Danny Carey

[Goody602]

How about that snare/tom groove he plays at around 2:15 in 'The Pot' when they're transitioning into the next verse. Just perfect.

[Bonzo_88]

i saw TOOL at nottingham aswell, best gig ever! btw the mastodon drummer was pretty cool aswell, although their sound was a bit pants. in my opinion, danny carey is the best drummer in rock since bonham died. the way he integrates every different aspect of drumming to his playing is truly unique, and he has influenced me and alot of other players im sure. TOOL are (again in my opinion), the best band since zep. anyone doubting his skil or his prowess should check out mer-ka-ba.

cheers, chris
x

[altered_beast]

I wouldn't go so far as to say best ever, but it was certainly a very very good show. I absolutely love the way Danny plays, it's amazing how inspirational that guy is, yet at the same time damning cos you know you'll never be better than him.

We missed most of Mastodon's set, only caught the last 4 or 5 songs, I really like Mastodon anyway, the latest album is absolutely fantastic, a true prog metal masterpiece.

As far as Merkaba goes, unless you download it, the only way you'll get it is on Salival, which is pretty expensive and fairly difficult to get hold of now. I got mine about a year ago, it's fantastic.

Cheers

Al

[Bonzo_88]

I wouldn't go so far as to say best ever, but it was certainly a very very good show. I absolutely love the way Danny plays, it's amazing how inspirational that guy is, yet at the same time damning cos you know you'll never be better than him.

We missed most of Mastodon's set, only caught the last 4 or 5 songs, I really like Mastodon anyway, the latest album is absolutely fantastic, a true prog metal masterpiece.

As far as Merkaba goes, unless you download it, the only way you'll get it is on Salival, which is pretty expensive and fairly difficult to get hold of now. I got mine about a year ago, it's fantastic.

Cheers

Al

aye, salivial is expensive, but definately worth it, i discourage people from downloading tool music, as of the
way its presente, album art etc.

chris
x

[cardan]

aye, salivial is expensive, but definately worth it, i discourage people from downloading tool music, as of the
way its presente, album art etc.

chris
x

I agree, Chris (my name is Chris too...), but I think Salival might be the only exception to that, because it's pretty hard to find, and if you do find it, if the seller know's what it is, it'll probably be expensive...all their other albums are somewhat easy to get, and priced "normally"...

[altered_beast]

I agree, Chris (my name is Chris too...), but I think Salival might be the only exception to that, because it's pretty hard to find, and if you do find it, if the seller know's what it is, it'll probably be expensive...all their other albums are somewhat easy to get, and priced "normally"...

some formats moreso than others - you seen how much aenima goes for on vinyl these days? shocking. i have a lateralus vinyl tho!! : ) sealed as well, never even had it out the shrinkwrap!

[altered_beast]

aye, salivial is expensive, but definately worth it, i discourage people from downloading tool music, as of the
way its presente, album art etc.

chris
x

I would agree with that for the last two albums, but Aenima and Undertow and definitely Opiate, the artwork isn't really upto much on those. It's good, and it's pretty different, but in comparison to, say Lateralus and 10,000 Days, it's not quite up to scratch IMO. 10,000 Days is unlike any other artwork in my collection. Fantastic, so unique.

[finnhiggins]

I would agree with that for the last two albums, but Aenima and Undertow and definitely Opiate, the artwork isn't really upto much on those. It's good, and it's pretty different, but in comparison to, say Lateralus and 10,000 Days, it's not quite up to scratch IMO. 10,000 Days is unlike any other artwork in my collection. Fantastic, so unique.

Depending on when you bought your copy of Aenima you may have got the cool gimmicky animated CD case. They were cool...

But I have to say, as their music has got worse their album art has got increasingly ornate ;)

Salival is sort of worth getting, but only for the CD. And even then, there's only a couple of memorable tracks. No Quarter is cool, Third Eye live shows their precision and energy (but doesn't do anything to improve on the album version, really) and the live version of Pushit is something I'm still to be sold on. I think it's a great live track when you're in the middle of a few thousand sweaty people nearly passing out from lack of oxygen, but the album track serves the song better on CD, if you ask me.

[altered_beast]

Depending on when you bought your copy of Aenima you may have got the cool gimmicky animated CD case. They were cool...

But I have to say, as their music has got worse their album art has got increasingly ornate ;)

Salival is sort of worth getting, but only for the CD. And even then, there's only a couple of memorable tracks. No Quarter is cool, Third Eye live shows their precision and energy (but doesn't do anything to improve on the album version, really) and the live version of Pushit is something I'm still to be sold on. I think it's a great live track when you're in the middle of a few thousand sweaty people nearly passing out from lack of oxygen, but the album track serves the song better on CD, if you ask me.

I kind of agree but seeing Tool on stage now is nothing short of astonishing. I've never seen a stage show quite like it, absolutely amazing, they put on a proper "show" in the true sense of the word, there's so much going on you just don't know where to look. The tickets were expensive but in hindsight well worth it.

I think Salival is worth it for the DVD/ video whichever version you get. The videos are really cool if you're into that sort of thing, I personally have a big thing for stop motion animation and think the work Adam Jones does is nothing short of astonishing. He has to be good at something eh?

[finnhiggins]

I kind of agree but seeing Tool on stage now is nothing short of astonishing. I've never seen a stage show quite like it, absolutely amazing, they put on a proper "show" in the true sense of the word, there's so much going on you just don't know where to look. The tickets were expensive but in hindsight well worth it.


I just can't be bothered anymore. I saw them in 1997, 2001 & 2002 and just gradually watched them decend from being a fantastic band to just having a fantastic show. In 1997 they were nothing short of astonishing live - Maynard had phenomenal stage presence, and the whole band were tearing the roof off the place. Come 2001/2002 they were just a bunch of boring guys hiding behind a giant array of screens showing dodgy CG...

[C_H]

i heard his playing is quite mathematical, sometimes his rhythms are based o nthe fibionacci sequence like his kit being arranged to make some strange symbol

[finnhiggins]

i heard his playing is quite mathematical, sometimes his rhythms are based o nthe fibionacci sequence like his kit being arranged to make some strange symbol

They're a bit into that, but from what I've seen of their music it seems to just be a clever trick thing - you know, pick a bunch of numbers and then try to phrase around it musically. I don't think there's any actual musical value in using things that far out into the mathematical realm, any musicality that is there is something independent of that.

It's cute, but I don't think it's anything other than being a smart-arse. Mudvayne have demonstrated quite nicely that using "arcane number systems" (blah) doesn't make your music any less awful if you're not already good.

(you may be thinking of Maynard's vocal phrasing on the verse in Lateralus, BTW - the syllables are grouped together as 1 (black) 1 (and) 2 (white are) 3 (all I see) 5 (in my infancy) 8 (red and yellow then came to be) 5 (reaching out to me) 3 (helps me see) or something like that, which is a run up and down the first chunk of the fibonacci sequence: 0 1 1 2 3 5 8)

[altered_beast]

I just can't be bothered anymore. I saw them in 1997, 2001 & 2002 and just gradually watched them decend from being a fantastic band to just having a fantastic show. In 1997 they were nothing short of astonishing live - Maynard had phenomenal stage presence, and the whole band were tearing the roof off the place. Come 2001/2002 they were just a bunch of boring guys hiding behind a giant array of screens showing dodgy CG...

That's fair enough, for those of us who are only in our early 20's now we'd have been lucky to see them in 2001/2002 and definitely not before then. So I'm gonna stick by what I said, their show is fantastic, I thoroughly enjoyed it and I also thought they were among the best live bands I've seen. Mastodon were also excellent.

[matt rodriguez]

that's interesting, i've never heard of anyone playing snare off with the snares really tight to make it sound like it's on. I'm going to listen to Tool more to check it out.


i still find myself somewhat confused... how exactly does Danny configure his snare(s)? I also sing, so in my years as a Tool fan it was mainly because Maynard is probably my favorite male voice of all time, or at least in the rock/metal/pop genre. But as i have developed as a musician ive really taken in all aspects of their music and image, and Danny Carey's style has really intrigued me. I'd be curious to know if anyone knows for a fact his tuning/set-up techniques =]

[altered_beast]

It doesn't really sound as though his snares are on when they're not. If you listen to the recordings there's a distinct difference. The bit that really comes to mind where it's obvious is in "The Grudge" where it's first building up to go into that rock style riff that ends with Maynard singing "...and we're sinking deeper" or something along those lines, can't remember the exact lyric. I like the way he uses the snare as a dynamic in that sense, it sounds much softer and less aggressive then bam! it's there. Tool have an amazing way of building their songs from swirling, atmospheric riffs to rocky, hard guitar based music. Brilliance! I still think they're one of the best live bands, I can understand for someone who's been with them from Aenima they may be disappointing now but I picked them up from Lateralus and I love that style.

