Shine Select Custom Drums. Opinions.

[Joey182]

Hey there DW!
As most of you know I am always looking for the "next big thing". I think I just found it!
Shine drum company has accomplished themselves in the drumming industry already, and make some of the best drums I've ever heard.
I was browsing their site (http://www.shinedrums.com/ver2008/). When I saw their "Select Custom Series" set. It costs a mere 1,300$ US.
I have recently gotten a job lined up, and I will have around this amount soon.
The link for this kit is : http://www.shinedrums.com/products/selectcustom/index.htm
I will replace all heads (duh). and probably use my Pork Pie.
Whats your thoughts people??

[REIIID DOLLAZ]

looks like a great deal to me. tube lugs, vibrant sparkle finishes, and available custom stripes for 1300 seems unreal. shine always stood out to me amongst the other custom builders

[Joey182]

looks like a great deal to me. tube lugs, vibrant sparkle finishes, and available custom stripes for 1300 seems unreal. shine always stood out to me amongst the other custom builders

So you think its a go?

[REIIID DOLLAZ]

i would because those affordable, pre sized line of drums that custom companies sometimes offer usually get the axe from lack of sales. my buddy is selling his custom shine kit with similar sizes as those for 1000...

[Joey182]

i would because those affordable, pre sized line of drums that custom companies sometimes offer usually get the axe from lack of sales. my buddy is selling his custom shine kit with similar sizes as those for 1000...

Possible to send me a pic? I'm definitely interested!

[REIIID DOLLAZ]

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[Joey182]

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w118/pooperscooper45757/davesshine.jpg

there is another floor tom not pictured

Can I buy it without a snare?

[REIIID DOLLAZ]

send me any questions you have about the kit an ill ask him and get back to you as soon as i can

[Mapex----Maniac]

Not to be nosy but what job will get you 1300 bucks soon? What I'm trying to say is how long is soon and what job is lined up? Just wondering

[Joey182]

Not to be nosy but what job will get you 1300 bucks soon? What I'm trying to say is how long is soon and what job is lined up? Just wondering

I'm really good friends with the owner of a Family owned chain surf- shop.
For my 16th birthday, He said I can have a job no problem and start the next day. Every month with the hours I will be working I will get about 1,000.
I will keep the Gretsch as a gigging kit. (Maybe).

[Mapex----Maniac]

And by the way if your going to fork over 1300 you might as well look for other drum kits like.........
Gretsch renown
(used) Mapex Saturn
Tama b/b
Tama maple
Pearl masters
And others in that price range

[Mapex----Maniac]

I'm really good friends with the owner of a Family owned chain surf- shop.
For my 16th birthday, He said I can have a job no problem and start the next day. Every month with the hours I will be working I will get about 1,000.
I will keep the Gretsch as a gigging kit. (Maybe).

Wow that's great! If your getting 1000 a month then why settle for a 1300 kit, save your money and get the exact kit that you want
I would recommend a complete custom kit like a pearl masterworks, Gretsch USA, sjc, ect
The shine kit really isn't "custom" but the higher end kits of them are.
If you get 1000 a month save up for 3 or 4 months and you can get your dream kit!

[Joey182]

Wow that's great! If your getting 1000 a month then why settle for a 1300 kit, save your money and get the exact kit that you want
I would recommend a complete custom kit like a pearl masterworks, Gretsch USA, sjc, ect
The shine kit really isn't "custom" but the higher end kits of them are.
If you get 1000 a month save up for 3 or 4 months and you can get your dream kit!

Like a Precision Drum Co. Light blue acrylic with chrome bass drum hoops, and die-cast everything??
That is my dream right there!

[Mapex----Maniac]

Like a Precision Drum Co. Light blue acrylic with chrome bass drum hoops, and die-cast everything??
That is my dream right there!

Then go for it! The possibilities are endless when you can fork over 3000-4000 bucks on drum gear, but make sure that you are completely sure that you like the drums and that you would be happy with your big investment in the future, don't be upset later about not liking the sound of the drums, always try them out before you buy.

