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rotodrum
06-02-2010, 10:00 PM
hi my name is Riccardo, I invite you to see my site www.rotodrum.com, I have invented a new model of drum, a new brevet..... if you want to feel it in action, you go on www.youtube.com and it looks for rotodrum 2010, hi and thank you for having read my email
Hi
Riccardo
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7877/mike1t.jpg
jayblazeff
06-02-2010, 11:05 PM
Cool looking drums, but in the youtube videos i watched, i thought they sounded a little flat, especially the floor toms.
jeffwj
06-02-2010, 11:12 PM
I think the main snare sounded the best. Is there a close up picture or video of it?
Jeff
bermuda
06-02-2010, 11:30 PM
Not so different than the Spacer drums from 15 years ago: http://members.multimania.co.uk/mdemowbray/spacer.htm
Here's mine:
http://www.bermudaschwartz.com/images/ventsnare.jpg
Bermuda
rotodrum
06-02-2010, 11:59 PM
Thanks boys,...... all made in Italy, Italian design, all aluminum, tensionrods in aerospace ergal and steel.... stems for rotokit drum Jazz keller..... ok hi Riccardo
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6663/rullo3333.jpg
rotodrum
06-03-2010, 12:02 AM
Thanks boys,...... all made in Italy, Italian design, all aluminum, tensionrods in aerospace ergal and steel.... stems for rotokit drum Jazz keller..... ok hi Riccardo
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6456/jazzmaurocon.jpg
Rotodrum, chooses to be unique... it is true... your sound your design your unique style
Migaluch
06-03-2010, 01:25 AM
Whoah those look wicked unique. How do they work? Can anyone elaborate on these drums?
bobdadruma
06-03-2010, 01:54 AM
And In need a kit like this because?
It looks like it would be a real pain in the bung hole to set up and move and such.
To many moving parts!
I didn't hear or see anything in the vids that made me want to place my order.
Its kind of like a Pearl Rhythm Traveler with spice sprinkled on it!
ANIMALBEATS
06-03-2010, 02:18 AM
Sorry man, bit flat in my opinion
GRUNTERSDAD
06-03-2010, 02:26 AM
Definitely flat or dead. The sound would not travel.
motojt
06-03-2010, 04:31 AM
From some of the pictures on the site (mic'd up), I'd guess they're designed with recording in mind. Also, you can't really tell from a recording. I'm not on the market for a new kit or anything, but I'm curious as to how they sound live.
I totally agree that they seem like they'd be a nightmare to setup. :p
rotodrum
06-03-2010, 09:58 AM
Hi boys, thanks for the answers, the whole RotodrM works with shell varying dimension through sleighs in steel, snare \ tom \ flor tom \ bass drum, the whole drum.... you possible possession 3 head for snare is possible to vary leaf and resonant and cymbals as you to have taste of your personal sound..... the rotodrum has possibility to be silencer to study me I insert rubber calibrated inside superior shell...... the rotodrum has the possibility to insert trigger for electronic plant it is your drumset it becomes everything electronic pad without climbing on head mash.... if you to have small car or you bring your drum kiy in subway you to be able to take trip without problems the whole RotodruM is similar to matrioscka... you insert all small drums in big drums.....
hi to everybody
Riccardo
you excuse my bad English I use automatic translator.... hi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOq7L4i4MYA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr0zisoaw-c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk2D-8avHGA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyMIE8_y46s
rotodrum
06-06-2010, 04:44 PM
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Questa è l'ultima costruita ... mille rulli a tutti
ciao
Riccardo
rotodrum
06-19-2010, 08:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DemUjunAL6Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzOUvyZ--cI
Sam Hare Guitar Vocal , Mattia Giallombardo drum RotodruM
rotodrum
07-15-2010, 11:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypT1Sion-3Y
new video demo RotodruM .... good video .... ciao Riccardo
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keep it simple
07-16-2010, 01:12 PM
I think the first thing is to congratulate the inventor on bringing innovation to the drum industry. I get the advantages of this system. Working on purely sympathetic resonance between two surfaces in variable proximity offers a level of control that just can't be matched with a conventional shell arrangement. For close mic PA work, this could work very well. Equally, I can see real benefit in demo studio "house kit" applications where setup time is limited and source control is a priority over individual sound.