[Goody602]

It doesn't really sound as though his snares are on when they're not. If you listen to the recordings there's a distinct difference.

On pre-Aenima recordings and 10,000 Days his snare drum sounds very different snares on/off, but I think on Lateralus and especially Aenima, they sound quite similar.

Yes, there certainly is a difference, and perhaps as you listen more and more it becomes easier to tell, but I've never heard a snare drum that sounds that similar with the snares on and off, and perhaps it has something to do with the recording but still, it's closer than anything I've ever heard. It leads me to believe he really cranks those heads. I agree with you though, that it is a great effect when he does flip 'em on for a section, almost like slapping your car into 5th and flooring it on a straightaway.

[matt rodriguez]

anyone have any good videos uploaded of his playing? im having a hard time with YouTube...

[terry_bozzio_wanna_be]

sorry if this is somewhere else, but i cant find it,

does anyone know what danny carey's cymbal set up is with his jeff ocheltree kit, the one seen on the video on drummerworld.
all i can find is his current set up.

[DrumNut]

Indyke does some indepth analysis of Danny Carey and talks about Stravinsky and classical influences

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghNcpvqmskY

[altered_beast]

sorry if this is somewhere else, but i cant find it,

does anyone know what danny carey's cymbal set up is with his jeff ocheltree kit, the one seen on the video on drummerworld.
all i can find is his current set up.

The setup on that video is a scaled down version of what he normally plays - see the lack of electronics? He's been playing those for over ten years now.

[Merkaba]

Danney carey is my all time favorite drummer. He has a style like know other. His abilaty to create is like that of god- for any religous people out there, that was an exageration not a slight against god, intent was not to offend- His skill and coordination is undeniably great. Tool for that matter is the most amazing and creative rock band out there, in my opinion of course.

By the way I did hear a bit of volto I tried to download but I do not know how to where I need to go to download volto, and I dont know how either. would any one be able to help me. I am severely computer challenged.

[2882]

Half man half amazing

[Drum-Head]

I don't know if this has been posted on these boards already but there is this nice interview of Danny on The Drummer's Digest site:

- Danny Carey Interview (http://www.drummersdigest.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=214&Itemid=25)

[Breadmonkey]

thanks for the link man. that bronze kit still fascinates me. HAVE to play one somewhere down the line, so beautiful.
Good interview as well...

[nadslaing]

I don't know how people think that Tool has been on the downward slope from Aenima. In my mind Lateralus was their best album. Given that, they have only had one release since then (10k days)!

I'll admit that 10,000 days wasn't as good as Aenima and Lateralus, but it was still an awesome album. And I can't believe some people liked Opiate and Undertow better than 10,000 days.

As for the live show, I saw them two days ago in Sydney. They were nothing short of amazing - I don't know how they would have had a better live show 9 years ago.

[Solaris]

I had the privilege of seeing Tool last Sunday at Big Day Out. Even though it was an outdoor stage and nowhere near as big as the size stage they would be used to it was still an awesome show. I managed to get almost right up to the barrier, seeing a drummer such as Danny that close an unforgettable experience. The way he hits is just phenomenal; even when he is playing quietly his strokes still have such power behind them.

On his snare - I think in an interview with Danny’s drum tech he said that he has his snare head tuned really tight. If you notice in some photos he has a spare snare sitting behind his kit just in case he breaks the head on the edge of the snare. I guess playing those paiste snares doesn't help it too much.

He uses clear G2s over G1s on his toms and a power stroke on his snare. I'm not sure what bass heads he uses, but I know his reso head is a mesh of some sort; I was able to see through it when they played.

[altered_beast]

I had the privilege of seeing Tool last Sunday at Big Day Out. Even though it was an outdoor stage and nowhere near as big as the size stage they would be used to it was still an awesome show. I managed to get almost right up to the barrier, seeing a drummer such as Danny that close an unforgettable experience. The way he hits is just phenomenal; even when he is playing quietly his strokes still have such power behind them.

On his snare - I think in an interview with Danny’s drum tech he said that he has his snare head tuned really tight. If you notice in some photos he has a spare snare sitting behind his kit just in case he breaks the head on the edge of the snare. I guess playing those paiste snares doesn't help it too much.

He uses clear G2s over G1s on his toms and a power stroke on his snare. I'm not sure what bass heads he uses, but I know his reso head is a mesh of some sort; I was able to see through it when they played.

He's on EC2's on his toms batter side now, I have something on one of the recent-ish Drummer magazines about it, I emailed the magazine to make sure. It's EQ3 Clear on the batter of the kick and a "Retro Screen" on the front head of the kick.

[danp212]

Danny is such a master at his style of music. It's to bad he couldnt find a better Tabla instructor, Aloke is definitely not one of the Tabla greats in the US right now. You would think Danny would want to take from the best......

[DWfan20005]

I can use 5 adjectives to refer to Danny Carey's playing. These adjectives would have to be polyrythmic, odd-time signatured, original, surpising and flawless. Enough said.

[camerrandom]

amazing drummer!!!
my favorite ones are from the aenima album: forty six and two, and third eye
incredible sound

[DWfan20005]

amazing drummer!!!
my favorite ones are from the aenima album: forty six and two, and third eye
incredible sound

What about Stinkfist,thats a great song.

[altered_beast]

I can use 5 adjectives to refer to Danny Carey's playing. These adjectives would have to be polyrythmic, odd-time signatured, original, surpising and flawless. Enough said.

since odd time signatured is 3 words you might struggle to use that as an adjective mate!

[DWfan20005]

since odd time signatured is 3 words you might struggle to use that as an adjective mate!


ROFL,thanks for pointing that out. Cross odd time signatures out then,lol.

[tmerritt]

Danny Carey tore his bicep this weekend. He had surgery today and came through it fine. The whole North American tour will be rescheduled.


Tool Tour To Be Rescheduled

Los Angeles, CA - February 21, 2007 - Tool will be rescheduling their upcoming North American tour due to an injury in the band. Over the weekend, drummer Danny Carey tore a bicep. Danny underwent surgery TODAY and is recovering well. Rescheduled tour dates will be announced shortly.

(Note: Danny just got out of surgery and it went well)

Source: www.toolband.com

[Solaris]

I read about that as well, it must have killed.

I hope he makes a full recovery soon.

[DWfan20005]

Danny Carey tore his bicep this weekend. He had surgery today and came through it fine. The whole North American tour will be rescheduled.



Source: www.toolband.com

The rescheduled tour dates are posted on Billboard.com now.

[harryconway]

seriously, is this what this forum is here for? It's a discussion forum! I see you guys posting the same thing in every other post. If this isn't a discussion forum then take it down. Seriously, all you guys seem to get a kick out of telling people to use the search function. I'll say it again, Discussion forum! that's what it's for.
2) BALANCE AND VALUE.

Please think carefully before making a new thread. Read through exsisting threads in case one exsists already with similar subject matter. Too many threads actually can ruin a forum. Moderators may delete obvious repeats if the problem persists.
Also consider which forum your thread belongs to. Try to only post a thread in the 'General discussion' forum if it really doesn't fit anywhere else. Please give clear titles to your threads too. Vague mis-leading titles are really annoying and may be modified.

[Tam]

I love Danny Carey. He is one of the most amazing drummers out there. I can't explain how much he and his playing means to me... I had a priviledge of seeing him last summer with the Pigmy Love Circus and it was great. I was standing ten feet away from him and his kit. Wow. While he was playing, he looked straight at me for a few seconds and I just nodded my head... we both knew. It's a drummer thing guys, hehe.


love this drummer and also had the priviledge of seeing tool at the Big Day Out here in Australia.

genuine, skilled, creative + more = Danny Carey

[Green and Mean]

He has an incredible sound, but I'd like to see him playing more beat in Tool.
At the moment I am learning to play Sober( two crazy fills and that calm place in the song where Danny plays with cymbals - these are difficult ones) and I must say that he is truly amazing drummer.

[tooldrums1000]

Did anyone know that danny has drums made out of recycled paistes?!? Hes playing them in this video. http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/dannycarey.html . He is such a good drummer. HES SO CREATIVE! I feel that tool has a very creative sound. Intolerance is a perfect song! His drums go perfect along with Keenans vocals and Chancellors rumbling bass and Jones SCREAMING guitar.

