vomiting, spitting monster .. but instead quite a decent jovial guy ....... and a cool and composed posture with good technique....... and surprisingly i liked the music too ... prolly these guys would be a HIT !! ......

[mediocrefunkybeat]

now now dog breath, lets not bash other musical styles. this site is not meant to bash. i think youa re beign too harsh. there might be people here who enjpy emo and you will make them feel bad. saying something liek emo must die ior death metal must die is totally unacceptable. lets be proffesional now. if you want to bash there are plenty of other sites on the internet for thsi kind of childish behavior. so let thsi be a warning.

I just noticed this... how friggin' hilarious is that?

[geek_boy_in]

Ok I have a problem, the music won't stop playing even if all the windows are gone??? its good though but I want to sleep tonight so....



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ....... another good one !!!! now am bookmarking this thread ...

[Slayer_metal_head]

DEATH METAL IS THE BEST STUFF TO HIT THE EARTH

but i seriously think that you use a quad bass pedal or a triple a dualist pedal on each bass drum or a triple dualist http://www.theduallist.com/index.html

[andmoreagain]

DEATH METAL IS THE BAEST STUFF TO HIT THE EARTH

...and the crickets go wild... I'm just kidding man, it is just not my cup of tea, but to each his own.

[Slayer_metal_head]

sorry nvm u use double bass youre awesome man i love you bands music how do yo do one handed rolls like that how long you been playing you r amazing like your music too

[Slayer_metal_head]

He's a very fast drummer, but a lot of drummers are that way in death metal. He couldn't hold a candle to Dennis Chambers. I can drum on the bass just a fast if not faster with one pedal on my right foot. He's very talented yes, but the fact is a death metal drum has to have fast hands, feet, and a little bit of timing. It's not my music though, a little too heavy. You compare a death medal drummer to let's say a rock drummer. Now eben though usually the death medal drummer has to play very fast while the rock drummer has to really make the song itself sound good. Now he make the song sound better with his drumming, but not good.

You can go faster with one foot yeah right okay if you can show me fine you should go for a record if not the be quiet and go practise playing your drums, you say you can go faster prove it but to lord marco can you get a video of just your feet because i want to see the way you move your feet and everything cause i want to learn from you i like your music but i still like SLAYER BETTER becasue your blast beats just take to much focus off the music and more to your drumming and to me it acually decreases the heaviness of the music (to me) but dont get me wrong your are still a kick ass drummer!

during your video when you did the slower snare beats that made your music more appealing to me if you started off slower and near the end at the climax of the song started
doing those crazy blast beats it would make the song much more appealing, do you roll the toms when you do a solo cause its sounds so fastbut it looks slow but anyway jeep on rocking !!

[nate]

nice. i don't own a lot of death metal but i like it when i hear it...
just watching your video from your web site - i like the fact you have a beatles poster behind you - it's good when people listen to loads of diffrent genres of music
you guys sound great - hope the tour goes well - it's great you play on such a small kit....

[W.O.A.]

Berzerker drummer..for sure.

[mediocrefunkybeat]

FYI Slayer metal head... Slayer isn't death metal. No gutteral screaming. It's speed metal.

Listen to some Children of Bodom, that's melodic black metal. Then listen to Cryptopsy, that's death metal.

[W.O.A.]

Yes..ur right..Dave Lombardo isn't a bad drummer...but he cant be considered a "super fast" drummer of our generation...(he is like Lars....well im not comparing him to lars (will be an insult for dave..)...well u know wut i mean !

[nate]

FYI Slayer metal head... Slayer isn't death metal. No gutteral screaming. It's speed metal.

Listen to some Children of Bodom, that's melodic black metal. Then listen to Cryptopsy, that's death metal....

or the band "Death" (are they death metal?)

anyhow i like Doom metal more, no really i do (the drumming is less busy)

genres? who cares? apart form record companies and some of you lot (why?????)

