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Funky CrÍpe
04-24-2010, 01:34 AM
Has anyone tried or bought these kits? Look really nice, seem to be reasonably priced too...i have my eyes on this bad boy!

Any reviews??

GRUNTERSDAD
04-24-2010, 03:27 AM
Who are they made by??? Hard Bop??

Steamer
04-24-2010, 07:28 AM
Looks like they are using all Peace sourced hardware including the cresent tom rim with the possible exception only of the tom mount on the bass drum {?} ........

bobdadruma
04-24-2010, 02:11 PM
That looks like a nice little kit Bos,
The tom mount is interesting. Kind of a combination of new and old designs.
I like the lugs also.
What other finishes do they offer?

Funky CrÍpe
04-24-2010, 03:42 PM
Looks like they are using all Peace sourced hardware including the cresent tom rim with the possible exception only of the tom mount on the bass drum {?} ........

pitty there are no sound clips, interesting look, they have a few nice finishes, african mahogany and such. They buy their shells from joshua tree percussion....

huh, maybe they are copying their kits? Peace drums seem to sound good anyway, if they are copying the sound, they should be good kits

Drums&Beer
04-24-2010, 04:08 PM
Bos,

Be sure to read a bit about Rob Schuh before considering purchasing from him. Here's link to a past thread about Hard Bop Drums.

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53132&highlight=rob+schuh

Unfortunately, what PureRockFury states is not in anyway untrue or a stretch of the truth.

Anyway, to make a very long story short I made the mistake of buying a stave kit from him a few years back, and getting the drums was like pulling teeth. The shells are very nice, they are made by Joshua Tree Percussion, however dealing with Rob was an absolute nightmare. When the drums did arrive they were 6 months late and problematic to say the least.

Funky CrÍpe
04-24-2010, 04:37 PM
Bos,

Be sure to read a bit about Rob Schuh before considering purchasing from him. Here's link to a past thread about Hard Bop Drums.

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53132&highlight=rob+schuh

Unfortunately, what PureRockFury states is not in anyway untrue or a stretch of the truth.

Anyway, to make a very long story short I made the mistake of buying a stave kit from him a few years back, and getting the drums was like pulling teeth. The shells are very nice, they are made by Joshua Tree Percussion, however dealing with Rob was an absolute nightmare. When the drums did arrive they were 6 months late and problematic to say the least.

Thanks D&B....i actually remember reading that thread! I just was'nt paying too much attention when i did last year. Sounds like a real stand up guy!

Those drums are beautiful, I'll see what kind of response i get, but given that info, I doubt i will deal with the man, even though they seem to be reasonably priced.....i'll try and look up on him a bit more, thank you.


Wow, i just read up on him, he is quite a shady character.....quite nice drums though, doubt i want to trade with him, i have not met or spoken to him, but i already don't trust him....bad start

Deathmetalconga
04-24-2010, 08:16 PM
Thanks D&B....i actually remember reading that thread! I just was'nt paying too much attention when i did last year. Sounds like a real stand up guy!

Those drums are beautiful, I'll see what kind of response i get, but given that info, I doubt i will deal with the man, even though they seem to be reasonably priced.....i'll try and look up on him a bit more, thank you.


Wow, i just read up on him, he is quite a shady character.....quite nice drums though, doubt i want to trade with him, i have not met or spoken to him, but i already don't trust him....bad start

So, what service does Hard Bop Drums do? Are they a shell finisher?

Drums&Beer
04-24-2010, 10:40 PM
So, what service does Hard Bop Drums do? Are they a shell finisher?

Basically yes. Although when I first ordered my drums from him he was very ambiguous about what part he "actually" played in the process.

Here's a bit about my experience with Rob.

The kit I ordered is African Mahogany stave. They sound great but I had to do A LOT of work to get them to that point. Originally I ordered them with Ego Well Rounded lugs which are single hole lugs, simple but elegant. Later I was told by Rob that Ego's QC had been questionable and he didn't have any in stock that he was willing to use. This was after I had been waiting 11 months for a kit.

Ultimately I settled for two hole tube lugs. The drums showed up a month later with half the tube lugs crooked on all the shells. All the original holes drilled for the Ego's were clean and perfectly spaced the second holes were misaligned, and some of them were down right botched, drilled using a dull bit most likely. One can only deduct from this that Joshua Tree drilled the originals and Rob did the second set, probably after his invoices to Ego had gone unpaid, and me threatening for a refund.

What I got from him was not what I ordered and there was very little I could do at that point.

Anyway, Buyer beware.

JRH7
04-24-2010, 10:48 PM
I have heard similar stories. I would not buy from Hard Bop if it were me.

J.

rschuh
02-01-2012, 01:46 AM
Bos,

Be sure to read a bit about Rob Schuh before considering purchasing from him. Here's link to a past thread about Hard Bop Drums.

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53132&highlight=rob+schuh

Unfortunately, what PureRockFury states is not in anyway untrue or a stretch of the truth.

Anyway, to make a very long story short I made the mistake of buying a stave kit from him a few years back, and getting the drums was like pulling teeth. The shells are very nice, they are made by Joshua Tree Percussion, however dealing with Rob was an absolute nightmare. When the drums did arrive they were 6 months late and problematic to say the least.


Great slanderous bullshit from a coward who won't even post his real name? I've had all positive comments from buyers of my snares and kits.

enforcerdrummer
02-01-2012, 02:06 AM
Great slanderous bullshit from a coward who won't even post his real name? I've had all positive comments from buyers of my snares and kits.

Yes and from this 2008 post I think you need to buy gretsch.

"Rob Schuh the owner/assembler for HardBop can be quite the moron at times. He has a LONG rap sheet that follows him throughout internet forums and Usenet Newsgroups. I see him bitch about customers in newsgroups all the time.

I would pick someone else.

Especially when someone goes online and curses. Great way to do business. :)

Soupy
02-01-2012, 04:27 AM
Seems a fitting time to link this:

http://www.ghostnote.net/vbforum/showthread.php?40885-How-To-Run-A-quot-Successful-quot-Drum-Company