[Jammin' Jamin]

Danny Carey is my type of drummer- a creative genius. My drum teacher showed me how to play the 4 bars from the song Eulogy that start at about 6:30. It sounds somewhat easy, but when you see it written out... wow. I still can't play it as good as Danny does on the track. It has sort of a triplet feel with the hi-hat openings every 3rd hit, but it's actually sixteenth notes. So it takes 3 measures for the opening to be on beat 1 again. I'm sure that doesn't make any sense. Believe, it's cool though. Listen to it.

[Mapex589]

Saw Tool last night in St. Louis. That is the 3rd time I have seen Tool and that was without a doubt the best show so far and is in my top 10 shows of all time. We had seats in the suites and ran into Danny Carey's dad!! Some guys we were with saw this older gentleman wearing a Danny Carey shirt and stopped him to acknowledge the cool shirt and he said "well Danny is my son". He was a very nice guy, we didn't bother him for too long, just said nice to meet you and moved along but it was thrilling anyway. Oh and Danny was just wicked to watch.....what a talent!

[nebula821]

Danny Carey is my type of drummer- a creative genius. My drum teacher showed me how to play the 4 bars from the song Eulogy that start at about 6:30. It sounds somewhat easy, but when you see it written out... wow. I still can't play it as good as Danny does on the track. It has sort of a triplet feel with the hi-hat openings every 3rd hit, but it's actually sixteenth notes. So it takes 3 measures for the opening to be on beat 1 again. I'm sure that doesn't make any sense. Believe, it's cool though. Listen to it.

I've always loved that part, it sounds really complicated at first listen.

[irishnd74]

Saw Tool last night in St. Louis. That is the 3rd time I have seen Tool and that was without a doubt the best show so far and is in my top 10 shows of all time. We had seats in the suites and ran into Danny Carey's dad!! Some guys we were with saw this older gentleman wearing a Danny Carey shirt and stopped him to acknowledge the cool shirt and he said "well Danny is my son". He was a very nice guy, we didn't bother him for too long, just said nice to meet you and moved along but it was thrilling anyway. Oh and Danny was just wicked to watch.....what a talent!

That is cool. I went and seen 'em in Winston Salem, it's the 4th time I have seen Tool. Those guys are in a league of their own. I for the life of me cannot figure out the part of 46 and 2. The guy is just amazing.

[Mapex589]

I for the life of me cannot figure out the part of 46 and 2. The guy is just amazing.

And he nailed that part last night...it was awesome!!

[IAChoquette311]

I saw TOOL the night after, in Ft. Wayne. He is a God. During Laterlis<sp the drummer from poop banana or whatever they're called came out and jammed with DC for about 7 minutes. They're is nothing like seeing that band playing that song for about 20 minutes. Just phenomenal! He nailed 46&2 that night also. O... and stinkfist is by far the heaviest song i've ever heard live.
P.S. During the drumming duel in Lat. MJK was playing rock/paper/sissors with the lead singer of The Banana Band. Kinda cool for some reason.

[voldak]

hey...


anybody know what drums danny is playing on at the end of "Disposition"/the beginning of "Reflection"? The wikipedia says that he was playing tabla, but I was just wondering about the drum that does the huge bass and changes pitch. If that was tabla, or something else....

[nebula821]

Another great part that he plays is in the song Lateralus. It starts about 5 minutes into it with a little hi-hat part and then he incorporates god knows what with the kick and snare. Sounds polyrythmic but I don't know, Anyone?

[Breadmonkey]

hey...


anybody know what drums danny is playing on at the end of "Disposition"/the beginning of "Reflection"? The wikipedia says that he was playing tabla, but I was just wondering about the drum that does the huge bass and changes pitch. If that was tabla, or something else....

As far as I know, that could well be one of his Mandala pads. I thought I remembered reading somewhere that they were capable of playing bent note stuff. Apologies if this is false.

Nebula, I can play the bit you're talking about (after months upon months of playing this song incorrectly) but I honestly wouldn't have the know-how to explain it. Hopefully one of the more knowledgable among us can help you out.

[voldak]

Another great part that he plays is in the song Lateralus. It starts about 5 minutes into it with a little hi-hat part and then he incorporates god knows what with the kick and snare. Sounds polyrythmic but I don't know, Anyone?

I don't think it's polyrythmic. Whenever I play that part, I really dont' count it. It's more of a feeling....the two on the hat, then another two...immediately after the second hit on the second time you hit the snare. THen throw in the bass....I don't know, I just don't count it.

@BreadMonkey

It very well could be the Mandala Pads. I'm not familiar at all with Mandala. Thanks for the reply.

[Joel Woody]

because of Danny Carey, im proud to be from Kansas.....haha.....same way with wes scantlin.....but thats another topic

[Anchein Vouivra]

Oh no! I'm so sad, I'm on my way to see Tool tonight ;) This will be the third time in one year and I still can't get enough. Unfortunately the first part will be In Extremo and Within Temptation, but who cares as long as I can see master Carey well enough and delight my hears and eyes on Aenima i'm almost the happiest guy!
May you all enjoy your evening.........

[Joel Woody]

Oh no! I'm so sad, I'm on my way to see Tool tonight ;) This will be the third time in one year and I still can't get enough. Unfortunately the first part will be In Extremo and Within Temptation, but who cares as long as I can see master Carey well enough and delight my hears and eyes on Aenima i'm almost the happiest guy!
May you all enjoy your evening.........

you lucky jerk........haha....just messin

[Thedude1620]

I don't think it's polyrythmic. Whenever I play that part, I really dont' count it. It's more of a feeling....the two on the hat, then another two...immediately after the second hit on the second time you hit the snare. THen throw in the bass....I don't know, I just don't count it.

@BreadMonkey

It very well could be the Mandala Pads. I'm not familiar at all with Mandala. Thanks for the reply.

I don't think danney is playing a polyrythm, but the band is...the bass and guitar are in 6 and he's playing in 5. I also believe he moves the kick part a 16th over every two rounds if that makes sense.

[aegir77]

I think he started using the mandala pads on the 10,000 days album. He had other kinds of pads before and he also knows how to play tabla. I don't know what he used on Disposition/Reflection.. it may be real tabla.. On the 10,000 days album, there's a song callled Right in Two where he plays a tabla solo and I read on a magazine that he recorded it with the mandala pads..

[Zildjian232]

i saw danny carey on aug 13 at the volto show in hollywood at the knitting factory, i stood exactly in front of kit, front stage, probley around 5-7 ft away. ive been listening to tool for years, ive never seen a show but ive seen probley 40,000 bootlegs :) and have all there albums. i had a preconceived idea on how he was going to play. he completley surpassed my wildest expectations. the thing that impressed me the most is his jazz coordination. i knew he studied jazz in college but it never shined through that much in tool songs, but holy crap! it was like watchin kenny arnoff play jazz or someone on that level, i had no clue he was that good. i gained so much respect for him, there really isnt to many rock drummers with that type of coordination. he also plays with so much power and percision, its beyond words. if there is a volto show and your less than 5 hours away then its worth the drive

[Zildjian232]

i saw danny carey on aug 13 at the volto show in hollywood at the knitting factory, i stood exactly in front of kit, front stage, probley around 5-7 ft away. ive been listening to tool for years, ive never seen a show but ive seen probley 40,000 bootlegs :) and have all there albums. i had a preconceived idea on how he was going to play. he completley surpassed my wildest expectations. the thing that impressed me the most is his jazz coordination. i knew he studied jazz in college but it never shined through that much in tool songs, but holy crap! it was like watchin kenny arnoff play jazz or someone on that level, i had no clue he was that good. i gained so much respect for him, there really isnt to many rock drummers with that type of coordination. he also plays with so much power and percision, its beyond words. if there is a volto show and your less than 5 hours away then its worth the drive

[BadMuthrFingr]

Danny Carey, eh?

Kick ass much?

Tool is THE best band.
I was the first person to listen to Tool at my school(Im in 8th grade), and now tons of people love them, I don't know how Danny remembers even 1 of his songs, let alone how to play ALL of them, their all so long....

Danny is, was, and will be my inspiration, hes an amazing drummer, hes got his own religion, and hes famous, what else could you ask for? =)

~BMF

[That Guy]

Danny is, was, and will be my inspiration, hes an amazing drummer, hes got his own religion, and hes famous, what else could you ask for? =)

His autograph.