[REIIID DOLLAZ]

And by the way if your going to fork over 1300 you might as well look for other drum kits like.........
Gretsch renown
(used) Mapex Saturn
Tama b/b
Tama maple
Pearl masters
And others in that price range

nothing wrong with these kits, but i think what joey is looking for is a custom kit with a well known custom name on it, which there is nothing wrong with. i was the same way when i was younger. i absolutely love custom drums, as i own a custom kit myself, and sometimes the attention to detail and the dedication being put into "your own kit" as they build it is worth every penny. its just a piece of mind you cant get with a production line drum kit

[Joey182]

nothing wrong with these kits, but i think what joey is looking for is a custom kit with a well known custom name on it, which there is nothing wrong with. i was the same way when i was younger. i absolutely love custom drums, as i own a custom kit myself, and sometimes the attention to detail and the dedication being put into "your own kit" as they build it is worth every penny. its just a piece of mind you cant get with a production line drum kit

That is pretty much what I'm looking for!
Any word from your friend with the Shine yet?

[stavebuilder]

Word is that Shine announced that they are filing for bankruptcy and closing their doors.

[Mapex----Maniac]

Wow really? That's a pretty big blow
Well if there going bankrupt than I wouldn't buy that shine drum set(no offenseREIIID DOLLARZ) because then you cant add on if you ever want to, which I would think you probably would eventually. And by the way why get the shine kit when you can get your DREAM KIT

[Joey182]

Where did you hear about the Bankruptcy?
Precision seems more solid considering they have been around for 20+ years!
I'll just save up!

[Mapex----Maniac]

Good choice get the kit that you really want

[Joey182]

Good choice get the kit that you really want

I'm not sure about acrylic though...
May not be my sound? What do you think?

[Joey182]

Heres a link to my dream kit! It would just have Remo Pinstripes, and 2 Chrome bass drum O's, virgin bass, along with the front bass hoop to be 3 inches (Double wide).

http://precisiondrum.com/Lou_acrylic.GIF

BEAUTIFUL

[Mapex----Maniac]

I think u absolutely HAVE to try out a drum set before you buy. Do not buy something you have never heard in PERSON

[Joey182]

I think u absolutely HAVE to try out a drum set before you buy. Do not buy something you have never heard in PERSON

So where do I go to try an acrylic?
All stores are special order-only. Any suggestions?

[Mapex----Maniac]

So where do I go to try an acrylic?
All stores are special order-only. Any suggestions?

Well I'm not sure! But you could probably contact a dealer that sells acrylics near you and see if you can test one out. Not completely sure about this though.

[Joey182]

Well I'm not sure! But you could probably contact a dealer that sells acrylics near you and see if you can test one out. Not completely sure about this though.

I called Guitar Center about the ddrum Diaton acrylic (just to hear acrylic in person). They said all acrylic drums are special order and they cannot order one in unless I pay 35% up front :(.

[Mapex----Maniac]

Sorry at least see if you can get some sound files

[bobdadruma]

Most drummers that I know that have acrylic drum kits have other wood kits too.
Acrylic drums are bright and powerful sounding.

I like them but I wouldn't want to have them as my only kit either.

[Joey182]

Sorry at least see if you can get some sound files

Maybe someone playing a drum video on youtube with an acrylic?
Too bad theres all the EQing and other editing.

[Joey182]

Most drummers that I know that have acrylic drum kits have other wood kits too.
Acrylic drums are bright and powerful sounding.

I like them but I wouldn't want to have them as my only kit either.

But for my main music type (Punk- Pop). Would it be a god idea?
P.S. What did you think of the link I posted to that one kit?

[bobdadruma]

But for my main music type (Punk- Pop). Would it be a god idea?
P.S. What did you think of the link I posted to that one kit?That is a great looking kit Joey.
There will be times when you want to play a wood kit.
Bonham rarely played his acrylic kit in the studio.

[Joey182]

That is a great looking kit Joey.
There will be times when you want to play a wood kit.
Bonham rarely played his acrylic kit in the studio.

Uh-Oh! I'm scared now!
What do you think I should do?
I also heard that some Mics don't work on acrylics due to the noise level.

[bobdadruma]

Wait until you have the cash and buy an acrylic kit someday.
In the meantime you have a great kit already.

[Joey182]

Wait until you have the cash and buy an acrylic kit someday.
In the meantime you have a great kit already.

