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MadJazz
11-08-2009, 08:34 PM
I'm looking for some interesting single-double stroke patterns between hi hat and snare or ride and snare, where the left hand can play a strong backbeat (L). I came up with these:
Paradiddle
Rlrr Lrll
Inverted paradiddle
Rllr Lrrl
Quintuplet
Rllrr Lrrll
Double paradiddle
Rlrlrr Lrlrll
Inverted double paradiddle
Rlrrlr Lrllrl
Swing with triplet feel
R-r R-r R-r R-r
- l - L- l - l - L- l
The right hand plays triplets (1-3), the left hand plays every other note of the triplet (2-1-3).
Shuffle 1
R-r R-r R-r R-r
- l - - l - L- l - l -
Shuffle 2
R-r R-r R-r R-r
- l l - l - L- l - l l
Those last two look more complicated than they are. The left fiils in the spaces between what the right is playing except for the backbeat where both hands land together.
Do you have any other ideas?
Another question is what are interesting bass drum lines to play underneath?
jeffwj
11-08-2009, 09:02 PM
Casey Scheurell did an excellent job compiling sticking exercises and applying them to drum set in his book.
http://www.steveweissmusic.com/product/1106724/drum-set-methods-cd
Jeff
matt949
11-08-2009, 09:05 PM
right now one of my favorites like this to play is just an inverted paradiddle then a paradiddle
so
r l l r L r l l
(i keep editing! i usually start with just bass drum on the two right handed hits of the inverted but play around with it)
give it a slight swing and thats a pretty tasty groove
MadJazz
11-08-2009, 09:11 PM
Don't you love these patterns :) Whenever I find a juicy lick, I can groove all day long.
The only trouble I sometimes have is finding the correct height and angle for the hi hat and snare. They also rock on a cowbell (try the quintuplet up-speed)
LinearDrummer
11-09-2009, 05:52 PM
Here one I use...inspired from Neil.
RLRRLRRLRLRRLRRL
LinearDrummer
11-09-2009, 05:58 PM
Another question is what are interesting bass drum lines to play underneath?
Bass Drum can
-Shadow right hand
-Play quarter note pulse
-Play ostinato...samba, baio etc..
A more advanced way is to read a line syncopation underneath it...this is a tough one for me.
MadJazz
11-09-2009, 06:32 PM
Very cool, keep it coming.
Can you give an example of bass drum syncopation?
Toby_Jackson
11-10-2009, 04:12 AM
Very cool, keep it coming.
Can you give an example of bass drum syncopation?
Well, most people buy the book "Syncopation" and read the lines out of it.
Just messin' with ya tho, it's very simple to come up with your own. You can start by creating any 1 bar line that emphasizes a) two or more upbeats in a row or b) an upbeat without a following downbeat resolution. Examples:
a) ONE and TWO AND three AND FOUR and
a) one AND two AND three AND FOUR and
b) ONE and TWO AND three and FOUR and
b) ONE AND two and three AND FOUR and
Then throw some of your patterns on top. Eventually move the concept to 16th-note upbeats. Rinse and repeat for 32nds when you're ready for them.
I like
RLRRLLRRLRLLRRLL
It's in one of Streetlight Manifesto's songs off of their latest album
wy yung
11-10-2009, 06:12 AM
I don't have any favorites. If people wish to begin exploring sticking patterns between hi hat and snare, I recommend Future Sounds by David Garibaldi.
MadJazz
11-11-2009, 12:18 AM
There are actually four useful displacements of a double paradiddle:
RLRLRR LRLRLL
RLRRLR LRLLRL
RLRLLR LRLRRL
RLLRLR LRRLRL
LinearDrummer
11-11-2009, 04:32 AM
There are actually four useful displacements of a double paradiddle:
RLRLRR LRLRLL
With a slight variation becomes a very common 6/8 groove
RLRLRRLRLRLR
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