*202020*

[Zildjian232]

I don't think danney is playing a polyrythm, but the band is...the bass and guitar are in 6 and he's playing in 5. I also believe he moves the kick part a 16th over every two rounds if that makes sense.



well i always figured the bass was in 3( subdivision of 6, so doesnt matter) and i thought danny and adam where playing in 5. the drums and the guitar seem too fit together, the bassline is off. thats what i figure, forgive me if im wrong.

o this is kind of off topic, but i was just listening to check over my statement and i just noticed( even though ive heard the song 4 million times, that there is an echo effect on mayanrds vocals. i feel dumb! now i notice! 5 years later


speaking of lateralus check out my signatrue ha

[Zildjian232]

[QUOTE=Solaris;268307]

On his snare - I think in an interview with Danny’s drum tech he said that he has his snare head tuned really tight. If you notice in some photos he has a spare snare sitting behind his kit just in case he breaks the head on the edge of the snare. I guess playing those paiste snares doesn't help it too much.



speaking of carrying an extra snare, i saw danny carey at a volto show at the knitting factory and he broke his snare head in the first 20 minutes.


if you or anyone doesnt know about volto and live in the LA area you should go to this site ( myspace.com/volto) they play shows at the baked potato and the knitting factory from time to time. its a chance of seeing danny at a small venue. i got up to the front and was onlyh 5-7 ft away from his set, truly an experiance

[BrynnerAgassi]

Saw TOOL at the Staples Center here in LA last year. The performance was really good, his drumming is great.
One thing about TOOL is that they bring the same, if not more, energy to the stage as they do in their albums.
Dannys drumming is great, and to hear the guy live playing all the licks he has done in the TOOL tracks is amazing.

[BadMuthrFingr]

His autograph.

*202020*

Now your thinking...

~BMF

[That Guy]

Now your thinking...

~BMF

Thats what I would do =)

[BadMuthrFingr]

What do you thik about the drumming in Lateralus?

I almost peed my pants whewn I first heard it

~BMF

[aegir77]

amazing drumming on that track....... every part fits perfectly.. i specially like the ending...before the "spiral out" part... it's so rocking and cool...

[That Guy]

What do you thik about the drumming in Lateralus?

I almost peed my pants whewn I first heard it

~BMF

I feel that Lateralus is his best when it comes to drumming. The amount of control he has incorporated with the explosiveness on that album can make you... well, as you said "pee your pants." No matter how many times I hear that album, it doesn't get old. Danny's mind-set seems to be focused on many different things in his music that it affects his drumming in a way makes that his playing "his own." He owns what he does.

He is not just the drummer who keeps the groove, he is the guy that follows the vocals and the guitars as well.. and does it with such precision that if Tool lost Danny... I think it would be time for them to gracefully bow out, cuz I don't think another drummer could fill those shoes. But, that opens up a entirely different subject.. and if they hypothetically had another drummer, the band name should be changed.

Wow.. how did I end up going in that direction? .. lol.

[chopsy]

I know I'm coming late to this party with the ungodly amount of pages this thread contains, so please excuse me if this has been discussed before.

Can anyone comment on Danny's bass drum setup? Looking at various references, sometimes it says he plays two 18x24 drums while his own site says 16x22 and 18x22... and then you have toolshed.down.net that claims 18x22 and 18x24

Obviously he hasn't made his mind up yet, but I'm curious about the method of using two different sized bass drums. And if anyone can clear up a time frame of when he played what... say 22s on aenima and 22/24 on lateralus or something that would be really interesting information.

[TampaDrummer]

Man its been a while since I've been on here. The past year I've got to hang out with Danny Carey when he's toured through Tampa and Orlando and he seems to be the most down to earth guy I know. He knows he is amazing at what he does and he knows that status of his band. Not full of himself, but completely aware. It was kind of surreal hanging out with him knowing that his drumming and his band's music had changed my life a few years prior.

I had read all over the internet that he had done drum corps when he was live in KC but never could find any specifics on that. I asked him to clear that up and he told me that he never did drum corps at all, much rather marched snare in college. I don't know the man well enough to know if he is INSANE, but who cares; the dude shreds.

[Mario]

man, i saw tool live a couple of months ago, and they were playin 46 & 2, and I was just waiting for the drumsolo.... it opens up with those 32nd note triplets, and his sticks are flying behind his freakin ears. HOW DO U GET A STICK HEIGHT LIKE THAT AT THAT SPEED. He was so articulate, some drummers get drowned out in stadiums. Not danny. I love him.

[Javo]

Hey, does any one know what snare drum does danny have? I've ridden about the S-Bronze snare and the jeff ocheltree carbon steel snare. Both from Jeff...
One more question: Did he have the same snare in the early ages, recording undertow? I love that snare drum, but it doesn't sound same as now.

Thanks.

Javo

[FourT6and2]

Hey, does any one know what snare drum does danny have? I've ridden about the S-Bronze snare and the jeff ocheltree carbon steel snare. Both from Jeff...
One more question: Did he have the same snare in the early ages, recording undertow? I love that snare drum, but it doesn't sound same as now.

Thanks.

Javo

Right now, It may be the Paiste snare made by Jeff Ocheltree.

But, at one point he used a 16X6.5" Brady snare made out of Bulloak wood.

He might also have used a Sonor snare to match his Sonor kits (he has at least two or three full kits).

[Javo]

Wow great! another one i hadn't seen. I saw 14x8" Bronze snare, from Jeff, then the Carbon steel 14x6,5" also from jeff. but never this... Any way, are you sure its 16x6" and not 14x6", because thats weird measures, eaven more than 14x8".

Thanks anyway, if anyone else knows more, we'll appreciate.

Javo

[FourT6and2]

Wow great! another one i hadn't seen. I saw 14x8" Bronze snare, from Jeff, then the Carbon steel 14x6,5" also from jeff. but never this... Any way, are you sure its 16x6" and not 14x6", because thats weird measures, eaven more than 14x8".

Thanks anyway, if anyone else knows more, we'll appreciate.

Javo

Whoops, type-o; not 16"

14" x 6.5" Brady Bulloak.

http://www.bradydrums.com.au/danny-carey.html

[jarhat]

This was just posted @ Toolband.com ...

http://207.7.138.58/images/news/danped.jpg

[Solaris]

Yeah I saw that, crazy. the footboard is snapped clean in two, and that isn't an easy thing to do.

It looks pretty beat up, must have been using it for a while.

[deebz]

Jesus is jealous of Danny.

[Mindshadow]

Jesus and the rest of us.



This guy is on a level above anyone who plays at the moment. (Thats a biggy isn't it?) But IMHO its true. No one has the chops that this guy has, alive or dead. Until I here someone with better chops let me know. You can throw out names until the cows come home but the best drummer who has ever graced the planet, I'm saying its Danny Carey fullstop. There would only be about 5 drummers that you could say this about and most of them have passed.

So I'm telling you again, this guy is the best drummer alive, on the planet.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and this is mine.

[deebz]

Jesus and the rest of us.



This guy is on a level above anyone who plays at the moment. (Thats a biggy isn't it?) But IMHO its true. No one has the chops that this guy has, alive or dead. Until I here someone with better chops let me know. You can throw out names until the cows come home but the best drummer who has ever graced the planet, I'm saying its Danny Carey fullstop. There would only be about 5 drummers that you could say this about and most of them have passed.

So I'm telling you again, this guy is the best drummer alive, on the planet.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and this is mine.

100% correct.

When I first heard Tool, I thought to myself "Alright, I don't see what the big deal is about this Carey guy."

Then I REALLY listened to Tool, and attempted (and I mean ATTEMPTED) to play some of their stuff.

Impossible.

This guy is so ridiculous at the drums. SO ridiculous.

Everything about how he plays the drums is absolutely perfect. Each stick hits each drum/cymbal/pad at the absolute PERFECT time.

His 4 way coordination is unbelievable.

I just can't understand how a human being could come up with some of the licks he busts out for Tool.

The breakdown in Eulogy. OH MY GAWWDDD.

The breakdown in Lateralus. OH MY GAWWWWWWWDDDDD. Had me in TEARS the first time I heard it.

Literally every single Tool song has undeniably insane drums.

In my honest opinion, Danny Carey is the greatest rock drummer alive today.

I don't care about his speed. I don't care about the size of his drumset. I don't care about how much money he makes. I don't care about what band he's in (although Tool is my favorite band). I don't care about his life outside of drums. I don't care about his training.

The bottom line is, this guy is the best. Hands down. THE BEST.

[Therma lobsterdore]

Jesus and the rest of us.



This guy is on a level above anyone who plays at the moment. (Thats a biggy isn't it?) But IMHO its true. No one has the chops that this guy has, alive or dead. Until I here someone with better chops let me know. You can throw out names until the cows come home but the best drummer who has ever graced the planet, I'm saying its Danny Carey fullstop. There would only be about 5 drummers that you could say this about and most of them have passed.

So I'm telling you again, this guy is the best drummer alive, on the planet.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and this is mine.

Hehe nice closing line! I do love Danny, he's up there with the best no question about it...but I'd take Jojo, Chambers, Lang, Minnuemen, Donati and some others over him for the best chops and technical prowess, just my opinion though!