As an acoustic proposition, I think it falls well short of the mark. The lack of complete shell severely limits sustain possibility and reduces projection. Essentially, the kit becomes an over complicated set of flats. Adjusting the distance between the two head assemblies does alter the sound, but not necessarily in a way you'd want to. I don't like the characterless nature of the product in an acoustic environment.
I believe the market for this is very limited. Maybe novelty purchace, and the two applications I mentioned above. Innovation is a great thing. I hold many patents myself (non drum related) & some of them are commercially successful, so I'm a big fan of progression. I love the saying, "the only way to predict the future is to invent it". All that said, innovation for innovation's sake is heartbreak just waiting to happen. There has to be a market demand for a product to take off and equal some sort of critical mass. Either that, or a market need is created by the invention itself. That's rare, & usually very expensive. To bring a new concept to market, you have to be a problem solver. "Give me a problem, & I'll show you a business" is my personal saying. My problem with this product is, I don't see the problem it's trying to solve.
Hissig Gompen
07-16-2010, 02:49 PM
Without checking the vids I bet this would work pretty sweet for recording extreme metal drums that will be sample replaced/blended. And they look pretty cool too.
keep it simple
07-16-2010, 03:17 PM
Without checking the vids I bet this would work pretty sweet for recording extreme metal drums that will be sample replaced/blended. And they look pretty cool too.A very good point, and one I missed in my appraisal.
rotodrum
07-31-2010, 02:03 PM
Hi, thanks for the comments, they are always constructive, now a great brand of world drum that looks for my patent ... ok is possible that the next NAMM 2011 there will be perhaps a RotodruM for the public... ok hi Riccardo
rotodrum
08-21-2010, 11:17 AM
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My endorser ....RotodruM DrumKit Jazz 10"\13"\S13"\18" ciao Riccardo
rotodrum
09-26-2010, 02:34 PM
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RotodruM professional drum .....
www.rotodrum.com
imispgh
09-30-2010, 06:58 PM
Why would you limit your site to those who only speak Italian?
caddywumpus
09-30-2010, 07:26 PM
Something nobody has touched on is the ability to switch between traditional, fast, and power depths...
If you made the shells a little more, um..."present", this might be an interesting take on the nesting kit idea. Like, if the total tom depth of a 12" tom was 6" (3" on each half), perhaps they could be close together, or even touching, to make a 12x6 tom, or adjusted to 12x7 or 12x8 "split" settings for sonic variations. Just a thought. Perhaps if THIS design takes off, you could offer that as an additional model.
The video samples make me think of a muted concert tom set. Personally, I prefer more sustain, resonance, and projection from my drums, but it's an interesting idea, for sure. I wish you luck with your design and its reception among the drum community!
rotodrum
10-25-2010, 08:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnQE_bgfO9Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRGgAtsFJMY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0AM00nN1rU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj5_V33DFC0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uff83LWLvNQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOtY1subayc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uff83LWLvNQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onZeMVuBUV4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJuLNLBywPk
Video RotodruM live .... ciao Riccardo
rotodrum
11-06-2010, 11:23 PM
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13"\16"\18"\24"\s14"
rotodrum
01-02-2011, 06:53 PM
Hi to all....... wishes of good Christmas and a good Year 2011, full of good things and so many money......
I invite you to come to see the new my site internet " www.rotodrum.com " I file photographic with + of 300 photos and so many video.. hi hi to wishes Riccardo
Les Ismore
01-02-2011, 10:45 PM
... anyway, how's this spring suspended cymbal in post #25 you guys☟
Tropellor
01-06-2011, 12:42 PM
That caught my eye as well, what's going on with that spring cymbal?
Can you adjust the spring on it!?
That'd be cool...
chaymus
01-06-2011, 04:00 PM
Riccardo,
Looks like a very interesting design. I would like to know how you keep cross-wind from outdoor concerts affecting the sound between the heads, I would expect this to add a lot of variance to the sound. I like that you can adjust the depth, have you found specific distances to be acoustically better? Also, because you lose so much air between the heads each hit, do you have to play this harder than an enclosed drum? How does this kit deal with sympathetic resonance?
