Your Playing section

[Pollyanna]

Obviously I like this forum a lot (ie. too much) but there's one change I'd like to see. Given that, in the end, it's about the music, I'd like to see these changes to the forum format:

1. Your Playing to be its own major section along with General discussion, Drummers, Drum Technique etc. After all, the playing is what matters most so it makes sense to me to give it priority.

2. To break it up into three subsections:

a. Drum Covers
b. Band recordings
c. Jams

Sometimes I find it's a shame to see fabulous recordings - especially those who are top players and/or posting their bands' new albums - slip down the list and into obscurity under a wave of drum covers. Don't get me wrong, I see the logic and value of drum covers but they are less valuable than music played by musicians and with proper balance between instruments. When I see it happening it makes me feel like bumping the band/album threads so people get to hear them.

I don't know how hard this would be to do or how flexible the forum template is.

How do others feel about this?

[keep it simple]

If it's possible Pol, I agree. I would add solos to section 3, so jams/solos. I also think the Your Place section has enough interest in it's own right, but I'd like that arranged differently too. Introduce yourself, your gear, & your pictures as the main subsections. Good call IMO.

[razorx]

I think that it would be a good idea if possible. I don't mind watching people playing. I just hate sifting through it all to find something that I like.

[Cameo]

If it's possible to do (which it is), I agree!

[Thaard]

It will cause too much confusion. People are having a hard time finding the "my playing" section as it is. What you could do is make thread-tags that say "drum cover", "Solo" and "original composition/band". Maybe in the form of small pictures or something..
Or you could enforce descriptive thread-titles.

[Pass.of.E.r.a.]

Great idea Pol!

But Thaard, unless I'm misunderstanding what Pollyanna is saying, wouldn't this change make it far easier to find the "my playing" thread?

-Jonathan

[Thaard]

Great idea Pol!

But Thaard, unless I'm misunderstanding what Pollyanna is saying, wouldn't this change make it far easier to find the "my playing" thread?

-Jonathan

Ah, crud! Read too fast, sorry!
Well, it being a main thingy like general and such is a great idea!

[Pollyanna]

Thanks Andy. I forgot about solos lol

"Solos & jams" it is.

[Ekim]

Great idea.

I don't get the whole drum cover thing for the most part either.

[keep it simple]

Great idea.

I don't get the whole drum cover thing for the most part either.There's no suggestion of downrating drum covers. They have value. It's more about celebrating the Your Playing section as a subject of equal merit to the main menu sections, then providing distinction such that the less numerous threads aren't instantly relegated by the more proliferant threads.

[daredrummer]

Great idea.

Would just playing some self written music (but not really a solo) fall under jams?

[GRUNTERSDAD]

Good idea. But how about, Solos, Jams, and Home Brew for the tidbits of small rudiment type explanations and self written things

[Pollyanna]

Great idea.

Would just playing some self written music (but not really a solo) fall under jams?

That's one of those grey areas. I guess it could fit under "solo" since it's done by one person, or it could fit under the band category as a one-person band.


Good idea. But how about, Solos, Jams, and Home Brew for the tidbits of small rudiment type explanations and self written things

More grey areas ... Home Brew might be confusing. After all, some people have enough trouble given all the links to one's own playing and gear questions in General Discussion. I think Instruction videos would fit pretty well in the Technique area.


I'm not sure any of this can happen because of the programming costs and Bernhard not having a bottomless pit of money (or he'd be able to afford more trips sunbaking on the Swiss coast).

To Berhnard: If you ever decide to redesign, what do you think of this option?

[DogBreath]

If we ever redesign this forum? Sure.

Will we ever redesign this forum? Not likely.

Notice there is no "What changes would you like to see?" section. Notice that this section is called DrummerWorld Site News. That's what it's for.

(insert illegal smiley here)

[DrumEatDrum]

Great concept Polly.

As we discussed in another thread, I think many people just don't go to the Your Playing Section because it's full of drum covers posted by people who never otherwise post (i.e. drive-by-posting) and the whole section ends up suffering from general dis-interest.

[Pollyanna]

If we ever redesign this forum? Sure.

Will we ever redesign this forum? Not likely.

Notice there is no "What changes would you like to see?" section. Notice that this section is called DrummerWorld Site News. That's what it's for.