[That Guy]

Anyone ever notice how far behind the "Official" site for the band is? How lame is that? The only thing interesting on that site is the "Play Pong" feature that takes your mind off of how lame the site really is.

Oh, how I long for the day another album is released.

[Solaris]

Hehe nice closing line! I do love Danny, he's up there with the best no question about it...but I'd take Jojo, Chambers, Lang, Minnuemen, Donati and some others over him for the best chops and technical prowess, just my opinion though!

I'll give everyone of those guys all the credit they deserve for pushing themselves and their playing to the technical limit of the human body, but there's a different between technique and feel. Technique and chops you can learn by locking yourself in a room for 6 hours a day, 7 days a week untill you can play in your sleep. But feel comes from somewhere else. Carey has a conversation with his playing, he tells you a story. Chambers, Lang, Donati - they play incredible things, but I find it hard to find beauty in their playing. I wouldn't be moved to tears over it. I enjoy it thoroughly, but it's a different kind of drumming to Carey's. there's almost a mechanical precision in it: "look I can play a reverse parradiddle with my feet while my hands play a latin rhythm", yeah great, I'm it took you 6 months to master that, but what does that tell me?

The way I apporach my playing is that technique and chops are a means to an end. They're my drumming vocabulary which I use to express myself.

[MykeyInChains]

The polyrhythm groove at 4:48 of the song Lateralus changed my life.

[Therma lobsterdore]

I'll give everyone of those guys all the credit they deserve for pushing themselves and their playing to the technical limit of the human body, but there's a different between technique and feel. Technique and chops you can learn by locking yourself in a room for 6 hours a day, 7 days a week untill you can play in your sleep. But feel comes from somewhere else. Carey has a conversation with his playing, he tells you a story. Chambers, Lang, Donati - they play incredible things, but I find it hard to find beauty in their playing. I wouldn't be moved to tears over it. I enjoy it thoroughly, but it's a different kind of drumming to Carey's. there's almost a mechanical precision in it: "look I can play a reverse parradiddle with my feet while my hands play a latin rhythm", yeah great, I'm it took you 6 months to master that, but what does that tell me?

The way I apporach my playing is that technique and chops are a means to an end. They're my drumming vocabulary which I use to express myself.

Nicely said, I agree completely...which is why JoJo is my favourite drummer. I actually think that Chambers and Donait have a lot of feel in their playing, but Lang does sound a bit too robotic.

I started learning sober the other day, can't quite get my left foot doing the hi-hat part in the main beat but I'm nearly there!

[FunkItUp]

Yea. Danny Carey has definitely been one of my biggest influences. I try to pull a lot of things out of his style, especially his polyrhythms. But just everything he plays, I love. His combination of feel, technical ability and sense of sound and rhythm make for my favorite sound in progressive rock today, no question. I can't wait until he comes to town. I really want to see him live.

[Breadmonkey]

Hi guys,

Does anyone know the overheads that are used to mic Danny's kit in the Jeff Ocheltree video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRR9iHdG__4


would be interested to try the mic'ing technique but want to make sure I have gear that would approach the quality of that used in the video. any help would much appreciated. cheers

[thebrok2]

Danny Carey was the reason I started drumming. The more and more I listen to him the more things I pick up that I missed the time before. This guy just blows me away. They have not had a new album in a few years but my jaw still drops when I listen to him.

[Crusto 62]

I saw Tool live a few years ago and they were amazing. They were like a huge well oiled machine. Danny Carey is a FREAK!!! He is relentess he doesn't stop the whole show. He must be so fit. The way he moved around his kit was effortless and does he pound those drums. He was born to play drums for Tool. He just blew me away.

[Roly]

The Aeneid, The Odyssey, The Upanishads, Plato, Plotinus, The Pythagorean Sourcebook and Library and Marcus Aurelius.

Danny has used sacred reverb. Has used Cymbal phase. Tools behind the scenes studies on Cymatics, Fractals and the Physical, theoretical, physiological, acoustic, compositional and analytical relationships between mathematics and music are unfolded and explored with focus on tuning and temperament as well as interlocking and counter rhythmic complexities, rhythmic-code-progression.

The complex and intentional relationships embedded within the notational progressions are also one of the greatest qualities in a Tool song.

Indeed, the best way to listen to tool is naked, mentally and physically. ;) ENTER LIVE PUSHIT

Listen as with Neti Neti, allow the music to speak directly with the soul as it were.

These are my thoughts, not axiom ;D

[Aggressivec]

Danny is my favorite drummer of all time. His style and power is unbelievable.

[beached_whale]

check out some of the tool cover's from this guy on youtube, tbartels007 (http://www.youtube.com/user/tbartels007). He's amazing! Quite possibly the best drummer on youtube...

[Drumsword]

check out some of the tool cover's from this guy on youtube, tbartels007 (http://www.youtube.com/user/tbartels007). He's amazing! Quite possibly the best drummer on youtube...

Oh my word that guy is Amazing..........is a shame guys like that are not household names.

[CareyCopelandCameron]

danny carey=best drummer of the universe.

[kwolf68]

Danny Carey is a masterful drummer, but that's all I have positive to say about this band...their music...for being so-called heavy and intricite simply is the most boring metal music ive ever heard.

I have SO TRIED to get into Tool...boy have I...but it's just boring music to me.

[sween]

That T Bartles guy certainly has it nailed down. It takes some patience to sit and learn those tool songs the whole way through. Great job!

[That Guy]

Anyone ever notice how far behind the "Official" site for the band is? How lame is that? The only thing interesting on that site is the "Play Pong" feature that takes your mind off of how lame the site really is.

Oh, how I long for the day another album is released.

I'm quoting myself here cuz I just revisited thier site and they haven't even added the new album which is nearly 3 years old to the site yet. Such a shame.

[Aggressivec]

I am excited for Danny's signature snare to come out! Sonor has NOT given ANY info about it, but I really hope its 14x8 and very huge sounding. I always have loved the way his snare sounded on Aenima and Lateralus turned off. Those records are absolutely stunning. "Ticks and Leeches" is literally the best drum song I have ever heard. Anyone who can deliver Bonham like power with Steve Gadd like tecnique is fine by my book! Luckily, next time Tool releases an album, I'll be able to drive and see them lol! Was any one else really dissapointed w/ 10000 days? I dunno if it was just me, but it sucked.

[That Guy]

Was any one else really dissapointed w/ 10000 days? I dunno if it was just me, but it sucked.

I don't think it sucked but I was expecting much more from it. Trying to follow up on the albums Aenima and Lateralus sets the expectations really high. I sure as hell expected them to ratchet the bar up because they always have in the past. It's a solid record that is lacking in solid song foundations.

[Aggressivec]

I don't think it sucked but I was expecting much more from it. Trying to follow up on the albums Aenima and Lateralus sets the expectations really high. I sure as hell expected them to ratchet the bar up because they always have in the past. It's a solid record that is lacking in solid song foundations.


LOL try topping Lateralus! I bet they were under tremendous pressure. I think all the songs were boring, not well written, etc.

[That Guy]

LOL try topping Lateralus! I bet they were under tremendous pressure. I think all the songs were boring, not well written, etc.

Yes, topping Lateralus would have been something. I guess thats why I wasn't too upset when Tool bombed the last record. Lateralus will hold much weight for many years to come.

I do share you feelings to a degree.

[kwolf68]

"Ticks and Leeches" is literally the best drum song I have ever heard.


I can't disagree with this, one sick azz song. Although my favorite song on that album is The Grudge. And pretty slick drumming on that one too.

[TenPastTen]

LOL try topping Lateralus! I bet they were under tremendous pressure. I think all the songs were boring, not well written, etc.

I don't think Tool feels pressure like other artists. I don't get the impression they make music for anyone but themselves. Wings For Marie/10,000 Days is an extremely personal song that took quite a lot of listening by me to actually enjoy it.

I disagree about the well-written analysis, but I dig you on the fact that I don't find myself being compelled to listen to the entire album (which is in contrast to all the others). There are 3, count 'em 3 songs that I want to hear over and again off 10k Days: Vicarious, Jambi, and Right In Two, the rest all sound like Caesaro Summability...;-)



By the way, Chuck Norris wears Danny Carey pajamas.


..

[FunkItUp]

Honestly, I enjoyed 10,000 Days. It definitely wasn't their best, but much of it put me into an induced meditation that was pretty cool. It's no Lateralus, but then again, Lateralus is a masterpiece.