Really like the clean attack.
rotodrum
01-07-2011, 11:36 AM
Hi, thanks for the beautiful question...... the sound of the RotodruM is very similar to a standard drums..... the transmission from the beating head to the resonant head is through vibration of air and the sound of the drum it is very good.... I invite you and to feel the video of professionals that you/they use RotodruM.... it is a lot of good person and professional.
Thank you for having written to me, hi Riccardo
you come and to see the new site www.rotodrum.com a lot of photos and link video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=email&v=194VPv4HT1M&gl=IT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWQ6uizwHNY&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofai8K_EuaU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHaM2yHQfns&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oadJJwD0IEU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Riccardo,
Looks like a very interesting design. I would like to know how you keep cross-wind from outdoor concerts affecting the sound between the heads, I would expect this to add a lot of variance to the sound. I like that you can adjust the depth, have you found specific distances to be acoustically better? Also, because you lose so much air between the heads each hit, do you have to play this harder than an enclosed drum? How does this kit deal with sympathetic resonance?
Really like the clean attack.
rotodrum
02-14-2011, 09:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LfprkCIohY&feature=player_embedded
Bruce Turri new endorser RotodruM .....
Musikmesse 2011 6\9- 04 Frankfurt Pad 03 Stand G 63 . ciao Riccardo
rotodrum
02-26-2011, 09:49 AM
Site english ... http://www.rotodrum.com/indexING.html
ciao Riccardo
Tropellor
02-27-2011, 12:46 PM
... anyway, how's this spring suspended cymbal in post #25 you guys☟
Seriously - what's with that spring cymbal thing? How is it mounted, what does it sound like?
It's bloody weird.
Sonorforce3007user
02-27-2011, 01:00 PM
You may as well just take the bottom shells off. A good idea would be to do what you did, just get some different length shells that you can slot in the middle and then you could sell them seperately so that people can choose what length they want their shells to be and can change it if they want. Also it would look and sound a lot more how a drum should look and sound because it would have a whole shell.
rotodrum
03-02-2011, 09:40 PM
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/6264/cerchiobub01.jpg
hoop bubinga ... good sound .. ciao ciao Riccardo
rotodrum
06-23-2011, 06:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMXUhAp71xs
Ciao Sound in recording studio ..... ciao Riccardo
keep it simple
06-23-2011, 07:08 PM
I like the balls in the snare. That makes for an interesting alternative sound palate. I also thought the overall drum sound was quite good, although it's clear a fair bit of EQ was applied. Anyhow, I still maintain this is a good tool for many studio applications. Good luck!
slingerlandfreak
06-23-2011, 11:15 PM
Nice work Riccardo, i wish all the best with your working on other concept of drums!
rotodrum
06-24-2011, 06:57 PM
Hey Guys! Thanks because you talk about RotodruM, I am proud because it means
that you appreciate the project. I thank especially "keep it simple" for his
interventions and questions, but the sound of the last recording posted is
exactly the sound without any equalization, I send you a link to a live movie
done with the Zoom Q3 and therefore absolutely real, no intervention of any
kind. I apologize for my bad English, I help me with an automatic translator
and I'm sorry because I wish I could explain better. If someone would like to
speak with me directly my email is info@rotodrum.com, I hope you will soon test
the battery in person, I'm working for a distributor for the States. Let's keep
in touch, all the best to all of you! Riccardo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahU9kIabZXI
Sound ZOOM Q3 hd stop ....Natural acustic Sound RotodruM
ROTODRUM ; THREE DRUMS IN ONE
Remember that when buying a RotodruM you do not by one drum, but three!
The quality of materials used and the fact that RotodruM are handmade, one by one, make it a "Ferrari" of the drums.
THE ANSWER TO ALL DRUMMERS PROBLEMS
It can not be compared to another drum, it Is the first to offer so many solutions.