[geek_boy_in]

doom metal, speed metal with melodic black metal and death metal :)

[mediocrefunkybeat]

...

or the band "Death" (are they death metal?)

anyhow i like Doom metal more, no really i do (the drumming is less busy)

genres? who cares? apart form record companies and some of you lot (why?????)

Death are, yes. Sorry for the nitpicking; I just get annoyed when people called Slayer death metal.

I'm quite partial to Sunn 0)) on certain days.

[franklinj]

...

or the band "Death" (are they death metal?)

anyhow i like Doom metal more, no really i do (the drumming is less busy)

genres? who cares? apart form record companies and some of you lot (why?????)

Death is THE first real death metal band.

What would In Flames be considered? They got a bad ass drummer.

[geek_boy_in]

Death is THE first real death metal band.

What would In Flames be considered? They got a bad ass drummer.

ummmm ..... flame metal ????

[mont_man22]

Ok marco.............stop being amayzing or stop posting vids, because i cant stop crying and im actually very depressed and noticing hints of alchoholism so jjust quit it!! I'm kidding nice work as usual!! post some new vids!

[tama_swingstar]

I agree with Drummer Dude, death metal needs to die! Also country-western music, disco, polka, new age, easy listening, electronica, and anything else that I don't like.



Or . . .



I can accept the fact that other things exist in the world that people besides myself enjoy, and maybe those things shouldn't "die" because then everyone would have to listen to only what I like. Hmm. I guess I'll have to think about this one.



=-)

or it could be that your just jelous !!!! lol

[Drummer Karl]

Cool drumming but I hate this kind of music but still good!
keep it up!

[incubotic]

wow...amazing drumming man..i can't believe how relaxed u were...nice chops.
i'm not to partial to death metal either..but this is a drumming website, so that's irrelevent..i'd really like to hear some more of ur drumming, i'm sure u can play many genres with those chops...what kind of practice techniques do u usually do?

[Bango61]

That's awsome dude, I loved the drums, I wish I could drum that fast.

[Led Opeth]

death metal needs to die. theres no articulation involved, just pure speed. hell gimme a double pedal, a guy who can scream, and ive got a death metal band.
hey chief listen to opeth....thats some friggin death metal with articulation

[hateplow]

death metal needs to die. theres no articulation involved, just pure speed. hell gimme a double pedal, a guy who can scream, and ive got a death metal band.
I'm amazed at the ignorance of some people in this forum. It makes NO SENSE to completely discredit an entire genre of music, just because you don't like it. Remember when people called "Rock and Roll" like the Beatles "noise"? Don't fear what you don't understand...it makes you sound like an old curmudgeon.

[fourstringdrums]

I'm amazed at the ignorance of some people in this forum. It makes NO SENSE to completely discredit an entire genre of music, just because you don't like it. Remember when people called "Rock and Roll" like the Beatles "noise"? Don't fear what you don't understand...it makes you sound like an old curmudgeon.

I agree completely. I couldn't hear this particular song because it wouldn't load, but I saw lordmarcus' other video. Death Metal isn't my type of music. In fact, depending on the vocals I think it's downright horrible. BUT death metal drummers have my respect as much as any other drummer, if not more than some other genres in some respects. Anybody who can play that fast, with precision, endurance, and with some guys, that much LACK of movement, you can't deny the talent and hard work they put in and how impressive it is. As I said, even though I don't really like death metal, I wish that I could master the drumming just for the sake of having that same skill.

[hateplow]

I agree completely. I couldn't hear this particular song because it wouldn't load, but I saw lordmarcus' other video. Death Metal isn't my type of music. In fact, depending on the vocals I think it's downright horrible. BUT death metal drummers have my respect as much as any other drummer, if not more than some other genres in some respects. Anybody who can play that fast, with precision, endurance, and with some guys, that much LACK of movement, you can't deny the talent and hard work they put in and how impressive it is. As I said, even though I don't really like death metal, I wish that I could master the drumming just for the sake of having that same skill.
EXACTLY!
Well put.
(20 characters)

[M2Kstyle]

Very nice. The only thing that went wrong was that you were off by like a 16th at one of the beginning cymbol chokes. Other than that im impressed. But I wouldn't go as far as to say your the best ive ever heard. But you're pretty damn good.