The time when I have the cash is right around the corner (4.5 months).
Not far at all.
P.S. My parents bought a second house, and it has a 500 sq. foot back house. It is going to be my personal drum house in about 2 months.
I'm sooooo happy!
I'll post some pics of it. The property is under construction, but it will be some in-the-making pics!

[REIIID DOLLAZ]

Wow really? That's a pretty big blow
Well if there going bankrupt than I wouldn't buy that shine drum set(no offenseREIIID DOLLARZ) because then you cant add on if you ever want to, which I would think you probably would eventually. And by the way why get the shine kit when you can get your DREAM KIT

hey, them going bankrupt is just another reason to get one of there kits, you might never have the chance to get your hands on one again...

[Joey182]

hey, them going bankrupt is just another reason to get one of there kits, you might never have the chance to get your hands on one again...

Thats why I just texted your friend Dave. Whats your name by the way?
Hes in the movies right now. He asked me to call him tomorrow at 4PM

[stavebuilder]

Where did you hear about the Bankruptcy?
Precision seems more solid considering they have been around for 20+ years!
I'll just save up!

A guy I know that is an NAMM said that he heard about it there.

[Andrewski]

Not the most reliable of sources, all though I'd be interested to see if any further news leaks in the future.

[Joey182]

A guy I know that is an NAMM said that he heard about it there.

If the sites still running and they are still updating, then they are a company still to me.
Any ideas for my future studio? I'll go over there, and take some pics for all of you.

[Joey182]

Not the most reliable of sources, all though I'd be interested to see if any further news leaks in the future.

I love your Pork Pie kit by the way Andrewski! GORGEOUS!

[REIIID DOLLAZ]

Thats why I just texted your friend Dave. Whats your name by the way?
Hes in the movies right now. He asked me to call him tomorrow at 4PM

my name is reid. im guessing your joey? haha

[Joey182]

my name is reid. im guessing your joey? haha

Yes thats my name (Duh!). I will call him tomorrow. Whats the time difference between Florida and Connecticut? (If there is any).

[REIIID DOLLAZ]

Yes thats my name (Duh!). I will call him tomorrow. Whats the time difference between Florida and Connecticut? (If there is any).
well right now it is 11:30 pm in ct

[Joey182]

well right now it is 11:30 pm in ct

Same here.... Guess theres no difference!

[stavebuilder]

Not the most reliable of sources, all though I'd be interested to see if any further news leaks in the future.

He is also sells shine drums in his store, take the info as you will, just passing on what I know. I have no reason not to believe him. If true, I'm sure word will spread like wildfire.

[Joey182]

He is also sells shine drums in his store, take the info as you will, just passing on what I know. I have no reason not to believe him. If true, I'm sure word will spread like wildfire.

If I was endorsed by Shine I'd be soooo Upset!

[audiotech]

If I was endorsed by Shine I'd be soooo Upset!

Actually it's the drummer that endorses the drum company after he or she is accepted by that company.

One thing about buying from any company that will no longer be in business is you may not be able to get add on drums and more so, any parts that might fail on your kit. This includes lugs, hoops and mounting hardware.

When it comes to acrylic drum kits they are very loud and sterile sounding. I never owned any but played a few over the years, in fact just a couple of months ago. It was a Tama Mirage. In my opinion, it doesn't come near to the sound of a wooden shell kit and again in my opinion, they're not very versatile.

Dennis.

[Ian]

hey, them going bankrupt is just another reason to get one of there kits, you might never have the chance to get your hands on one again...

A used one, yes, but I'd never send money to a company that is going under. If they do go bankrupt while you are awaiting product you will be out the cash and have no product.

On the acrylic note, they sound ok. They are bright and loud and they don't have the overtones or character of wood drums. The idea of some mics not working is really odd to me. I've recorded my fiberglass kit many times and it is easily as loud as acrylics and the engineer and I had no fear using $3-5,000 tube and ribbon mics.

Call around. There are many stores who stock acrylic kits from time to time. There may even be one you don't know of within an acceptable driving distance.

While I do respect your conviction in the kits you desire, many custom shop kits have lower resale value because while they are worth the cash to you, they may not be for ANYONE ELSE. Many of the things you desire are fad design elements. Deep bass drums, offset lugs, powder coated hardware, and double-wide hoops are a few things that will fall by the design wayside in a short while. I ordered a custom kit based on what I wanted at the time and I'm thrilled I've had the option of adding drums and cutting a bass drum down. In having the kit I thought I wanted I discovered it was not an optimal sounding kit for my needs.