INNOVATION:
1) as a traditional drum -> infinity of sounds (it HAS already made a big difference and makes it a "universal" drum)
2) like a mute drum -> only one move to solve the problems of coexistence that may be due to the study of the instrument at home. (In five minutes, just the mere inclusion of dumb).
3) as a drum machine -> same rebounds, same heads, same ergonomics of your normally used drum. (Minimum use of time to change your drum in another instrument, maintaining the same "base").
4) portability is another unique feature of RotodruM. The absence of shells and the possibility of including a semi-shell inside the other, once placed in its custody, it makes sure the drum takes up very little space: an entire set can take the same place of a traditional bass drum.
5) the use of high technology and high quality materials processed with modern techniques.
THE ADVANTAGES:
1) ease of microphones, impossible with other drums thanks to the construction peculiarities of RotodruM.
THE UNIQUE:
the ability to assemble the drums with more heads obtaining sounds hitherto impossible to achieve. These are all features that can satisfy the needs of drummers with a single purchase, which only this drum can do.
A drum changing without having to buy anything else: imagination and the desire to experiment will give enormous satisfaction to the drummer who can create an infinite range of sounds. Everybody will claim that their uniqueness IS as unique as RotodruM.
They literally sound amazing. Wheres the pricelist lol
keep it simple
06-25-2011, 01:08 PM
Hey Riccardo,
I applaud your work. I know just how difficult it is to develop a new product in the drum industry, & especially one that goes against the accepted thinking of the drumming community. I completely buy into the principal of sympathetic resonance, it's how many instruments produce their sound, and exactly how we humans hear & appreciate sound. I use the same principal in my latest development, & it has much merit, but also challenges.
Drummers are used to a sound being shaped by the shell itself. To some (including me), the sound of your kit may be a bit sterile, but that's a very personal perspective. The shell adds it's own character & focusses the head response, but this brings many overtones to the party. Some overtones are good, & give the drum warmth & depth, some are bad, & detract from the fundamental head resonance tone. Your drums concentrate on the head resonance fundamental. This is great for obtaining a clean tone with great control. That's why I believe it makes a superb basis for studio work. It provides a clean foundation for building sounds from the desk, & that makes it a versatile tool in multi genre recording situations such as a studio house kit. It's also great through a PA for the same reason, & finally, there's drummers out there who like that clean fundamental tone as the basis for their sound. It has visual & practical advantages too, so I think it's a great product with wide appeal. The challenge is getting drummers to look past the accepted view of sound & aesthetic, & actually think what they could do with your kit.
Personally, I like a strong shell tone, even with the challenges that presents. Also, your kit might struggle against the attack & projection offered by a standard kit construction in a loud unmic'd setting, but that's fine. My advice is to avoid swimming against the tide. Trying to present your kit as being ideal for every player & every situation will akways invite counter views. Those views, although valid, detract from the excellent advantages you have to offer. Play to the strengths of the product, & target applications where the advantages are clearly appreciated.
It's a tough journey you're on, & you should be congratulated for introducing innovation into a very conservative market. Most major drum companies are focussed much more on their latest range of finishes, or just another marketing angle for essentially the same product that's existed for decades. Innovation is to be encouraged, that's how the industry moves forward, & to the benefit of all.
Keep at it Riccardo, you're doing a great job, & I'm a fan. Andy.
rotodrum
08-10-2011, 06:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO9B0trJA2A
rotodrum
12-07-2012, 06:40 PM
www.rotodrum.com ,
Hello guys, how are you, sorry my hiding ..... I wanted to share that make you want to try RotodruM I'm an exhibitor at the 2013 NAMM booth 2364 Hall D from 24 \ 27 January will present the world premiere of the series RotodruM Avantime III further enhanced .... I have two free tickets to enter ..... hello all Riccardo
rotodrum
12-07-2012, 06:47 PM
www.rotodrum.com ,
Hello guys, how are you, sorry my hiding ..... I wanted to share that make you want to try RotodruM I'm an exhibitor at the 2013 NAMM booth 2364 Hall D from 24 \ 27 January will present the world premiere of the series RotodruM Avantime III further enhanced .... I have two free tickets to enter ..... hello all Riccardo
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