Also I like your guitarist. lol

[King Ruckus]

Dude...forget all those other comments....you rock!

[infernal drummer]

impressive .. not many ppl can play that.. who can duplicate that!? it would take months! i have huge respect for drummers that can pull that type of playing down live..

[must.warn.them]

I totally aggree with king ruckus. Jealousy and close mindedness inspires alot of people to automaticly dissmiss the beauty in making something other than within the box they live in. I really hope you guys get as big as amon amarth, and trivium and children of bodom...ect.

In fact I am going to purchase your album in support of you guys. Just listening to the drumming alone is inspiring and keep up the postitive outlook. It really makes all of those who bash you look a whole lot less credible.

[Backwards Marathon]

Ok I like Death metal music and you guys are awsome but.... I just started laughing because I think your screamer guy sounds funny your a great drummer and everythings fine It's just that guy it sounds funny not that different from the other death metal stuff I listen to but....sheesh.



And I like Gnar Kill these are the guys from the CKY dvd's and Jackass movies. Your band kind of reminds me of them (even though Gnar kill is not death metal)

i thought brandon dicamillow or however you spell it sang that?

[Josh is a cult]

I LOVE YOUR DRUMMING...
GREAT BAND...
Good Music...

[MOONCHILD]

ok i know its death metal what makes you hard but face it drumming on most of those albums is at least said vulgar,can you please stop talking that drumming with 2pedals you know that is something to be apretiated,its just like running a marathon.Ok i admit it sounds good and heavy but it isnt that hard and there is no beauty in it.Like someone here said you cant dance on chanisaw.

[Taylor]

If it isnt so hard then you should try learning the songs. Beauty is subjective (meaning its not just john bonham). There's a lot more feeling and passion in death metal or most types of metal for that matter than the garbage thats on the radio.

ok i know its death metal what makes you hard but face it drumming on most of those albums is at least said vulgar,can you please stop talking that drumming with 2pedals you know that is something to be apretiated,its just like running a marathon.Ok i admit it sounds good and heavy but it isnt that hard and there is no beauty in it.Like someone here said you cant dance on chanisaw.

[d.c.drummer]

Definatly not my type of music. But I have to hand it to your.
You are the Best Metal Drummer Ive heard on this forum.!!!

[emmerson]

fast drumming sure it sounds cool but thats all it is it has no feel to it there more to drumming than just speed

[dizkneelande]

Yes, of course! Emo must die! Also asparagus, the new Volkswagons, movies starring J-Lo, and web pages where people post pictures of their cats.



all in favor say I

20 chars shutup i know

[komodo]

Dam i wish i had a picture of a cat to post :p But speed drummin is kwl,there are different sub categories if you will to drummin,and each of the different aspects makes drumming unique in that it has more variety

[spartacus1989]

Yes, of course! Emo must die! Also asparagus, the new Volkswagons, movies starring J-Lo, and web pages where people post pictures of their cats.



BRING BACK THE 60'S CAMPERS!!

had to say that after reading that comment.
Anyway now time for me to say something on topic!

I won't say that death metal has to die,
1. because i don't mind it
2. because at gigs its so funny to see people who think they can mosh and i also like to see fat people crowd surf :D (not suggesting that all people who crowd surf are fat, but anyway...)

Although, as far as the drumming is conserned, it is all athletic. Just because you can play really fast doesn't make you musically talented, it means your great at speed!





Now I think I should shut up!

END!

[jordster1991]

Hey this is my new band and i want some opinions on our original song
http://www.youtube.com/user/jordster.../1/BgrhXclgiJM
thanks
Jordan
btw i know that i'm not playing the song death metal fast but it's still pretty fast