[Joey182]

A used one, yes, but I'd never send money to a company that is going under. If they do go bankrupt while you are awaiting product you will be out the cash and have no product.

On the acrylic note, they sound ok. They are bright and loud and they don't have the overtones or character of wood drums. The idea of some mics not working is really odd to me. I've recorded my fiberglass kit many times and it is easily as loud as acrylics and the engineer and I had no fear using $3-5,000 tube and ribbon mics.

Call around. There are many stores who stock acrylic kits from time to time. There may even be one you don't know of within an acceptable driving distance.

While I do respect your conviction in the kits you desire, many custom shop kits have lower resale value because while they are worth the cash to you, they may not be for ANYONE ELSE. Many of the things you desire are fad design elements. Deep bass drums, offset lugs, powder coated hardware, and double-wide hoops are a few things that will fall by the design wayside in a short while. I ordered a custom kit based on what I wanted at the time and I'm thrilled I've had the option of adding drums and cutting a bass drum down. In having the kit I thought I wanted I discovered it was not an optimal sounding kit for my needs.

Deep bass drums are actually not something that I like for looks. I actually like the more "echoey, boomy" Sound they produce.
Offset lugs aren't something I like too much, neither is powder coated hardware. I actually only really like acrylics for their look yes, but the other stuff isn't necessary.

[Joey182]

Here's some pics of the "Drum House".
Any suggestions on what to do? I'm not going to move my stuff there for about 1-2 months.
I'm not sure how the picture of my set got into there? Ignore that one!

[Joey182]

Are you part of Shine? I ask this because you use "our", and "we" several times.
Hope so, because I would hate to see Shine go under. A REALLY good company!

----------------------Joey Lee










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[mediocrefunkybeat]

Joey, he's a spammer. Christ...

[Joey182]

Joey, he's a spammer. Christ...

Haha OK! Sorry.
-----Joey

[Cameo]

...Joey, Joey, Joey.

Got my Select Custom in Platinum finish earlier today. I'm happy with 'em.
Just have to change heads and buy some hardware, then it's all done.

[Joey182]

...Joey, Joey, Joey.

Got my Select Custom in Platinum finish earlier today. I'm happy with 'em.
Just have to change heads and buy some hardware, then it's all done.

PICTURES! I want to see how they turned out!
Also, I thought they were only in three colors?

[Cameo]

PICTURES! I want to see how they turned out!
Also, I thought they were only in three colors?
Copper Sparkle with stripe, Turquoise Sparkle with stripe and the stylish Platinum Sparkle... My weapon of choice. That is all.
I'll post a thread in the "Your gear"-section when I have time.

[Joey182]

Copper Sparkle with stripe, Turquoise Sparkle with stripe and the stylish Platinum Sparkle... My weapon of choice. That is all.
I'll post a thread in the "Your gear"-section when I have time.

I wanted the turquoise sparkle with the stripe, or the white with black stripe.

[matt986]

Hi Joey,

Congrats on getting in to the world of custom drums!! Personally, I endorse SJC custom drums out of Dudley Mass. They are great guys and the workmanship I guarantee you is better then just about anything else out there. See for your self. www.sjcdrums.com.

After the experience I had with them, I'll never buy drums from another company. Really, these guys are amazing.

[tamadrm]

Forget the Shine drums...the company is going under,check out the DRUM magazine website.Acrylic drums are pleasing to the eye but still have build problems are heavy tuff to maintain,scratch easily and have limited tuning range.Try tuning an acrylic snare up high and you WILL crack the shell.Stick with Ludwig,Tama,Pearl.DW.Custom drums historicly bring lower resale prices than their large company counterparts.Or not...try to get parts or a warranty honored a year fron now.Good luck.

Steve B
..

[steadypocket]

If they're going under, it's probably because they're buried in legal bills. There has to be plenty of lawyers suing them for making some of the most hideous finishes in the industry. Most of them are butt ugly. Saw one kit that was intentionally designed to look like mud. Hope they sound better than they look.Then again, I'm sure they sound like every other "custom" drum company that uses Keller shells.