[CaptainSticks]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_QQPnpkuzw

just found this vid of danny and Kirk Covington doing a duet. awesome, but the camera angle jumping around kinda got annoying

[Multiverse]

First off, I agree wholeheartedly with the consensus here that Danny Carey really has it all: groove, feel, chops, power, independence, etc, and clearly deserves his success. However I must disagree with the trend in analysis of 10000 Days. I listen to this album more than any of their others, and Tool is by far my favorite band. At first, I was honestly NOT impressed at all with this album, but like any creative and challenging work, YOU have to put work into it as well to reap the hidden rewards. I had to listen to some of the songs a ridiculous amount of times to really get the feeling they were trying to convey - and that is what tool is all about. If you are just looking for a metal song, of course it will be boring, or weird, because they don't play metal music! Their art exists in a liminal zone independent of superficial genre classification because it is not just about the sound, but the feel generated by their emotional states and a scientific understanding of cymatic metaphysics, manifest acoustically as music.

I totally understand the sentiment though about not liking some tool material, even as a huge fan. I'm still not too keen on a lot of Undertow, although I am finally breaking into it to some extent, but a lot of it just still doesn't do it for me. However I credit that to a lack of effort on my part to really deeply get into the music, not any fault of the band. That is something peculiar about Tool, that a lot of their music is a hard nut to crack, but if you can do it, and change your mind into a receiver for what's really going on in their music, especially the drums, it's amazing.

[siva]

This guy is on a level above anyone who plays at the moment.

I think he is at the top level, but not above. Guys like Antonio Sanchez and Jojo Mayer have more technical skills.

I must disagree with the trend in analysis of 10000 Days.

I agree, it's my favourite Tool album!

[kwolf68]

Jojo Mayer have more technical skills.



Yea but Jojo isn't 'normal.' :)

[budtkr]

IT CAN BE DONE GUYS!!!!
HERE ARE SOME VIDS OF ME DOING IT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9gddWHBDqE
there are about 6 songs up!
enjoy

[Tool]

this guy is the greatest for me. The way he plays and uses his technique and how he has improved sice the first album of tool to the last. And how he plays in the band Volto! ( seen them live,, wow)
His playing is based a lot on the feelin, a more emotional way of drumming. He can take his mind to a unique place and he can intepret his ideas and thoughts to us, as well as he can cause a reaction on every one of us drummers or musicians.
How his drumset is placed percectly with a mathematician, followin the "circle theory" mixed with the "golden proportion" mixed with a theory called " the theory of the equator".
He has no boundaries, he is really creative .
He has been a great inspiration, at least for me.
post your thoughts on this fella

http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Danny_Carey.html

Volto? as big of a Danny Carey fan as i am, ive never heard of this group! ill be sure to check them out

Danny Carey is the reason why i drum, plain and simple

some of my favorite TOOL tracks of his drumming are 4°, Eulogy, 46 & 2, Jimmy, every track on lateralus, wings for marie Part I, 10,000 days Part II, rosetta stoned, intension, and right in two, which is the sickest track in muical existence

[Tool]

oh yeah, to all the ppl saying that the album 10,000 Days was bad, please tell me why wings for marie Part I, 10,000 days Part II, rosetta stoned, intension, and right in two are bad songs

intension into right in two is just about as good as music gets

[Bonzo_88]

Yeah Danny Carey is one hell of a drummer. So much power, creativity, and feel. He's just a cool guy too, always seems so calm. There's a good page at http://www.total-drums.com/danny-carey.html with pics and vids. Wonder when Tools next album will be out...

10,000 days was 2 years and a bit ago? If they carry on with th 5 year gap thing, they should be relasing a new one in about 3 years.

[Tangled]

How his drumset is placed percectly with a mathematician, followin the "circle theory" mixed with the "golden proportion" mixed with a theory called " the theory of the equator".

can anyone explain this a bit?

[andSometimesY]

To previous poster: I can't explain it. I think it might just be a bunch of bull. Tool is my favorite band and I have gotten used to the fact that they have a very dry sense of humor. Their music is the only thing about them that I ever take seriously.

I love Danny Carey's playing. I have recently started to learn Tool songs on my own and they are some of the most enjoyable songs to play ever! There are a lot of intricacies that I never noticed until actually playing the songs. So far I have learned Parabola, Prison Sex, Sweat, the polyrhythm in Eulogy, the chorus beat and polyrhythm of Lateralus, and the solo of 46 and 2. I need to get back to learning full songs rather than just pieces, though.

[Pedey]

can anyone explain this a bit?


His kit is arranged according to old masonic temple layouts and a bit of other occult jumbo involved, none of what the other feller said.

[Toby_Jackson]

Understand that the guys in Tool are deep -seekers if you will. Tool fans get stereotyped for raving about this stuff, but many of their songs are built on fundamental patterns that resemble ancient attempts at unlocking the secrets of the universe more than modern rock and roll.

So read as deep into as you want, and as far as I know Tool profess no secret knowledge that they wish to impart, other there's more to life than meets the eye so think for yourself.

But yeah, there's a lot of weird stuff going on with that band, dig it.

[NewBeatsGroove]

oh yeah, to all the ppl saying that the album 10,000 Days was bad, please tell me why wings for marie Part I, 10,000 days Part II, rosetta stoned, intension, and right in two are bad songs

intension into right in two is just about as good as music gets

there is such thing as a bad tool album.

they are on tour again this summer!! i got tickets for atl

[Buddy9832]

Danny Carey I believe is a very talented drummer. He shows mastery of drumming in odd time sigs and the use of his other musical backgrounds into his kit drumming. Now saying this even though I believe he's a very talented drummer, he doesn't necessarily impress me.

As stated before what I find interesting from his drumming is as others stated, how he sets up his drum set in the formation geoocult formations and patterns. And how he his drumming style is played in a means to reach harmony with universe (or however he actually states it).

What I'm trying to say is that I do believe he is a very talented drummer, but I believe Tool as a whole is more of a band based on showman ship than musical prowess.

[Toby_Jackson]

I believe Tool as a whole is more of a band based on showman ship than musical prowess.

Man, can't a band just have something good to say and be original - when has any good band been BASED on musical prowess? Bands like that engage in musical masturbation, they don't make ART.

You probably hate punk rock and Bob Dylan's singing.

[ace76543]

everyone spews that whole "oh his kit is set up to this masonic temple's dimensions" or whatever, but does anyone understand what that actually means? i think it's hilarious that tool's whole thing is "think for yourself", and that's the last thing that most of their fans do. they lie to their fans so much and they just eat it up. genius on their part, but it's pretty sad for everyone else. it's kind of weird that old masonic temple have the exact dimensions needed to set up an regular drumset. there's nothing different about the way he sets his drumset up than anyone else. has anyone ever noticed that? the most ridiculous thing though is when they said that they filled the entire studio with helium to make the drums cut through better. i guess setting up your drumset to old masonic temple dimensions brings out the old masonic black magical powers of being able to not die from inhaling too much helium too. you know how they make the drums cut through better? two letters: E Q


the band started as a joke, and they continued that purpose in their own way for all these years, i wish i could make people believe things they way they can.

[bpumpkin]

Danny Carey is a ridiculously good drummer and makes up one-third of my holy trinity of drummers. (Neil Peart and Dave Grohl are the other two in case you were wondering)

[Jonesy]

the band started as a joke, and they continued that purpose in their own way for all these years, i wish i could make people believe things they way they can.

I really don't know what this is supposed to mean.

[NewBeatsGroove]

he basically is saying danny carey is his hero.

[ace76543]

I really don't know what this is supposed to mean.

it means that they're sitting on their throne laughing their asses off at everyone who hangs off their every word.

he basically is saying danny carey is his hero.

this too

[gibsonrock53]

To me Danny Carey isn't that great. He is good, but to me he is way overrated. I haven't found anything special about him.

[Elenayuan]

First off, I agree wholeheartedly with the consensus here that Danny Carey really has it all: groove, feel, chops, power, independence, etc, and clearly deserves his success. However I must disagree with the trend in analysis of 10000 Days. I listen to this album more than any of their others, and Tool is by far my favorite band. At first, I was honestly NOT impressed at all with this album, but like any creative and challenging work, YOU have to put work into it as well to reap the hidden rewards. I had to listen to some of the songs a ridiculous amount of times to really get the feeling they were trying to convey - and that is what tool is all about. If you are just looking for a metal song, of course it will be boring, or weird, because they don't play metal music! Their art exists in a liminal zone independent of superficial genre classification because it is not just about the sound, but the feel generated by their emotional states and a scientific understanding of cymatic metaphysics, manifest acoustically as music.