(insert illegal smiley here)

I formally consider myself slapped down (illegal) :)

I figured the costs and trouble would make it unlikely that the site would be redesigned but it's just something I felt would be great for the forum.

DED, agree about the drive-bys and drum covers.

[wsabol]

I also agree that this would be an excellent idea. It makes sense to have the subcategories under Drum Gear, but having an important section like "Your Playing" as a subcategory of something is not the best way to go about it.

Good idea. But how about, Solos, Jams, and Home Brew for the tidbits of small rudiment type explanations and self written things

I feel the "Home Brew-rudiments" would best placed in the existing "Drum Technique" Section... and "Home Brew-self writings" is pretty much the same as solos/jams in my mind.

But yea, good idea. I hope the admins will consider it.

[ahector]

I understand that you guys don't solicit suggestions for the forum, but now that it's been brought up, I'd like to, respectfully, show my support for moving "your playing" out from underneath another section.

[keep it simple]

I understand that you guys don't solicit suggestions for the forum, but now that it's been brought up, I'd like to, respectfully, show my support for moving "your playing" out from underneath another section.+ 1 on that from me too. I remember the drum gear section being expanded into a greater number of subsections. Great move, made sense, & I don't remember that being the subject of a change suggestion thread.

Bernhard, Dogbreath, nobody's trying to steer the ship here, just an enthusiastic bunch of forum members respectfully making a suggestion. We're all super grateful for the work put in by you, & recognise it's your show, & we're invited guests.

[Numberless]

I would love to have the Your Playing section expanded, it's my favorite area of the forum, I really look forward to seeing the members showing their stuff, however I agree that it is flooded by way too much 1 post members that don't bring anything else to the forum.

[DrumEatDrum]

I understand that you guys don't solicit suggestions for the forum, but now that it's been brought up, I'd like to, respectfully, show my support for moving "your playing" out from underneath another section.

This too!

20202020.

[Pollyanna]

If we ever redesign this forum? Sure.

Will we ever redesign this forum? Not likely.

I think this is the crux of the issue, though.

This thread now fits nicely under Drummerworld News - the news is that it's unlikely that the forum will be redesigned. While I find it weird that Your Playing isn't a top level item, I've seen drum forums where there isn't a section to post playing at all.

[insert illegal smiley]

[DogBreath]

I think the hardest thing to remember about DrummerWorld when one considers its size, sophistication, and completeness, is the fact that it is all the project of one man. Bernhard created the site and this forum to express his love and appreciation of drummers, and his efforts rival and surpass similar websites that are created and maintained will the full resources of international corporations.

It is easy to look at the hard work of one person and say what you would have done differently, but it is very heartwarming to know that there are so many people who appreciate everything that Bernhard has done for us for no other reason than his desire to share his passion with the rest of the world.

As stated previously here and elsewhere, while occasional tweaks are not completely out of the question, the old adage "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" holds great sway around these parts.

Many thanks to all of you who care enough about DrummerWorld and the forum to share your thoughts.

[GetAgrippa]

Perhaps just create a thread with subcategories or treat one thread like a wiki. Work within the foundation and realm of what is already established just morph it a bit into what you suggest. That way everyone is happy.

[DogBreath]

Perhaps just create a thread with subcategories or treat one thread like a wiki. Work within the foundation and realm of what is already established just morph it a bit into what you suggest. That way everyone is happy.

Please see previous post. That way everyone is happy.

[Deltadrummer]

Pol, I think what you are looking for is a way to make the My Playing thread more popular. This is something that has crossed my mind as ell. But as DB said, as long as you have a lot of look at me posts from people who don't regularly post and then don't engage the comment people make nor thank them for it, it won't happen.

Thank you Bernard for this Fine site!!

[Pollyanna]

Yep Ken. The hard part is separating the music from the drum covers and lounge room solos. It's hard to keep tabs on the real music people are making here because in a week they are pushed on to page two by all the dull Look-At-Me stuff.

DB, if it's ever done I'd be prepared to get admin rights and shift people's posts to their proper places:

- Band recordings
- Solos and Jams
- Drum Covers
- Promotional postings (that would be for those who only post to promote)

I have all the qualifications:

- Lack of a life and spend way too much time here
- Interest
- Been database administrator in three jobs now

:)