[tamadrm]

Exactly.These "custom"drum makers just dress up Keller shells.I may be leaving some one out but i'm pretty sure only Ludwig and DW are the only US drum makers that make their own shells.

Steve B

[Joey182]

Hi Joey,

Congrats on getting in to the world of custom drums!! Personally, I endorse SJC custom drums out of Dudley Mass. They are great guys and the workmanship I guarantee you is better then just about anything else out there. See for your self. www.sjcdrums.com.

After the experience I had with them, I'll never buy drums from another company. Really, these guys are amazing.

Right now I'm stuck between
SJC (Acrylic)- blue acrylic with white hardware
Dark Horse Percussion (Maple)- 4 piece with polka dots and white hardware
TRUTH (Maple)- 3piece from a friend for 1,500
MY THREE CHOICES!
Not sure........

[KarlCrafton]

"....Right now" being the most important part of the post.

:-)

It's fun to plot, and speculate, and dream of new gear, but it amazes me that you seem to think a new kit is really going to do anything but look different than what you have now--which is a really nice kit that A LOT of people would be very happy owning as the only kit they'd ever want to buy.

I hope someday you come to your senses.
Which will probably be when you actually have to fork out the dough after working to save it up.

Live and learn I guess.

Good luck dude.

[Liam _Pearldrummer]

Shine drums are no longer a drum company :(

[Cameo]

Shine drums are no longer a drum company :(

...but still they could get me a new bass drum. Seems pretty wierd. :)

[mike.jefferson]

Hey, I play a Shine definition series kit and I now proudly endorse Shine Drums UK. Unfortunately not long after my endorsement came through I heard about Shine Drums USA closing after struggling through the recession and making the decision based on hitting their lowest figures ever. However, I can confirm that Shine Drums UK are still running strong at this present moment, but after talking to someone who works there who didn't give much away but it sounded as though as soon as they have sold off all their stock they're also finishing up...Sad times. :(

Mike

[drumerpnkrrockr6]

Right now I'm stuck between
SJC (Acrylic)- blue acrylic with white hardware
Dark Horse Percussion (Maple)- 4 piece with polka dots and white hardware
TRUTH (Maple)- 3piece from a friend for 1,500
MY THREE CHOICES!
Not sure........

Go with darkhorse... They will give you a great price for what a custom drumkit is sincerely worth, along with having superb quality. I personally don't own one, but have played them and they sound great, it's a keller shell, can't go wrong with it! I went with Phattie Custom Drums due to their unique sound they have for some reason compared to other companies that use keller shells, I was so impressed and had to go with it. The pricing is extremely fair, by saying they don't charge you to per say 'off set' your lugs, which I just laugh and bypass the companies that charge for that, makes me laugh. Just overall a fair price for a custom kit, along with great customer service, and very high craftsmanship with their kits as well.

SJC and Truth are still great companies, they over charge for sure, but if you want that SJC or Truth name all over your kit and have the cash, go for it! Those companies more so dress up their drums than treat the shells for sound, just basics with bearing edges and such, I wasn't ever impressed with them sound wise, just typical maple sounding shells.

[Joey182]

Go with darkhorse... They will give you a great price for what a custom drumkit is sincerely worth, along with having superb quality. I personally don't own one, but have played them and they sound great, it's a keller shell, can't go wrong with it! I went with Phattie Custom Drums due to their unique sound they have for some reason compared to other companies that use keller shells, I was so impressed and had to go with it. The pricing is extremely fair, by saying they don't charge you to per say 'off set' your lugs, which I just laugh and bypass the companies that charge for that, makes me laugh. Just overall a fair price for a custom kit, along with great customer service, and very high craftsmanship with their kits as well.

SJC and Truth are still great companies, they over charge for sure, but if you want that SJC or Truth name all over your kit and have the cash, go for it! Those companies more so dress up their drums than treat the shells for sound, just basics with bearing edges and such, I wasn't ever impressed with them sound wise, just typical maple sounding shells.

I'm leaning towards DHP right now... But that TRUTH is still there...
But I think I'll go to DHP because your right! They don't overprice, and off-setting is free, tube lugs are free, rims mounting is free, heads are free, so are Bass drum O's.
I saw a company that charged 35$ per O'. Could you believe that?!?