I totally understand the sentiment though about not liking some tool material, even as a huge fan. I'm still not too keen on a lot of Undertow, although I am finally breaking into it to some extent, but a lot of it just still doesn't do it for me. However I credit that to a lack of effort on my part to really deeply get into the music, not any fault of the band. That is something peculiar about Tool, that a lot of their music is a hard nut to crack, but if you can do it, and change your mind into a receiver for what's really going on in their music, especially the drums, it's amazing.

100% with you man, Tool's music is very very personal, as MJK has said he regretted writing songs like "Prison Sex" and "Wings", especially "Wings/10000 days" because it's a extremely hard song to perform and a tragic if it falls apart, again, very personal.
I think no matter what kind of music they come up with next time, I will always respect them as artists and seeing them live is a complete privilege.

Danny and MJK hosted ‘Rage’ couple years ago, if you haven’t seen it, check it out, it’s pretty funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy0Dhj7dwYg

Danny, you inspire all of us!

[gibsonrock53]

To me Danny Carey isn't that great. He is good, but to me he is way overrated. I haven't found anything special about him.
Okay never mind, I just saw this video of him and he deserves to be up in the top 30 at least! I don't think he is up there with Keith Moon or Neil Peart, but he is great!

[Jonesy]

Okay never mind, I just saw this video of him and he deserves to be up in the top 30 at least! I don't think he is up there with Keith Moon or Neil Peart, but he is great!

Which video did you see?

And, listen to "Ticks and Leeches" if you get a chance. That song's a pretty good summary of what Danny Carey is capable of.

[andSometimesY]

Yeah, Ticks and Leeches is pretty tough, but I think that Rosetta Stoned takes the cake. The time signature switches are something like 8/8, 5/4, 8/8, 5/4, 8/8, 10/4, 9/8, 6/8, 11/4, 12/8, 15/8, 12/8, 5/4, 3/8, 6/8, 3/8, 5/4. I would love to see a transcription of this song. And to the guy who isn't impressed by Danny's stuff: Drummers like Keith Moon may be more flashy than Carey, but the stuff that Danny is playing is actually a lot more complicated. Yes, Neil Peart plays some complicated stuff too, but even his playing is a bit more simple than Carey's.

[bilkay]

I think Danny Carey is a very talented and innovative drummer, and I think those things really came together on Lateralus and 10,000 Days. For me, his contributions to "progressive rock" are similar to Bill Bruford's (Yes, King Crimson) and Phil Collins' (Peter Gabriel Era Genesis) contributions. I also think Gavin Harrison (Porcupine Tree) is creating some very interesting "progressive rock" drumming.

[Grady]

I love this guys drumming style, it's a shame that Tool broke up for Puscyfer, Danny Carey was an inspirational drummer.

[RollingStone000]

I love this guys drumming style, it's a shame that Tool broke up for Puscyfer, Danny Carey was an inspirational drummer.

They didn't break up. Maynard's was doing one of his many side projects. All of the members of Tool have side projects. I believe they're "working on" new stuff at the moment (when Keenan's not preoccupied being a damn wine connoisseur) . However I'm not entirely sure what "working on" might mean.

[Monica McCoy]

There's a little jazz joint in Studio City called The Baked Potato.; VOLTO! played there last night and I stood 10 feet from the kit on the right side of the stage. It was so awesome! They requested no photography, otherwise I'd have posted pics.

The lead singer plays keys and drums so some of the songs had two kits going. The band is so tight and technically proficient. Not a single wasted note the whole set.

[johnzguitar]

http://www.voltoband.com/flyer011410s.jpg

NAMM-bo-ree PARTY 2010 with VOLTO!!!!

Thursday Jan 14th '10 @ the baked potato in studio city, ca.

Danny Carey - drums
Kirk Covington - vox/keys/perc
Lance Morrison - bass
John Ziegler - guitar

january in los angeles means that once again it's time for the NAMM convention! music is everyhwere, and it's the perfect time to get the party started @ the historic baked potato...are we're gonna fire it up!
we'll also have the brand new t-shirts available too(fly the VOLTO! flag down on the convention floor)!
cheers and good times to y'all!

****CALL THE CLUB @ (818) 980-1615 after 6pm PST to reserve your seats asap! it will sell out, and ya don't wanna miss this! YEAH!****

there's more info via facebook...
http://www.facebook.com/pages/VOLTO/88717105783

glorious new decade and thanx!

[Dynath]

They didn't break up. Maynard's was doing one of his many side projects. All of the members of Tool have side projects. I believe they're "working on" new stuff at the moment (when Keenan's not preoccupied being a damn wine connoisseur) . However I'm not entirely sure what "working on" might mean.

Tool is working on new stuff they said they should be releasing sometime in 2010 I'm guessing they will give us a demo by June for sure and the actual album in November or so.

[RMS]

I think I might own one of Danny Carey's old drum sets.
It's a 70's Pearl clear acrylic 5-piece set. I picked it up used from a guy, and went to Explorer's Percussion here in KC to buy heads for it. Strangely enough, the guy I bought it from was there installing a security system. Wes, the owner of Explorer's, said he thought I had one of Danny's kits...
Anyways, it's probably not true, but it would be cool to actually verify. It's a nice kit and I'm playing it right now, and won't be interested in selling it for a while. Diameters are 13" and 14" mounted toms on a 20" bass drum, 16" floor tom, with a matching acrylic 5x14" snare.

[RollingStone000]

Don't know if anyone's seen this, but it's Danny Carey (with Volto) and Brann Dailor at the Guitar Center Drum off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrSviF02lvo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU7OdU6XSns

[Travis22]

Tool is working on new stuff they said they should be releasing sometime in 2010 I'm guessing they will give us a demo by June for sure and the actual album in November or so.

Indeed...went to the explorer percussion drum clinic last year that danny carey did with aloke and bozzio. When getting his autograph I asked him the time old question of "when is the next Tool album?" which he laughed and said "we are going to start writing and recording at the beginning of the year." Can't wait to see what they come up with...every album has just been so unique and kick@$$ in it's own way.

[chathamight]

Don't know if anyone's seen this, but it's Danny Carey (with Volto) and Brann Dailor at the Guitar Center Drum off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrSviF02lvo
the user comments below the clip are classic!

[Rabsahotti]

im hoping this is the right area to post this, but here we go anyway. i am currently writing a musicology essay for my degree, and am currently analyzing Lateralus by Tool. anyway it is far more complex than i imagined (stupid of me to imagine it wouldnt be i know), one of the key factors i am discussing is the use of the Fibonacci Sequence in different areas of the song.

When looking at the lyrics in the verses, the amount of syllables in each section corresponds to the sequence. In the first verse the syllables are as follows, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 5, 3, 13, 8, 5, 3. The missing numbers are immediately apparent, however these are redeemed in the second verse, where the syllables read, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 5, 3, 2, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 8, 5, 3, which completes the sequence.

At this point i would like to appolgyse to anyone who is confused, it weird stuff. Anyway i have heard rumors that Danny Carey used the Fibonacci Spiral concept in order to form his drum lines for this song, however i have no idea how or where, or even if it is true haha. i was just wondering if anyone on this forum had any idea, or maybe knew if there was notation for the track knocking round anywhere.

thanks a lot


rab

[Fuo]

im hoping this is the right area to post this, but here we go anyway. i am currently writing a musicology essay for my degree, and am currently analyzing Lateralus by Tool. anyway it is far more complex than i imagined (stupid of me to imagine it wouldnt be i know), one of the key factors i am discussing is the use of the Fibonacci Sequence in different areas of the song.

When looking at the lyrics in the verses, the amount of syllables in each section corresponds to the sequence. In the first verse the syllables are as follows, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 5, 3, 13, 8, 5, 3. The missing numbers are immediately apparent, however these are redeemed in the second verse, where the syllables read, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 5, 3, 2, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 8, 5, 3, which completes the sequence.

At this point i would like to appolgyse to anyone who is confused, it weird stuff. Anyway i have heard rumors that Danny Carey used the Fibonacci Spiral concept in order to form his drum lines for this song, however i have no idea how or where, or even if it is true haha. i was just wondering if anyone on this forum had any idea, or maybe knew if there was notation for the track knocking round anywhere.

thanks a lot


rab

I didn't read it all yet, but:
http://www.bofe.org/overthinking.htm

nevermind, this just says that the drum part repeats the sequence through 13. it doesn't say HOW.

[Rabsahotti]

I didn't read it all yet, but:
http://www.bofe.org/overthinking.htm

nevermind, this just says that the drum part repeats the sequence through 13. it doesn't say HOW.

cheers mate, im just gonna touch on it in the essay ive decided, ive got more than enough info on other aspects of the song, just as a drummer i prefer to focus on the drumming side of things :P, thanks a lot though that link will help me with other parts

[lankyman]

did you listen to S excerpt live on www.myspace.com/volto ?, maaan.
can't wait to listen to the new tool album, i hear danny has lots of surprises for us

Volto's 'S exert' is their interpretation of Billy Cobham's 'Stratus' (I'm assuming that's what the S stands for). It's a great cover too. Well done Danny.

[Fuo]

Anyone have any information on the kit he's using on the current tour? Looks weird, like he went to roto toms, or epads (I know he always had some epads, but i don't see rack toms anymore).

http://207.7.138.58/images/news/DANREDROCK1.jpg

[mattwalker_21]

Anyone have any information on the kit he's using on the current tour? Looks weird, like he went to roto toms, or epads (I know he always had some epads, but i don't see rack toms anymore).

http://207.7.138.58/images/news/DANREDROCK1.jpg

I saw them play in Vancouver on Friday. He's using two roto-toms for his rack toms (as you can see in that photo), which he's been doing for a little while now. For bass drums, he's using those Paiste ones and for floors, it looks like he's usingg a regular wood floor tom (perhaps from his 10000 Days kit) for his first floor and then an acrylic gong bass drum for his second floor tom.

Search for videos from this tour on YouTube and you'll be able to get a better look. There are some pretty good HD ones that other people have uploaded (check VancouverJu ly 9).

[andSometimesY]

I saw them in St. Charles, MO and he was definitely using roto-toms. He did, however have 2 normal floor toms. I thought they were the Paiste ones but the previous post makes me wonder. The kit sounded great, though. And though I don't even have to say it, Danny played fabulously and IMO, better than ever.

[mattwalker_21]

I saw them in St. Charles, MO and he was definitely using roto-toms. He did, however have 2 normal floor toms. I thought they were the Paiste ones but the previous post makes me wonder. The kit sounded great, though. And though I don't even have to say it, Danny played fabulously and IMO, better than ever.

Oh, definitely; Danny's playing and sound was absolutely phenomenal! Here's a short video someone took of the Vancouver gig that you can sort of see what he's using. The first few seconds are dark for whatever reason. He's also uploaded a bunch of other good videos from this show, if you're interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pU7d2LKIlM&feature=channel

[Fuo]

Thanks. They sure don't sound like roto-toms. Damn, it just never gets old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHr6AShjCnU&feature=channel

[Travis22]

Toolband.com has a new pic of him up from the RedRocks show. You can clearly see his entire kit.

[Fuo]

Toolband.com has a new pic of him up from the RedRocks show. You can clearly see his entire kit.

Yea. That's the picture I posted above and what sparked my original question.

[Travis22]

Haha, my bad...for some reason there wasn't any picture that came up when i was reading the thread...sorry for that.

[andSometimesY]

Sorry to change the subject, but I would like to hear from others who have seen Tool this tour. Wovenhand was the band that opened when I saw them. They were a very unique band and their drummer was solid. When Tool played Lateralus, Danny and Wovenhand's drummer did a drum duet just as expected. Wovenhand's drummer didn't have a clue what to do though! Danny was playing such complex rhythms that it might as well have been free time, so I don't blame him. When Mastodon and Big Business opened for them, both of those drummers held their own with Danny. My question is, has anyone seen Tool with Rajas or Dalek this tour? I just want to know how those drummers held up in the Lateralus solo/duet.

[Fuo]

Sorry to change the subject, but I would like to hear from others who have seen Tool this tour. Wovenhand was the band that opened when I saw them. They were a very unique band and their drummer was solid. When Tool played Lateralus, Danny and Wovenhand's drummer did a drum duet just as expected. Wovenhand's drummer didn't have a clue what to do though! Danny was playing such complex rhythms that it might as well have been free time, so I don't blame him. When Mastodon and Big Business opened for them, both of those drummers held their own with Danny. My question is, has anyone seen Tool with Rajas or Dalek this tour? I just want to know how those drummers held up in the Lateralus solo/duet.

I wish! They played no where near Baltimore this time :(
I haven't seen them since the 10k Days tour ('06 I think).

[mattwalker_21]

The guy from Rajas played well with Danny. He built things up well and had an pretty even conversation with him, which is what you should expect from a good drum duet. Of course though, it's always "stacked" in Danny's favour since the sound guy turns his mics up at least twice that of the guest drummer.

[andSometimesY]

I agree, it is always stacked in Danny's favor. That's kind of to be expected, though, I guess, since it is a Tool show.

[p-funk]

Man, long time lurker on this site but I've never posted. I splurged and went to 3 Tool shows in the last week, San Diego, Las Vegas and last night in Los Angeles.
I gotta say, the drum battle during Lateralus was EPIC..EPIC!!!
Easily the best version I've ever seen and I've seen Tool atleast 15 times and also seen probably 5 different drummers play with Danny. I gotta say, that guy Gino Barboni from the opening band Rajas played better with him that any of the other cats I've seen.
You could tell Danny was really digging it. Of course, whenever Gino would lay down something great, Danny would just blow out some insane lick to show him who's boss.
But wow...Incredible.
Check out two of the clips I found on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiMMDpj52xU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnkZv_vWR5E


You can't tell by the audio, but the fast double bass runs both guys were doing towards the end of the solo sounded so f'n huge in each venue through the subs, it was insane. I agree with the other poster though that they don't have the guest drummers levels up to Danny's levels. But then again, they set up the guest drummers kit in about 45 seconds, literally, and they don't use overhead mics. It was the loudest of all last night, at Nokia Center, giving Gino a bit more level than usual. I hope someone out there recorded last nights performance, as it was maybe my favorite of the 3 nights I witnessed. At one point Danny just stopped and started laughing. Amazing stuff.
I'm not sure who Gino even is, I've never head of him before, but I gotta give him props, the mans got talent.
Last night Maynard the singer was taunting him during the solo to hurry up, holding up a XXX Porno classifieds, saying, "speed it up so me and you can go get some hookers".
Also Maynard would mess with Danny and the guest drummers, each night rating their performance with score cards and bizarre quotes.
Last night he gave Gino a 9 and Danny a 6, then held a sign over Gino's set that said "WTF" and one over Danny's that said "!??!"
I gotta say, there's no better dream of mine then to someday sit down and play a solo with Danny Carey. No matter how daunting that might be....wow
So inspirational.

[mattwalker_21]

Haha, that's awesome! At the show I saw in Vancouver, Maynard was saying things like "OK, that's even duelling drum faggotry" and that Gino was the runner-up for the Make-A-Wish Foundation.

Who are the other drummers you've seen play a duet with Danny?

[andSometimesY]

Haha, yeah when I saw them Maynard said to Wovenhand's drummer after Lateralus, "Thanks for occupying that space" and gave Danny a 9.

[Fuo]

I love Maynard's antics. I saw them on the 10k Days tour the night that Paris Hilton got arrested (or was it Brittany Spears?). He dedicated Stinkfist to her and made fisting motions throughout the song.

Melt Banana was the opening act/danny duel.

[p-funk]

I got to see Danny solo with Cody from Big Business, great guy with power and heart but not as technical a drummer. Sebastian from Trans Am did a pretty good job as well, he had faster hands than Cody, it was an interesting match up with Danny.
Ashton from Tweakbird was interesting, but seemed to play the same 3 fills over and over. A good drummer within his bands songs, but he didn't strike me as a soloist. Also Frank Ferrer from guns and roses sat in, but either he couldn't hear the band in his monitors, or he plays out of time. He seemed lost, a few decent fills, but nothing to write home about.
Live I just seemed to dig Gino's style overall, and his feet definitely kept up with Danny throughout. His hands seemed to take a back seat to Danny's a bit, but he definitely showed he has some pretty decent chops.
What a great set of shows.

[Drummin_Dan]

Just noticing the roto toms when I was watching the video clips. Those things have got to be triggered.

[jamest]

Yeah I think Danny does use triggers on those. Great sound though right?!
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[toddy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcEW1no38KU

[Jerome Lachaud]

Hey there,

In the FAQ of his web site, Danny recommends the following book:
"Advanced Techniques for the Modern Drummer" by Jim Chapin
"Four Way Coordination" by Elliot Fine and Marvin Dahlgren
"New Breed" by Gary Chester

I was wondering anyone knew one of these and had any thoughts to share about it.

[toddy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfwhSuyumz4&feature=related

all those books are great man, i have them and found them useful, especially new breed

[kimono]

there's a little more video of the rototoms in this clip from the Guitar Center Drum Off performance

http://youtu.be/mrSviF02lvo

[LC20]

Danny Carey is AMAZING! Aside from being hugely skilled in technique and being very creative, he makes Tool sound very different from anything else.

I can't help but feel that without Carey, Tool would just be another dreary alternative metal band, because of him they sound truly unique.